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Gosh, is this so complicated? He was a true American hero. Period. Full stop.

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Re: RIP John McCain
« Reply #40 on: August 27, 2018, 03:25:54 PM »
Why do you feel he needs to build a legacy? He doesn't already have one? People like BO and Trump need that.
Why does who feel that?
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Re: RIP John McCain
« Reply #41 on: August 27, 2018, 03:27:02 PM »
Can I ask what the point of that tweet was?
Seems obvious to me. Telling our allies that most Americans stand with them.
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Re: RIP John McCain
« Reply #42 on: August 27, 2018, 03:28:17 PM »
Seems obvious to me. Telling our allies that most Americans stand with them.

"even if our President doesnt"

That def doesnt make us look bad.

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Re: RIP John McCain
« Reply #43 on: August 27, 2018, 03:28:56 PM »
Why does who feel that?
When you quote someone and ask them "Why you" it is not obvious.  ::)
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Re: RIP John McCain
« Reply #44 on: August 27, 2018, 03:30:57 PM »
"even if our President doesnt"

That def doesnt make us look bad.
"Us" as those that stand with our allies, no. Trump is the one making us look bad.
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Re: RIP John McCain
« Reply #45 on: August 27, 2018, 03:31:42 PM »
When you quote someone and ask them "Why you" it is not obvious.  ::)
I agree that he has more than enough of a legacy and I think so does @zaagaru I understood it to mean that he was saying the McCain felt he wanted a legacy. It is not something we haven't seen before. Take a look at John Kerry.
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Re: RIP John McCain
« Reply #46 on: August 27, 2018, 03:35:49 PM »
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Re: RIP John McCain
« Reply #47 on: August 27, 2018, 03:37:23 PM »
"Us" as those that stand with our allies, no. Trump is the one making us look bad.

I think its important for us to show a united front. I think many of his actions derailed that. Yes, Trump is of course to blame that too. I think if McCain would have let him come to his funeral, it would have sent a much stronger message to the American people.

That tweet was not needed and just make us look bad. Then again, so are most of Trump's tweets, but no one is arguing that point.

All in all, John McCain lived a great life and served his country with dignity. May he RIP.

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Re: RIP John McCain
« Reply #48 on: August 27, 2018, 03:38:29 PM »
I agree that he has more than enough of a legacy and I think so does @zaagaru I understood it to mean that he was saying the McCain felt he wanted a legacy. It is not something we haven't seen before. Take a look at John Kerry.
If I misunderstand something someone says they are more than capable to respond themselves. The follow of the conversation was obvious what he meant. He is free to correct it.
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Re: RIP John McCain
« Reply #49 on: August 27, 2018, 03:40:03 PM »
If I misunderstand something someone says they are more than capable to respond themselves. The follow of the conversation was obvious what he meant. He is free to correct it.

what exactly did you think I meant?

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Re: RIP John McCain
« Reply #50 on: August 27, 2018, 03:42:44 PM »
I think its important for us to show a united front. I think many of his actions derailed that. Yes, Trump is of course to blame that too. I think if McCain would have let him come to his funeral, it would have sent a much stronger message to the American people.

That tweet was not needed and just make us look bad. Then again, so are most of Trump's tweets, but no one is arguing that point.

All in all, John McCain lived a great life and served his country with dignity. May he RIP.
We can look at this many ways. When a class person like McCain takes the extraordinary step to say he does not want the president there sends a powerful message. You need to remember Trump disrespect ever POW, even those that died in captivity!!!
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Re: RIP John McCain
« Reply #51 on: August 27, 2018, 03:43:47 PM »
You need to remember Trump disrespect ever POW, even those that died in captivity!!!

No one is arguing this

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Re: RIP John McCain
« Reply #52 on: August 27, 2018, 03:45:25 PM »
what exactly did you think I meant?
It is not obvious from what I wrote? I read this "Something that bothered me the last year or two, which may have not been his motive, but did seem that way, was him trying to build a legacy." as you were saying he was building his legacy the last year or two.
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Re: RIP John McCain
« Reply #53 on: August 27, 2018, 03:45:30 PM »
Who?  :)
Some guy who served more than trump.
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Re: RIP John McCain
« Reply #54 on: August 27, 2018, 03:49:17 PM »
Some guy who served more than trump.
BO served more than Trump. He didn't run and hide like Trump.  ;)
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Re: RIP John McCain
« Reply #55 on: August 27, 2018, 03:50:05 PM »
It is not obvious from what I wrote? I read this "Something that bothered me the last year or two, which may have not been his motive, but did seem that way, was him trying to build a legacy." as you were saying he was building his legacy the last year or two.

Thats what I meant. At least we are on the same page ;)

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Re: RIP John McCain
« Reply #56 on: August 27, 2018, 03:52:44 PM »
Thats what I meant. At least we are on the same page ;)
OK then my point was someone who already has a legacy does not need to build one. Maybe @aygart will learn to keep his nose out of where it doesn't belong.  :)
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Re: RIP John McCain
« Reply #57 on: August 27, 2018, 03:54:13 PM »
OK then my point was someone who already has a legacy does not need to build one. Maybe @aygart will learn to keep his nose out of where it doesn't belong.  :)

Exactly, which is why I felt what he did the last year or two was not needed, since he already had a good legacy.

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Re: RIP John McCain
« Reply #58 on: August 27, 2018, 03:59:16 PM »
Exactly, which is why I felt what he did the last year or two was not needed, since he already had a good legacy.
He was not trying to build a legacy the last year or two. Your tweet showed him taking a factual shot at the president. Not sure how that has anything with building a legacy.
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Re: RIP John McCain
« Reply #59 on: August 27, 2018, 04:00:22 PM »
He was not trying to build a legacy the last year or two. Your tweet showed him taking a factual shot at the president. Not sure how that has anything with building a legacy.

Repeal Obamacare? How many times did he say that during the Obama years.