Best Sukkah?

[aygart]

see piskei tshuvos siman 632 somewhere on seif aleph

Don't see anyhting there of relevance.

[aygart]

This whole discussion is really not so relevant. There is no dofen akuma at the top at all. It goes less than 4 tfachim out of schach pasul and can likely even eat under it. The question I still need to review is because the roof continues past. Need to go over that aspect.

[moko]

This whole discussion is really not so relevant. There is no dofen akuma at the top at all. It goes less than 4 tfachim out of schach pasul and can likely even eat under it. The question I still need to review is because the roof continues past. Need to go over that aspect.

the mg"a brings down to say the din of pesel hayoitzei lechumra. So if the schsch pasul is sticking inide more than 3 tfachim and you have a Shiur of schach pass outside, it might pasul the whole sukkah

[churnbabychurn]

This whole discussion is really not so relevant. There is no dofen akuma at the top at all. It goes less than 4 tfachim out of schach pasul and can likely even eat under it. The question I still need to review is because the roof continues past. Need to go over that aspect.

ok with a wall/seats not reaching the ground?

[AsherO]

What about Ruach Metzuyah, won't those panels fall right over?

[aygart]

the mg"a brings down to say the din of pesel hayoitzei lechumra. So if the schsch pasul is sticking inide more than 3 tfachim and you have a Shiur of schach pass outside, it might pasul the whole sukkah

I don't think it is 3 in even according to RCN. Definitely not according to larger opinions.

[aygart]

ok with a wall/seats not reaching the ground?

They do reach the ground?

[aygart]

What about Ruach Metzuyah, won't those panels fall right over?

They are hinged to each other in 2 gams. Also clamped. The beams are notched and hold the doors.

[churnbabychurn]

They do reach the ground?

No that's a separate panel, not in line of or part of the seats

[Tim Doodle]

Don't see anyhting there of relevance.

He brings machloket there in a case where you use a house wall as your third wall, with a roof protruding high above the sukka.
(dofen akuma and chavut rami together)

I thought that's what he meant here:

Well then that dofen is akum on both top and bottom.
The bottom is at the end of the vehicle, the top portion of the dofen is pulled in, and then it pops out again.

The poskim talk about the porch walls that have a lip (Israeli ones, bottom concrete wall, top bars), this case seems extreme.


Eta, there is definitely a space btwn seats and roof. So we do have the gud/akum combo. Fun

[aygart]

He brings machloket there in a case where you use a house wall as your third wall, with a roof protruding high above the sukka.
(dofen akuma and chavut rami together)

I thought that's what he meant here:

That is not the case here

[aygart]

No that's a separate panel, not in line of or part of the seats

So what

[churnbabychurn]

So what

If it's not lovud, how is it a wall??

[aygart]

If it's not lovud, how is it a wall??

I totally don't understand your question

[churnbabychurn]

@aygart, see here and the comments. All Israeli poskim are busy with this. The primary shaila is the 7*7, but you will find as part of the discussion in cases where there is only 10 hight betziruf the bottom wall.

http://din.org.il/2017/09/24/מעקה-המרפסת-האם-מצטרף-לשיעור-הכשר-סוכה/

[churnbabychurn]

I totally don't understand your question

So strange. What is complicated about a wall Tha starts in point a, then bends outwards, has a ledge, and then continues upwards again??

Are you familiar with a chakak? Where the wall of a house is less than 10, and the chakak is mashlim, cant have a 3 separation.

[aygart]

So strange. What is complicated about a wall Tha starts in point a, then bends outwards, has a ledge, and then continues upwards again??

Are you familiar with a chakak? Where the wall of a house is less than 10, and the chakak is mashlim, cant have a 3 separation.

But here it is not being mashlim

[churnbabychurn]

But here it is not being mashlim

But gediyim are bokea

[aygart]

But gediyim are bokea

No they are not. It is filled.

[churnbabychurn]

No they are not. It is filled.

No it's not filled under the seats