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Re: Once again El-Al has their annual 7 hour delay to tlv...
« Reply #20 on: August 15, 2018, 01:08:18 PM »
is JFK better?

Yes. Vast majority of Newark delays are due to aircraft unavailability (until recently, they flew the 777 on that route) and it was many times switched to a deferent route, say to London, and whatever passengers that could be stuffed onto the JFK flight got that, and the rest waited a few hours. However, the JFK route is usually served by the 747, which is less likely to be switched to a different route.
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Re: Once again El-Al has their annual 7 hour delay to tlv...
« Reply #21 on: August 15, 2018, 02:55:25 PM »
Was in JFK two weeks ago. Major delays. Delta had drinks and snacks by every gate.


https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta-air-lines-skymiles/1830868-flight-delayed-snacks-gate-new.html


But some airlines do stuff just for the PR - like VS started now doing for the LHR Customs delay https://blog.virginatlantic.com/virgin-atlantic-calls-action-reduce-immigration-queues-london-heathrow/

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Re: Once again El-Al has their annual 7 hour delay to tlv...
« Reply #22 on: August 15, 2018, 05:09:54 PM »
Annual delay?

Don't they have two flights daily on this route?

If there's only a delay like this once annually and they must be doing something right.
My mistake take out the annual and put the daily routine.
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Re: Once again El-Al has their annual 7 hour delay to tlv...
« Reply #23 on: August 16, 2018, 10:07:48 AM »
Convenient the delays are always 7 hours but the Israeli compensation kicks in at 8 hours.

Israel ought to amend the law to have a sliding scale for compensation, as opposed to it being all or nothing at 8 hrs.

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Re: Once again El-Al has their annual 7 hour delay to tlv...
« Reply #24 on: August 16, 2018, 12:57:48 PM »
Convenient the delays are always 7 hours but the Israeli compensation kicks in at 8 hours.

Israel ought to amend the law to have a sliding scale for compensation, as opposed to it being all or nothing at 8 hrs.


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Re: Once again El-Al has their annual 7 hour delay to tlv...
« Reply #25 on: August 16, 2018, 01:24:11 PM »
Though, since I don't see any seals on the boxes, this might be almost like the regular ELAL meals. Potentially kosher, but with issues due to lack of supervision after manufacturing.

-1. You can always be certain of which Kosher pizza store its from from the layer of grease on top.

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Re: Once again El-Al has their annual 7 hour delay to tlv...
« Reply #26 on: August 16, 2018, 01:27:03 PM »
-1. You can always be certain of which Kosher pizza store its from from the layer of grease on top.

But who tells you that the delivery guy didn't switch the content on the way?

It's a similar problem as the regular meals with ELAL, you know where it came from, but not what happened to it on its way to you.
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Re: Once again El-Al has their annual 7 hour delay to tlv...
« Reply #27 on: August 16, 2018, 01:28:27 PM »
But who tells you that the delivery guy didn't switch the content on the way?
Doesn't that apply only for meat?

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Re: Once again El-Al has their annual 7 hour delay to tlv...
« Reply #28 on: August 16, 2018, 01:36:50 PM »
But who tells you that the delivery guy didn't switch the content on the way?

It's a similar problem as the regular meals with ELAL, you know where it came from, but not what happened to it on its way to you.
Many pizza shops that I've been to put a seal on the box

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Re: Once again El-Al has their annual 7 hour delay to tlv...
« Reply #29 on: August 16, 2018, 01:46:36 PM »
Doesn't that apply only for meat?

Already answered:

Source? Definitely not the SA which says that gevina needs one seal.

Many pizza shops that I've been to put a seal on the box
Indeed. As they should.

Yet the Pizza boxes in the picture posted don't seem to have seals on them.
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Re: Once again El-Al has their annual 7 hour delay to tlv...
« Reply #30 on: August 16, 2018, 01:48:11 PM »
Already answered:
Indeed. As they should.

Yet the Pizza boxes in the picture posted don't seem to have seals on them.
It's not clear but to me it looks like they do

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Re: Once again El-Al has their annual 7 hour delay to tlv...
« Reply #31 on: August 16, 2018, 01:52:27 PM »
Already answered:
Indeed. As they should.

Yet the Pizza boxes in the picture posted don't seem to have seals on them.
If you look closely, it looks like there is a piece of tape on the front.
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Re: Once again El-Al has their annual 7 hour delay to tlv...
« Reply #32 on: August 16, 2018, 01:53:11 PM »
It's not clear but to me it looks like they do

I don't know where you see that, but the easiest thing would be to ask the OP @myi
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Re: Once again El-Al has their annual 7 hour delay to tlv...
« Reply #33 on: August 16, 2018, 01:58:36 PM »
But who tells you that the delivery guy didn't switch the content on the way?

This is peak DDF. I make an obviously absurd joke about Kosher pizza stores having unique grease patterns, and the response is "what are the halachic implications in the instance the delivery guy switched out the pizza but somehow kept the same Kosher pizza store grease pattern?"

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Re: Once again El-Al has their annual 7 hour delay to tlv...
« Reply #34 on: August 16, 2018, 02:02:20 PM »
This is peak DDF. I make an obviously absurd joke about Kosher pizza stores having unique grease patterns, and the response is "what are the halachic implications in the instance the delivery guy switched out the pizza but somehow kept the same Kosher pizza store grease pattern?"
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There are no unique grease patterns. It's all soaked with grease!

And to the point of this post, I refer you to @aygart's signature line.
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Re: Once again El-Al has their annual 7 hour delay to tlv...
« Reply #35 on: August 16, 2018, 02:09:57 PM »
They do look like they have tape on them. Without that I don't even see how it would come down to a question of seals. How would you know where it supposedly came from anyhow? From ElAl? Ar you allowed to believe them at all? A seal is for when you know it was sent from a kosher place and the only question is if it was switched. Over here you would not even know where it was sent from.
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Re: Once again El-Al has their annual 7 hour delay to tlv...
« Reply #36 on: August 16, 2018, 02:38:30 PM »
They do look like they have tape on them. Without that I don't even see how it would come down to a question of seals. How would you know where it supposedly came from anyhow? From ElAl? Ar you allowed to believe them at all? A seal is for when you know it was sent from a kosher place and the only question is if it was switched. Over here you would not even know where it was sent from.
Unless it says on the tape.

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Re: Once again El-Al has their annual 7 hour delay to tlv...
« Reply #37 on: August 16, 2018, 02:45:55 PM »
Unless it says on the tape.
I think you missed the words "without that"
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Re: Once again El-Al has their annual 7 hour delay to tlv...
« Reply #38 on: August 16, 2018, 04:58:35 PM »
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There are no unique grease patterns. It's all soaked with grease!

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Re: Once again El-Al has their annual 7 hour delay to tlv...
« Reply #39 on: August 19, 2018, 05:35:27 PM »
United 84 yesterday had a massive delay forcing it to take off about 1am. At that point, they needed to take the pilots from flight 90 to operate the flight, causing UA 90 to be delayed a couple of hours until another crew arrived. When the new pilots arrived, everyone boarded and by the time they were ready to close the doors, the in-flight crew claimed they missed the deadline by about a minute (for maximum work time) and they could not take off. After a long fight with the ground staff (who claimed they should continue flight as planned), they needed to deplane (at about 4am) just to sleep in chairs (even the lounge was closed) until they can get the flight staffed at 8:30am (which eventually took off about 9:45am). These 2 delays obviously caused flights 85 and 91 from TLV today to be delayed by 7-8 hours.
Btw, the above story was United, not El Al. (of course - had it been El Al, it would have been reported here at least 15 hrs ago and possibly a DDMS article too)
Just saying.....