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Credit Bureau Info:

Experian: 800-493-1058 With A Report Number

Experian: 714-830-7000 (Without A Report Number) Call and Press 0. You will get connected to the switchboard operator. Tell them you just called in and entered your report number and the automated system disconnected you. Ask them if they can get a human on the line for disputes. That's the only way you'll be able to get through to a live person at Experian without a Report Number.

Equifax: 800-846-5279

TransUnion: 800-916-8800


Comparison between FAKO from Credit karma and FICO from Barclays and Citi.


Cards that give you free monthly FICO's


AMEX personal cards = EX 08 Switched to FAKO (VantageScore 3.0)
Chase Slate = EX (either 08 or Bankcard enhanced)
PSECU = EX 04

Citi branded cards = EQ 08 Bankcard enhanced
Citi AA = EQ bankcard enhanced
DCU= EQ 04
PenFed = EQ NextGen
Elements Financial (Credit Union, score available for without opening CC) = EQ 5

Barclays = TU 08
Discover it = TU 08
Walmart (store or MC) = TU 08
« Last edited by Lev26 on April 13, 2022, 02:28:07 AM »

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Re: Credit Score Drop?
« Reply #100 on: January 04, 2012, 10:06:08 PM »
hehe fun read. now back to reading a pilots q and a :D

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« Reply #101 on: January 04, 2012, 10:15:25 PM »
hehe fun read. now back to reading a pilots q and a :D

+1, much more entertaining.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Credit Score Drop?
« Reply #102 on: January 05, 2012, 05:30:05 AM »
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while I might have missed the third line in the forum rules,
Mr Helpme missed the whole point of how this forum works, when someone starts an issue of interest posters elaborate and discuss it to get most info out of it or to help the OP,
so missing a rule is still better then missing the whole point,
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Credit Score Drop?
« Reply #103 on: January 05, 2012, 07:51:45 AM »
Mr Helpme missed the whole point of how this forum works...
Coming from someone who is trying to compare two different FAKO scores I will consider this as a compliment. It seems you would benefit immensely by reading more and posting less.

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« Reply #104 on: January 05, 2012, 09:31:21 AM »
Coming from someone who is trying to compare two different FAKO scores I will consider this as a compliment. It seems you would benefit immensely by reading more and posting less.
AGAIN wasent trying to compare, just trying to figure out what caused his drop,
please STOP reading and posting
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Credit Score Drop?
« Reply #105 on: January 05, 2012, 10:15:25 AM »

p.s.I'm still not getting where bubbles comes into the picture, I guess people just like to show of they're copy/past/linking skills,

again nothing here is written in a personal matter, I admire you all LOL

I would just like to inform you that I have officially been retained as Mr. HelpMe's legal counsel. Henceforth any negative comments you have directed at my client should be addressed to me.  :P

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« Reply #106 on: January 05, 2012, 10:17:40 AM »

p.s.I'm still not getting where bubbles comes into the picture, I guess people just like to show ofoff they'retheir copy/pastpaste/linking skills,

again nothing here is written in a personal matter, I admire you all LOL

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« Reply #107 on: January 05, 2012, 10:19:53 AM »
I would just like to inform you that I have officially been retained as Mr. HelpMe's legal counsel. Henceforth any negative comments you have directed at my client should be addressed to me.  :P
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« Reply #108 on: January 05, 2012, 11:09:46 AM »
I would just like to inform you that I have officially been retained as Mr. HelpMe's legal counsel. Henceforth any negative comments you have directed at my client should be addressed to me.  :P
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« Reply #109 on: January 05, 2012, 12:32:57 PM »
Now we are going to have to figure out compensation. What’s your poison? Points, miles or cash back? Please say miles.   ;)
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« Reply #110 on: January 05, 2012, 03:37:21 PM »
Ha!
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Re: Credit Score Drop?
« Reply #111 on: January 07, 2012, 02:11:11 PM »
just saw a score drop from 788 to 768 on my wifes credit score, due to an amex starewood opened on dec/5  I wad told earlier by amex credit bureau reporting unit that they report new accounts 3 months after opening, but in my case it took a month,
anyone got more info on that, like when amex reports,
problem is was about to apply for 2 new chase's but now my credit debt ratio due to this new account is around 16% which lowers the score
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Re: Credit Score Drop?
« Reply #112 on: January 07, 2012, 02:24:37 PM »
I wad told earlier by amex credit bureau reporting unit that they report new accounts 3 months after opening, but in my case it took a month,
I dont know if such a department exists at all, but in all my experiences it showed instantly on my credit report, so he might of been pulling your leg...

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« Reply #113 on: January 07, 2012, 04:38:18 PM »
I dont know if such a department exists at all, but in all my experiences it showed instantly on my credit report, so he might of been pulling your leg...
this is the dep in amex, handling reporting for the credit bureaus,
so your sayin in your case it was reported as a "new account" straight away, or your talking about the inquiry?
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Re: Credit Score Drop?
« Reply #114 on: January 08, 2012, 02:59:03 AM »
You want to compare FAKO scores. You have to be kidding.

I'm learning a lot from a guy who knows this area pretty well so I'll just quote him on this...

"You are falling for the marketing trap of FICO vs FAKO. There is no such thing. Many lenders have moved away from FICO because they are more expensive than the competitors. What you call FAKOs are not simulated scores but actual scores. Many lenders use them. I will concede that many mortgages still use FICO because Freddie/Fannie wanted a standard risk indicator and FICO was the de facto at the time.

If you look up the entomology on term FAKO, I believe you find that Suze Orman coined the term. Guess what she sells. Don't believe the marketing hype."

"This is such a terrible misconception. I cringe every time I hear it repeated. Sure FICO is the primary score used in a mortgage. That is because Freddie/Fannie require a common benchmark of credit risk.

For every thing else, banks have been moving away from FICO because they are expensive. To suggest other scores are FAKE or simulations is marketing spin from FICO. It is like saying Monster Cables are the only way to watch HD movies. "

So basically these non-FICO scores are every bit as legitimate as FICO and are derived from the same credit information but obviously all having their own unique and ultra-secret method for quantifying that magic number.
Discuss away...

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Re: Credit Score Drop?
« Reply #115 on: January 08, 2012, 03:14:51 AM »
Discuss away...

Nothing to discuss, your post discredits itself.
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« Reply #116 on: January 08, 2012, 04:10:19 AM »
I'm learning a lot from a guy who knows this area pretty well so I'll just quote him on this...

"You are falling for the marketing trap of FICO vs FAKO. There is no such thing. Many lenders have moved away from FICO because they are more expensive than the competitors. What you call FAKOs are not simulated scores but actual scores. Many lenders use them. I will concede that many mortgages still use FICO because Freddie/Fannie wanted a standard risk indicator and FICO was the de facto at the time.

If you look up the entomology on term FAKO, I believe you find that Suze Orman coined the term. Guess what she sells. Don't believe the marketing hype."

"This is such a terrible misconception. I cringe every time I hear it repeated. Sure FICO is the primary score used in a mortgage. That is because Freddie/Fannie require a common benchmark of credit risk.

For every thing else, banks have been moving away from FICO because they are expensive. To suggest other scores are FAKE or simulations is marketing spin from FICO. It is like saying Monster Cables are the only way to watch HD movies. "

So basically these non-FICO scores are every bit as legitimate as FICO and are derived from the same credit information but obviously all having their own unique and ultra-secret method for quantifying that magic number.
Discuss away...
as far as cc your wrong in every way, Chase amex as well as all major cc lenders, rely ONLY on FICO,
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Re: Credit Score Drop?
« Reply #117 on: January 08, 2012, 04:15:43 AM »
as far as cc your wrong in every way, Chase amex as well as all major cc lenders, rely ONLY on FICO,

That's not true, you've even said so yourself recently:

so we know that lenders/cc issuers besides looking at the actual credit score they look at inquiries/late payments/+other factors
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Re: Re: Credit Score Drop?
« Reply #118 on: January 08, 2012, 04:22:52 AM »
That's not true, you've even said so yourself recently:
true that they look at a whole bunch of other factors, but as far as the score they look at the FICO score only, the don't use any other score
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Re: Credit Score Drop?
« Reply #119 on: January 08, 2012, 04:29:36 AM »
true that they look at a whole bunch of other factors, but as far as the score they look at the FICO score only, the don't use any other score

I figured that might be what you meant, but it isn't what you said.
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