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Gosh, is this so complicated? He was a true American hero. Period. Full stop.

RIP.

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Re: Re: RIP/BDE Master Thread
« Reply #20 on: August 26, 2018, 10:51:44 PM »
Aside from the fact that OP didn't mention politics, your comments are absurd. Since when is toeing party line anything to be proud of? Especially in recent times when toeing party line meant carrying water for a man of such vile character.

He can certainly be criticised for his politics, and he undoubtedly made mistakes. But do you know who was harshest on him for his mistakes? John McCain.

His writing about selecting Palin and defending Confederate statues (among others) shows true self reflection the likes of which are almost never seen in politics. Just look at Cruz and Rubio et al, and how they've lost any sense of dignity, courage or integrity to toe party line.

The loss of McCain is not just the loss of an American hero for his military sacrifices, but the loss of one of the few politicians who was able to show integrity and class and wasn't a complete sellout.

No, not having Trump there will not bring the country closer together. But having him there won't either. For a man who has said some of the most heartless, disgusting things, perhaps his worst was mocking McCain's capture. On what planet would you want someone who was such a disgustingly cruel turd to you attend your own funeral?

Using Trump in the same sentence as "bring the country closer" would be comical enough. It is downright absurd when you consider your comment was about a man who asked that the 2 people who crushed him in his runs for president and are polar opposites politically to eulogize him.
FTFY. sorry but it hurt my eyes... ;)
May you slide down the banister of happiness & get many splinters of success up your career.

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Re: Re: RIP/BDE Master Thread
« Reply #21 on: August 26, 2018, 11:40:46 PM »
FTFY. sorry but it hurt my eyes... ;)

Gosh, that's embarrassing. Can't even use my phone as an excuse.

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Re: Re: RIP/BDE Master Thread
« Reply #22 on: August 27, 2018, 12:44:01 AM »
disgustingly cruel turd

Another work of art by @Yehuda57

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Re: Re: RIP/BDE Master Thread
« Reply #23 on: August 27, 2018, 01:04:12 AM »
Another work of art by @Yehuda57

Interesting you would choose those words of mine to describe as art, because Microsoft's Word Art is also a disgustingly cruel turd.

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Re: Re: RIP/BDE Master Thread
« Reply #24 on: August 27, 2018, 01:09:09 AM »
Interesting you would choose those words of mine to describe as art, because Microsoft's Word Art is also a disgustingly cruel turd.

I don't get this reference. Don't gild the lily.

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Re: Re: RIP/BDE Master Thread
« Reply #25 on: August 27, 2018, 01:14:54 AM »
I don't get this reference. Don't gild the lily.

Au contraire. This may be my best post ever.

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Re: Re: RIP/BDE Master Thread
« Reply #26 on: August 27, 2018, 03:17:04 AM »
still don't get it.

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Re: Re: RIP/BDE Master Thread
« Reply #27 on: August 27, 2018, 12:55:20 PM »



His writing about selecting Palin and defending Confederate statues (among others) shows true self reflection the likes of which are almost never seen
I agree with a number of your points here but this one just shows your political bias. one can argue that these 2 things show the exact opposite.  that he was willing to sell out on beliefs and colleagues if his to receive populist acceptance.

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Re: Re: RIP/BDE Master Thread
« Reply #28 on: August 27, 2018, 01:18:13 PM »
I agree with a number of your points here but this one just shows your political bias. one can argue that these 2 things show the exact opposite.  that he was willing to sell out on beliefs and colleagues if his to receive populist acceptance.

Exactly. And he writes about those mistakes taking responsibility and with a self reflection rarely, if ever, seen in politics

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Re: Re: RIP/BDE Master Thread
« Reply #29 on: August 27, 2018, 01:24:03 PM »
Exactly. And he writes about those mistakes taking responsibility and with a self reflection rarely, if ever, seen in politics
That depends which is the one done for populist acceptance.
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Re: Re: RIP/BDE Master Thread
« Reply #30 on: August 27, 2018, 02:05:03 PM »
Exactly. And he writes about those mistakes taking responsibility and with a self reflection rarely, if ever, seen in politics
That depends which is the one done for populist acceptance.
exactly my point

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Re: RIP John McCain
« Reply #31 on: August 27, 2018, 02:24:45 PM »
You want to criticize McCain's motives. Go serve as a POW for 5+ years and get back to me. Or go hide in a corner like our coward president.
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Re: RIP John McCain
« Reply #32 on: August 27, 2018, 02:29:42 PM »
You want to criticize McCain's motives. Go serve as a POW for 5+ years and get back to me. Or go hide in a corner like our coward president.
So you can't criticize a senator because he was a POW?
If Trump would be all out mourning right now, you would call him a fraud, at least he's honest about it.
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Re: RIP John McCain
« Reply #33 on: August 27, 2018, 02:30:19 PM »
I did not like how he most recently acted. but he is definitely a real hero that gave it all for his country. RIP
#TYH

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Re: RIP John McCain
« Reply #34 on: August 27, 2018, 02:37:25 PM »
So you can't criticize him because he was a POW?
If trump would be all out mourning right now, you would call him a fraud, at least he's honest about it.
You want to criticize his decisions go right ahead. When it comes to his motives unless you walked in his shoes best you just keep your mouth shut like our coward president.
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Re: Re: RIP/BDE Master Thread
« Reply #35 on: August 27, 2018, 03:07:12 PM »
That depends which is the one done for populist acceptance.

Oh come on. Running for election vs writing a memoir or giving random interviews makes it quite obvious.


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Re: RIP John McCain
« Reply #36 on: August 27, 2018, 03:14:45 PM »
I did not like how he most recently acted. but he is definitely a real hero that gave it all for his country. RIP

+1

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Re: RIP John McCain
« Reply #37 on: August 27, 2018, 03:20:17 PM »
You want to criticize his decisions go right ahead. When it comes to his motives unless you walked in his shoes best you just keep your mouth shut like our coward president.

Sorry, but you are taking this personally. No one here is disrespecting him or not calling him a hero. John McCain did more for this country than most other politicians.

Something that bothered me the last year or two, which may have not been his motive, but did seem that way, was him trying to build a legacy. This tweet below just shows the world that America is divided and does not respect the office of the president who we elected.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">To our allies: bipartisan majorities of Americans remain pro-free trade, pro-globalization &amp; supportive of alliances based on 70 years of shared values. Americans stand with you, even if our president doesn’t.</p>&mdash; John McCain (@SenJohnMcCain) <a href="https://twitter.com/SenJohnMcCain/status/1005614491768360960?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 10, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Re: RIP John McCain
« Reply #38 on: August 27, 2018, 03:24:02 PM »
Something that bothered me the last year or two, which may have not been his motive, but did seem that way, was him trying to build a legacy. This tweet below just shows the world that America is divided and does not respect the office of the president who we elected.
Why do you feel he needs to build a legacy? He doesn't already have one? People like BO and Trump need that.
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Re: RIP John McCain
« Reply #39 on: August 27, 2018, 03:24:36 PM »
Why do you feel he needs to build a legacy? People like BO and Trump need that.

Can I ask what the point of that tweet was?