Paying employees for Yom Tov

[Yammer]

I have a P/T secretary working from 9-1 Mon-Thur and she asked me about payment for Yom Tov.

My understanding was that P/T employees don't get paid for Yom Tov.

What is the norm?

[Sammy82]

I have a P/T secretary working from 9-1 Mon-Thur and she asked me about payment for Yom Tov.

My understanding was that P/T employees don't get paid for Yom Tov.

What is the norm?

I would think every business is different.
In my company, we would pay a 3/5 worker, 3/5 of the holiday.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

What is the norm?

They get paid.

[shaulyaakov]

I would say PT workers get paid for holidays that fall out during their shifts for the number of hours they would have normally worked.

[Yammer]

I would think every business is different.
In my company, we would pay a 3/5 worker, 3/5 of the holiday.

Interesting

They get paid.

How would you know

[Yammer]

I would say PT workers get paid for holidays that fall out during their shifts for the number of hours they would have normally worked.

Correct, that's the question

[HBS]

I've created many employee handbook for different companies. Most frum companies either don't pay at all for PT (less than 20hrs a week) or pro rate (i.e., if normal is 10 holidays for FT, you give 5).

[shaulyaakov]

Correct, that's the question

And my answer is paid for holidays that fall during shifts. If YT were on a Friday, then no pay that day. Since YT were all Mon-Tues, full pay for scheduled hours. When I was PT  at my company that's how it was.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

How would you know

I took the question as normal business practice.
Substitute Christmas for YT, they get paid.

[HBS]

Only true in large companies.
Medium companies generally have flex days (if they need business coverage), unless they don't need to be opened that day.
It really depends on business needs

I took the question as normal business practice.
Substitute Christmas for YT, they get paid.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

Only true in large companies.
Medium companies generally have flex days (if they need business coverage), unless they don't need to be opened that day.
It really depends on business needs

I worked for a couple family owned business. They paid for holidays based on normal hours worked.

[Mordyk]

I've created many employee handbook for different companies. Most frum companies either don't pay at all for PT (less than 20hrs a week) or pro rate (i.e., if normal is 10 holidays for FT, you give 5).

Most businesses that i deal with dont pay regular, but they do give something for the yom tov.

[shaulyaakov]

Only true in large companies.
Medium companies generally have flex days (if they need business coverage), unless they don't need to be opened that day.
It really depends on business needs

I assume from context the that business was closed. If the business were opened (ie Jew/non-Jew partnership), then the question is more complicated. But I think the general rule is that when a business is closed, workers get paid, unless it's strictly an hourly arrangement with no other benefits, in which case it is also more complicated.

[aygart]

I pay my employees who have regularly scheduled hours for YT. The ones who work on an hourly basis and choose their own hours do not get paid for YT.

[Yammer]

I took the question as normal business practice.
Substitute Christmas for YT, they get paid.

Understood

Most businesses that i deal with dont pay regular, but they do give something for the yom tov.

Thanks

[Yammer]

I would say PT workers get paid for holidays that fall out during their shifts for the number of hours they would have normally worked.

And my answer is paid for holidays that fall during shifts. If YT were on a Friday, then no pay that day. Since YT were all Mon-Tues, full pay for scheduled hours. When I was PT  at my company that's how it was.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

If this is a small/family business wouldn't the goodwill by paying them yield dividends in the long run? Besides wouldn't paying them be the right thing to do?

[yelped]

I think Shaul Yaakov's solution is the most fair and reasonable.

[Z56]

If this is a small/family business wouldn't the goodwill by paying them yield dividends in the long run? Besides wouldn't paying them be the right thing to do?

+1

[aygart]

If this is a small/family business wouldn't the goodwill by paying them yield dividends in the long run? Besides wouldn't paying them be the right thing to do?

Absolutely, but the flip side is that when an employer is generous employees can feel they can take advantage. I am experiencing such an issue now.