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Gosh, is this so complicated? He was a true American hero. Period. Full stop.

RIP.

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RIP John McCain
« on: August 25, 2018, 08:46:38 PM »
John McCain
« Last Edit: August 27, 2018, 02:13:24 PM by jj1000 »

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Re: Re: RIP/BDE Master Thread
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2018, 10:01:23 PM »
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: Re: RIP/BDE Master Thread
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2018, 12:14:15 AM »
A true American HERO!!!
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Re: Re: RIP/BDE Master Thread
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2018, 01:42:50 AM »

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Re: Re: RIP/BDE Master Thread
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2018, 03:46:53 AM »
A true American HERO!!!
why? he and G.W.B got us into the biggest mess in us modern history Iraq war

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Re: Re: RIP/BDE Master Thread
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2018, 05:10:38 AM »
Much respect for him, but I did fee that towards the end of his life he was more worried about making a legacy for himself than supporting his party.

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Re: Re: RIP/BDE Master Thread
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2018, 07:03:29 AM »
Much respect for him, but I did fee that towards the end of his life he was more worried about making a legacy for himself than supporting his party.

He was more loyal to his principles than to his party, an admirable trait if you ask me. You may disagree with his principles but why cast aspersions on a dead man's motives?  As far as I can tell, his stand on Obamacare and immigration fit with his long held philosophy of centrism.   

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Re: Re: RIP/BDE Master Thread
« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2018, 07:56:34 AM »
RIP.
This is not the politics thread
May you slide down the banister of happiness & get many splinters of success up your career.

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Re: Re: RIP/BDE Master Thread
« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2018, 09:05:51 AM »
why? he and G.W.B got us into the biggest mess in us modern history Iraq war
Stop drinking the Kool Aid.
Much respect for him, but I did fee that towards the end of his life he was more worried about making a legacy for himself than supporting his party.
Supporting his party??? Since when is that something to be valued??? You're supposed to vote according to your principles and for what's best for America, not for some dumb political advantages.

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Re: Re: RIP/BDE Master Thread
« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2018, 09:06:15 AM »
RIP
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Re: Re: RIP/BDE Master Thread
« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2018, 11:35:36 AM »
He was more loyal to his principles than to his party, an admirable trait if you ask me. You may disagree with his principles but why cast aspersions on a dead man's motives?  As far as I can tell, his stand on Obamacare and immigration fit with his long held philosophy of centrism.
Loyal to principles, admirable trait, his stand on Obamacare - Long held, sure:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/09/27/john-mccain-ran-repealing-obamacare-he-broke-his-promise-robert-robb-column/708114001/

I'm not taking take away from his heroism but it doesn't make him immune to political criticism.

« Last Edit: August 26, 2018, 11:44:19 AM by shapsam »

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Re: Re: RIP/BDE Master Thread
« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2018, 12:23:11 PM »
I'm not taking take away from his heroism but it doesn't make him immune to political criticism.
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Re: Re: RIP/BDE Master Thread
« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2018, 12:25:36 PM »
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Also for a goy?
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Re: Re: RIP/BDE Master Thread
« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2018, 04:23:42 PM »
He was more loyal to his principles than to his party, an admirable trait if you ask me. You may disagree with his principles but why cast aspersions on a dead man's motives?  As far as I can tell, his stand on Obamacare and immigration fit with his long held philosophy of centrism.

I agree. John was a great man, a true American hero, and the country owes him a debt it can never repay. However, I stand by what I said.
He was not and is not immune to political criticism.
Do you really think him asking trump not to attend the funeral will bring the country closer?

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Re: Re: RIP/BDE Master Thread
« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2018, 06:11:33 PM »
why? he and G.W.B got us into the biggest mess in us modern history Iraq war
Because he had more courage in his little finger than you will have in a lifetime!!!
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Re: Re: RIP/BDE Master Thread
« Reply #15 on: August 26, 2018, 06:15:12 PM »
Still not immune to criticism.
Criticize all you want in another thread. All I said was he was a true American HERO!!! Show some RESPECT!!!
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Re: Re: RIP/BDE Master Thread
« Reply #16 on: August 26, 2018, 06:16:51 PM »
Show some RESPECT!!!
Can we kneel by the lowering of the coffin?

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Re: Re: RIP/BDE Master Thread
« Reply #17 on: August 26, 2018, 06:35:17 PM »
https://twitter.com/netanyahu/status/1033604029568434181

“It was with great sorrow that I received the news of the death of John McCain, a great American patriot and a true friend of Israel,” Netanyahu wrote on Twitter Sunday morning. “His consistent support for Israel stemmed from his belief in the values of democracy and freedom.”
“The State of Israel salutes John McCain,” Netanyahu added. “I will always cherish in his steadfast friendship towards Israel and me personally.”
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Re: Re: RIP/BDE Master Thread
« Reply #18 on: August 26, 2018, 07:04:41 PM »
Because he had more courage in his little finger than you will have in a lifetime!!!
Criticize all you want in another thread. All I said was he was a true American HERO!!! Show some RESPECT!!!

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Re: Re: RIP/BDE Master Thread
« Reply #19 on: August 26, 2018, 09:50:38 PM »
Much respect for him, but I did fee that towards the end of his life he was more worried about making a legacy for himself than supporting his party.

I agree. John was a great man, a true American hero, and the country owes him a debt it can never repay. However, I stand by what I said.
He was not and is not immune to political criticism.
Do you really think him asking trump not to attend the funeral will bring the country closer?

Aside from the fact that OP didn't mention politics, your comments are absurd. Since when is towing party line anything to be proud of? Especially in recent times when towing party line meant carrying water for a man of such vile character.

He can certainly be criticised for his politics, and he undoubtedly made mistakes. But do you know who was harshest on him for his mistakes? John McCain.

His writing about selecting Palin and defending Confederate statues (among others) shows true self reflection the likes of which are almost never seen in politics. Just look at Cruz and Rubio et al, and how they've lost any sense of dignity, courage or integrity to tow party line.

The loss of McCain is not just the loss of an American hero for his military sacrifices, but the loss of one of the few politicians who was able to show integrity and class and wasn't a complete sellout.

No, not having Trump there will not bring the country closer together. But having him there won't either. For a man who has said some of the most heartless, disgusting things, perhaps his worst was mocking McCain's capture. On what planet would you want someone who was such a disgustingly cruel turd to you attend your own funeral?

Using Trump in the same sentence as "bring the country closer" would be comical enough. It is downright absurd when you consider your comment was about a man who asked that the 2 people who crushed him in his runs for president and are polar opposites politically to eulogize him.