Author Topic: 20 killed in upstate NY limousine crash. (Read 21989 times)

ChaimMoskowitz · « **Reply #60 on:** October 08, 2018, 11:54:57 AM »

Quote from: gingyguy on October 08, 2018, 11:51:47 AM

2001 model! cant imaging why someone would even want to hire that!

It seems they rented a bus and that is what they received when the bus broke down. You try and be responsible by not drinking and driving and then something terrible like this happens.

bb1836 · « **Reply #61 on:** October 08, 2018, 12:35:37 PM »

Quote from: ChaimMoskowitz on October 08, 2018, 11:54:57 AM

It seems they rented a bus and that is what they received when the bus broke down. You try and be responsible by not drinking and driving and then something terrible like this happens.

Did the brakes fail resulting in running the stop sign?

as2 · « **Reply #62 on:** October 08, 2018, 01:02:17 PM »

Details are coming out. Appears to be lots of negligence on the part of the limo company.

ChaimMoskowitz · « **Reply #63 on:** October 08, 2018, 01:46:21 PM »

Quote from: bb1836 on October 08, 2018, 12:35:37 PM

Did the brakes fail resulting in running the stop sign?

Not sure but it seems it should not have been on the road to begin with.
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/national-international/Schoharie-Limousine-Crash-Driver-Unlicensed-Failed-Inspection-Upstate-New-York-NY-495910521.html

ChaimMoskowitz · « **Reply #64 on:** October 08, 2018, 05:16:23 PM »

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/owner-of-limo-that-crashed-was-fbi-informant-who-testified-in-terrorism-trials/ar-BBO7r3g?ocid=spartanntp

gingyguy · « **Reply #65 on:** October 08, 2018, 05:58:07 PM »

Quote from: ChaimMoskowitz on October 08, 2018, 01:46:21 PM

Not sure but it seems it should not have been on the road to begin with.
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/national-international/Schoharie-Limousine-Crash-Driver-Unlicensed-Failed-Inspection-Upstate-New-York-NY-495910521.html

failed inspection and driver was not properly licensed.

ExGingi · « **Reply #66 on:** October 08, 2018, 06:04:35 PM »

Quote from: gingyguy on October 08, 2018, 05:58:07 PM

failed inspection and driver was not properly licensed.

And to top it all off, a dangerous intersection/road for heavy vehicles.

ChaimMoskowitz · « **Reply #67 on:** October 10, 2018, 02:51:55 PM »

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/new-york-limo-operator-is-charged-in-fatal-upstate-crash/ar-BBOcBDk?ocid=spartanntp

gingyguy · « **Reply #68 on:** October 10, 2018, 03:40:23 PM »

Quote from: chevron on October 10, 2018, 03:08:13 PM

More relevant than snarky off-topic political jokes would be the comments about how many times this happened / happens in frum yeshiva's and camps.

V'hamavin yavin v'dal... How many unlicensed and unregistered unfit for the road drivers and vehicles were used?

in the frum yeshivas and camps that ive been in it has never happened . And this fits right into "snarky off topic political jokes" which is what ive come to expect of you about anything that starts with frum!

chevron · « **Reply #69 on:** October 10, 2018, 04:15:29 PM »

Quote from: gingyguy on October 10, 2018, 03:40:23 PM

in the frum yeshivas and camps that ive been in it has never happened . And this fits right into "snarky off topic political jokes" which is what ive come to expect of you about anything that starts with frum!

I dont want to go down this road and unsure why it's boiled down to personal attacks. Have a good day

ChaimMoskowitz · « **Reply #70 on:** October 10, 2018, 04:20:21 PM »

Quote from: chevron on October 10, 2018, 04:15:29 PM

...unsure why it's boiled down to personal attacks.

chevron · « **Reply #71 on:** October 10, 2018, 04:24:42 PM »

Quote from: ChaimMoskowitz on October 10, 2018, 04:20:21 PM

If you want my car, thats ok, just pay the lease!

But don't take our guns!

aygart · « **Reply #72 on:** October 11, 2018, 10:02:32 AM »

How in the world did this become about guns?

ChaimMoskowitz · « **Reply #73 on:** October 11, 2018, 10:05:28 AM »

Quote from: aygart on October 11, 2018, 10:02:32 AM

How in the world did this become about guns?

Some are not able to keep threads separated.

Yehuda57 · « **Reply #74 on:** October 11, 2018, 02:23:29 PM »

Quote from: aygart on October 11, 2018, 10:02:32 AM

How in the world did this become about guns?

Some can't help but shoot their mouthes off.

chevron · « **Reply #75 on:** October 11, 2018, 08:24:22 PM »

Quote from: aygart on October 11, 2018, 10:02:32 AM

How in the world did this become about guns?

An opposing knee-jerk reaction to a tragedy, gun-related tragedies elicit knee-jerk calls for the banning of guns.. which is a constitutional right... Whereas the constitution makes no such provisions for the owning and operating of a motor vehicle AND the fact that motor vehicles kill more per year than guns 41,000 motor vehicles (33,000 to gun violence)

I didn't start it, but why should I back down when I showed how the OP used other tragedies threads to call for gun control while in this thread somehow it becomes disrespectful?

Simply stated, why is it OK to call for gun bans and restrictions in the wake of gun tragedies but somehow I am evil for wanting to say discuss car safety?

Yes, the first person that said "let's ban cars" was being sarcastic, still, people need to stop being one dimensional.

chevron · « **Reply #76 on:** October 11, 2018, 08:25:39 PM »

I am not even looking to argue, honestly. I am just confused here. Lay it out to me.

mmgfarb · « **Reply #77 on:** October 11, 2018, 09:31:28 PM »

Quote from: chevron on October 11, 2018, 08:25:39 PM

I am not even looking to argue, honestly. I am just confused here. Lay it out to me.

You want it laid out to you? I'll do it. You took an innocent thread that someone started about a tragedy that happened to a pretty large group of people and turned it into your own personal agenda about a certain member's viewpoints on something completely unrelated. You started making asinine comparisons between gun control and letting people own cars which anyone with half a brain realizes is ridiculous. You made personal attacks against other members, tried to hide behind your own self-righteousness, and deflected blame to others. If you want to have stupid, meaningless arguments using comparisons that don't stand up to basic logical analysis that's fine, we have threads for that. If you want to make thinly veiled personal attacks against other members? Fine, we have threads for that too. But don't take a thread about a significant loss of human life and use it as a springboard for your garbage, nobody's buying it. Quite frankly, I'm tired of your s**t and I can assure you I'm not the only one who feels that way.

gingyguy · « **Reply #78 on:** October 11, 2018, 09:43:21 PM »

Quote from: mmgfarb on October 11, 2018, 09:31:28 PM

You want it laid out to you? I'll do it. You took an innocent thread that someone started about a tragedy that happened to a pretty large group of people and turned it into your own personal agenda about a certain member's viewpoints on something completely unrelated. You started making asinine comparisons between gun control and letting people own cars which anyone with half a brain realizes is ridiculous. You made personal attacks against other members, tried to hide behind your own self-righteousness, and deflected blame to others. If you want to have stupid, meaningless arguments using comparisons that don't stand up to basic logical analysis that's fine, we have threads for that. If you want to make thinly veiled personal attacks against other members? Fine, we have threads for that too. But don't take a thread about a significant loss of human life and use it as a springboard for your garbage, nobody's buying it. Quite frankly, I'm tired of your s**t and I can assure you I'm not the only one who feels that way.

Wow i never knew you had that in you !!

mmgfarb · « **Reply #79 on:** October 11, 2018, 10:16:59 PM »

Quote from: gingyguy on October 11, 2018, 09:43:21 PM

Wow i never knew you had that in you !!

I got a lot in me, I tend to keep it to myself.