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Wood
Pros: Cheap
         Easy to change shape or size as your needs for space change
         DIY - most people would be able to build it from scratch or make modifications (e.g. add windows)
         Can be converted to chazzon ish (replace metal screws with peg screws)
         Can integrate a schlock to the structure
Cons: Heavy, Can warp over time. (note: if you use enough fasteners and are also careful to assemble it balanced this can be minimized)
         Needs lots of storage space

Fiberglass
Pros: Easy Setup (on level ground)
         Length/width is reconfigurable (you just need to buy a few 2x4 beams if you change layout)
Cons: Expensive
         Greenhouse effect on hot days (need to budget for several open/shut windows)
         Connection threads can become bent even with proper storage (need to budget for the odd panel replacement here and there)
         Can Crack or Break

Canvas
Pros: Setup in minutes
Cons: Not accepted by all poskim
         Poor protection from cold Weather
         Wind Can be bothersome.


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Re: Best Sukkah?
« Reply #120 on: October 06, 2014, 01:26:37 PM »
I hate Chabad? I dont hate any jew! Me neither dont sleep in Sukkah only first night, cuz i want to have a simchas yom yov.
Can i invite you to my indoor sukkah for a chal hamoad day? I have a16x28 indoor sukkah and a 14 feet high roof (schach)
What's the difference halachikally for sleeping in the sukkah the first night vs. the other nights? (CMIIW, but I don't think there is one)
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Re: Best Sukkah?
« Reply #121 on: October 06, 2014, 01:29:16 PM »
There are plenty of companies that do it, GIYF. I looked into it briefly when 2 of the houses we were looking at came with a pool (why would anyone in YYZ have an outdoor pool?)
Did you get a quote?
How does a retractable roof deal with the snow issue?
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Re: Best Sukkah?
« Reply #122 on: October 06, 2014, 01:29:24 PM »
Wow. How much does a 16x28 retractable roof cost?
Was included in building the house. I would guess about 15-25k

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Re: Best Sukkah?
« Reply #123 on: October 06, 2014, 01:38:55 PM »
With wheels on 3 tracks and a chain. Some people even have it with air they just push a button and the roof opens. I never had any problems.
How does it retract anyway?
Never has issues with snow buildup?

OT, but it would be really cool to build a pool with a retractable roof.

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Re: Best Sukkah?
« Reply #124 on: October 06, 2014, 01:39:43 PM »
Did you get a quote?
How does a retractable roof deal with the snow issue?
Never got that far (my wife thinks it's not safe to have a pool), but it won't be cheap.
They've thought of that. It's like any roof, it's a slanted roof and it is built to hold snow weight.
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Re: Best Sukkah?
« Reply #125 on: October 06, 2014, 01:45:57 PM »
Are these sukkah roofs slanted as well?
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Re: Best Sukkah?
« Reply #126 on: October 06, 2014, 01:49:24 PM »
Are these sukkah roofs slanted as well?
Yes.

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Re: Best Sukkah?
« Reply #127 on: October 06, 2014, 01:49:58 PM »
Cool, anyone want to upload some pics?
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Re: Best Sukkah?
« Reply #128 on: October 06, 2014, 01:52:54 PM »
Cool, anyone want to upload some pics?
Quick Google search brings up this.

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Re: Best Sukkah?
« Reply #129 on: October 06, 2014, 01:53:00 PM »
In Chabad where machine Matzohs and sleeping indoor is not a problem, you cant complain ;)
Funny you mentioned 2 areas where Chabad is more extreme than everyone else.
On Sukkos Chabad are the only ones that sit in the Sukkah when it rains and Pesach Chabad has the biggest Chumros with most Lubavitchers not eating ANYTHIng from outside the house...

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Re: Best Sukkah?
« Reply #130 on: October 06, 2014, 01:55:31 PM »
With wheels on 3 tracks and a chain. Some people even have it with air they just push a button and the roof opens. I never had any problems.
They even have some kind of system that you can use on YT with the push of a button. I think it's quite expensive though.

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Re: Best Sukkah?
« Reply #131 on: October 06, 2014, 02:00:11 PM »
They even have some kind of system that you can use on YT with the push of a button. I think it's quite expensive though.
Thats what i was refering ro

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Re: Best Sukkah?
« Reply #132 on: October 06, 2014, 02:01:05 PM »
Cool, anyone want to upload some pics?
many years ago we had a retractable sheet of fiberglass on wheels and a track. It was on a slant and slid down on to a wooden frame attached to the house..
We had a drop ceiling all year.

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Re: Best Sukkah?
« Reply #133 on: October 06, 2014, 02:13:40 PM »
Are these sukkah roofs slanted as well?
I know of one really large regular sukkah (ie not in a house) that has a slanted schach roof - though the degree of incline is probably much less steep than a real roof.
Quick Google search brings up this.
The slant on that is pretty extreme, and probably produces a much smaller footprint within the room that's usable for sukkah than what you see in the opening. Is that how most of them are set up?

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Re: Best Sukkah?
« Reply #134 on: October 06, 2014, 02:14:56 PM »
As my father is in the construction line in upstate NY ill try summing this up

20 years ago it it was very popular to put in a movable roof there, was a guy by the name Paul from New Sqwer that had a kit with a steel track that would move a big roof,
now days most houses are installing skylight or like skylight domes the organelle manufacture was insula-dome (http://www.insula-dome.com/) that went out of business and now there are 2 frum guys competing for the market


http://www.skyviewskylight.com/
http://www.skylightspecialist.net/

They are not cheep at all

And the air powered opener that can be used on shabbos costs about 6K

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Re: Best Sukkah?
« Reply #136 on: October 06, 2014, 02:25:36 PM »
As my father is in the construction line in upstate NY ill try summing this up

20 years ago it it was very popular to put in a movable roof there, was a guy by the name Paul from New Sqwer that had a kit with a steel track that would move a big roof,
now days most houses are installing skylight or like skylight domes the organelle manufacture was insula-dome (http://www.insula-dome.com/) that went out of business and now there are 2 frum guys competing for the market


http://www.skyviewskylight.com/
http://www.skylightspecialist.net/

They are not cheep at all

And the air powered opener that can be used on shabbos costs about 6K

It is 6k total (complete for skylight and air powered opened) including installation?  If so, considering the prices of some sukkahs these days, it might just be worth it.
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« Reply #137 on: October 06, 2014, 02:59:00 PM »
It is 6k total (complete for skylight and air powered opened) including installation?  If so, considering the prices of some sukkahs these days, it might just be worth it.


no only opener.

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Re: Best Sukkah?
« Reply #138 on: October 06, 2014, 03:00:55 PM »
Seems like a really expensive proposition for 1 week out of the year.  Guess that's why I've never seen one.

Neat concept, even though it totally feels like gaming the system.  If Sukkos is in the fall so that the goyim won't say we're doing it for our enjoyment then how does this help?

Not that I'm one to talk about gaming systems.
But the better response would have been not to throw stones in glass houses :)
Which in this case, is not just figurative, but literal ;)
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Re: Best Sukkah?
« Reply #139 on: October 06, 2014, 03:03:41 PM »

no only opener.

What is the total average cost including install?
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