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Gosh, is this so complicated? He was a true American hero. Period. Full stop.

RIP.

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Re: Re: RIP/BDE Master Thread
« Reply #100 on: August 27, 2018, 08:42:03 PM »
RIP.
This is not the politics thread
at what point do i delete this comment?
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Re: Re: RIP/BDE Master Thread
« Reply #101 on: August 27, 2018, 08:44:33 PM »
at what point do i delete this comment?
When Trump resigns?  :P
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Re: Re: RIP/BDE Master Thread
« Reply #102 on: August 27, 2018, 08:46:17 PM »
When Trump resigns?  :P
Come on. Every time someone sneezes you are looking at it as either a pro or anti trump sneeze.
;D
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Re: Re: RIP/BDE Master Thread
« Reply #103 on: August 27, 2018, 08:48:20 PM »
;D
I can see both pro/anti wanting him gone.
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Re: Re: RIP/BDE Master Thread
« Reply #104 on: August 27, 2018, 08:56:47 PM »
I can see both pro/anti wanting him gone.
no question about that .  but sometimes a sneeze is nothing more than a sneeze
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Re: RIP John McCain
« Reply #105 on: August 27, 2018, 09:42:17 PM »
Don't worry it will get worse.  :)
This is the rip McCain thread. You wanna (continue) ripping Trump, head back to the election thread. :)

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Re: RIP John McCain
« Reply #106 on: August 27, 2018, 10:54:38 PM »
Why do you feel he needs to build a legacy? He doesn't already have one? People like BO and Trump need that.
McCain was a true American hero. %



Without getting into any of the politics...(I'm serious here)

John McCain believed that he will be POTUS, and that will be his final legacy. Why can't he feel the need for a legacy in his last years?



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Re: RIP John McCain
« Reply #107 on: August 27, 2018, 11:16:27 PM »
McCain's comment was irrelevant. It is like saying. He was a great guy but..
McCain was a true American hero. END OF STORY!!!

Do you pray to God every morning or to McCain?  Your comments make it skins like you think John was God, no mistakes, or even if he had mistakes, they were justified. No one here is saying he isn’t a hero. Hero’s aren’t perfect and aren’t God. They have mistakes. People are just pointing those mistakes out. God punished Moshe, for the simplest mistakes, doesn’t mean he wasn’t as great as he was. T

You need to stop immortalizing McCain. Sounds like your still sore from 08 ;)

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Re: RIP John McCain
« Reply #108 on: August 27, 2018, 11:25:55 PM »
This entire thread is ridiculous and should be laid to rest and substituted with one line:
John McCain RIP!
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: RIP John McCain
« Reply #109 on: August 27, 2018, 11:49:20 PM »
This entire thread is ridiculous and should be laid to rest and substituted with one line:
John McCain true American HERO, RIP!
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Re: RIP John McCain
« Reply #110 on: August 27, 2018, 11:52:21 PM »
Do you pray to God every morning or to McCain?  Your comments make it skins like you think John was God, no mistakes, or even if he had mistakes, they were justified. No one here is saying he isn’t a hero. Hero’s aren’t perfect and aren’t God. They have mistakes. People are just pointing those mistakes out. God punished Moshe, for the simplest mistakes, doesn’t mean he wasn’t as great as he was. T

You need to stop immortalizing McCain. Sounds like your still sore from 08 ;)
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Re: RIP John McCain
« Reply #111 on: August 28, 2018, 12:01:00 AM »
The next time a Rabbi dies and you post it please let me know. I will jump in and criticize him and lets see what the reaction is.
so McCain became a religious figure to you because hes a war hero? i sometimes  wonder how you even think of these things you say.
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Re: RIP John McCain
« Reply #112 on: August 28, 2018, 12:09:35 AM »
so McCain became a religious figure to you because hes a war hero? i sometimes  wonder how you even think of these things you say.
Who said anything about McCain being a religious figure?  ::)
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Re: RIP John McCain
« Reply #113 on: August 28, 2018, 12:24:08 AM »
The definition of a hero

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/david-foster-wallace-on-john-mccain-the-weasel-twelve-monkeys-and-the-shrub-194272/
You probably already know what happened. In October of ’67 McCain was himself still a Young Voter and flying his 23rd Vietnam combat mission and his A-4 Skyhawk plane got shot down over Hanoi and he had to eject, which basically means setting off an explosive charge that blows your seat out of the plane, which ejection broke both McCain’s arms and one leg and gave him a concussion and he started falling out of the skies right over Hanoi. Try to imagine for a second how much this would hurt and how scared you’d be, three limbs broken and falling toward the enemy capital you just tried to bomb. His chute opened late and he landed hard in a little lake in a park right in the middle of downtown Hanoi, Imagine treading water with broken arms and trying to pull the life vest’s toggle with your teeth as a crowd of Vietnamese men swim out toward you (there’s film of this, somebody had a home – movie camera, and the N.V. government released it, though it’s grainy and McCain’s face is hard to see). The crowd pulled him out and then just about killed him. U.S. bomber pilots were especially hated, for obvious reasons. McCain got bayoneted in the groin; a soldier broke his shoulder apart with a rifle butt. Plus by this time his right knee was bent 90-degrees to the side with the bone sticking out. Try to imagine this. He finally got tossed on a jeep and taken five blocks to the infamous Hoa Lo prison – a.k.a. the “Hanoi Hilton,” of much movie fame – where they made him beg a week for a doctor and finally set a couple of the fractures without anesthetic and let two other fractures and the groin wound (imagine: groin wound) stay like they were. Then they threw him in a cell. Try for a moment to feel this. All the media profiles talk about how McCain still can’t lift his arms over his head to comb his hair, which is true. But try to imagine it at the time, yourself in his place, because it’s important. Think about how diametrically opposed to your own self-interest getting knifed in the balls and having fractures set without painkiller would be, and then about getting thrown in a cell to just lie there and hurt, which is what happened. He was delirious with pain for weeks, and his weight dropped to 100 pounds, and the other POWs were sure he would die; and then after a few months like that after his bones mostly knitted and he could sort of stand up they brought him in to the prison commandant’s office and offered to let him go. This is true. They said he could just leave. They had found out that McCain’s father was one of the top-ranking naval officers in the U.S. Armed Forces (which is true – both his father and grandfather were admirals), and the North Vietnamese wanted the PR coup of mercifully releasing his son, the baby-killer. McCain, 100 pounds and barely able to stand, refused, The U.S. military’s Code of Conduct for Prisoners of War apparently said that POWs had to be released in the order they were captured, and there were others who’d been in Hoa Lo a long time, and McCain refused to violate the Code. The commandant, not pleased, right there in the office had guards break his ribs, rebreak his arm, knock his teeth out. McCain still refused to leave without the other POWs. And so then he spent four more years in Hoa Lo like this, much of the time in solitary, in the dark, in a closet-sized box called a “punishment cell.” Maybe you’ve heard all this before; it’s been in umpteen different media profiles of McCain. But try to imagine that moment between getting offered early release and turning it down. Try to imagine it was you. Imagine how loudly your most basic, primal self-interest would have cried out to you in that moment, and all the ways you could rationalize accepting the offer. Can you hear it? It so, would you have refused to go? You simply can’t know for sure. None of us can. It’s hard even to imagine the pain and fear in that moment, much less know how you’d react.
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Re: RIP John McCain
« Reply #114 on: August 28, 2018, 12:25:24 AM »
Do you pray to God every morning or to McCain?  Your comments make it skins like you think John was God, no mistakes, or even if he had mistakes, they were justified. No one here is saying he isn’t a hero. Hero’s aren’t perfect and aren’t God. They have mistakes. People are just pointing those mistakes out. God punished Moshe, for the simplest mistakes, doesn’t mean he wasn’t as great as he was. T

You need to stop immortalizing McCain. Sounds like your still sore from 08 ;)
Why is this the right place for that?
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Re: RIP John McCain
« Reply #115 on: August 28, 2018, 12:48:25 AM »
guys guys I figured it out, this whole thread was just a simple mistake-some ppl read the thread title as ‘rip John McCain’ so they did that but it’s really “R.I.P John McCain” see?

No hard feeling yeah?😎👍
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Re: RIP John McCain
« Reply #116 on: August 28, 2018, 07:48:47 AM »
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Re: RIP John McCain
« Reply #117 on: August 28, 2018, 08:22:33 AM »
Who said anything about McCain being a religious figure?  ::)
the way you compared him to zaggurus rabbi.
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Re: RIP John McCain
« Reply #118 on: August 28, 2018, 08:26:19 AM »
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Re: RIP John McCain
« Reply #119 on: August 28, 2018, 08:27:13 AM »
the way you compared him to zaggurus rabbi.
Not sure where you are getting your info from. I didn't compare him to any Rabbi. For the record let me make it perfectly clear. There is no comparison.
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