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Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
« Reply #60 on: October 09, 2018, 11:44:33 AM »
I still don't get it: why didn't they get a permit for the event? This could have been avoided
Somebody was too lazy. Keep in mind there were numerous hachnasas sifrei torah happening simultaneously in BP that day. If traffic ainít bad enough on a regular day....

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Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
« Reply #61 on: October 09, 2018, 11:56:01 AM »
Somebody was too lazy. Keep in mind there were numerous hachnasas sifrei torah happening simultaneously in BP that day. If traffic ainít bad enough on a regular day....
I know but there are hundreds of hachnasas sifrei torah in NYC every year, almost all of them without any incident. It's not like you cannot get a permit. Maybe some police overreacted but calling nypd nazis is moronic and completely out of the line.
I don't call the IRS antisemites just because they make me pay taxes.

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Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
« Reply #62 on: October 09, 2018, 12:00:41 PM »
Maybe some police overreacted but calling nypd nazis is moronic and completely out of the line.
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Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
« Reply #63 on: October 09, 2018, 12:09:29 PM »
Not saying the individual is right, but the cop definitely did not act in professional manner

From the NYPD patrol guide front page
"Maintain a higher standard of integrity than is generally expected of others
because so much is expected of us.
Value human life, respect the dignity of each individual and render our services
with courtesy and civility."
the NYPD guide book?? how about our guide book? am segulah, kedoishim tehiyu, lo tichalel.... we are supposed to set an exemplary example not justify our stooping to other ppls levels

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Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
« Reply #64 on: October 09, 2018, 12:12:27 PM »
I still don't get it: why didn't they get a permit for the event? This could have been avoided
Arrogance, laziness, holier than though, and lack of interest in permit fees.
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Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
« Reply #65 on: October 09, 2018, 12:23:57 PM »
A conflict between the two actually started this.
If true
I still don't get it: why didn't they get a permit for the event? This could have been avoided
According to Shmira the organizer thought that you don't need a permit and was planning to walk on the sidewalk for the short haul (🤷), and by the time they tried it was too late

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Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
« Reply #66 on: October 09, 2018, 12:53:15 PM »
I guess you're not a new yorker  ;)
Actually, I am. I just don't %&*&^%@ with the NYPD. If they tell me to move, I move precisely because they may overreact.
If you are looking for a more laid back environment move to the suburbs.

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Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
« Reply #67 on: October 09, 2018, 05:35:31 PM »
What exactly was the point of shmira opening a bp branch ? Not enough conflict in ch ?
Shmira in BP is CWSP i dont believe they are the same as CH. Levy Leifer was bored so he opened CWSP to buff everything.
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Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
« Reply #68 on: October 09, 2018, 05:39:51 PM »
According to Shmira the organizer thought that you don't need a permit and was planning to walk on the sidewalk for the short haul (🤷), and by the time they tried it was too late
Shmira does what they want without notifying NYPD. Like i said earlier kids playing cops and robbers with real consequences. Shomrim was formed to combat a specific problem. Shmira was formed to compete with shomrim. I cannot fathom why we even countenance Shmira. And for all those who will say certain people in shomrim did "X"...let those without sin in Shmira please stand up. There is info on them too.
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Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
« Reply #69 on: October 09, 2018, 05:47:48 PM »
Unpermitted hachnasas sefer torah happening in Monsey right now.  SWAT is on scene.
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Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
« Reply #70 on: October 09, 2018, 05:48:51 PM »
Unpermitted hachnasas sefer torah happening in Monsey right now.  SWAT is on scene.
Please tell me this isn't another sick joke.
ETA:I heard swat was responding to calls of shots fired.
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Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
« Reply #71 on: October 09, 2018, 06:43:25 PM »

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Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
« Reply #72 on: October 09, 2018, 06:50:51 PM »
Actually, I am. I just don't %&*&^%@ with the NYPD. If they tell me to move, I move precisely because they may are highly likely to overreact.
FTFY

The personality of people that leads them into a "law enforcement job" isn't that far from those that end up on the other side of the career path (though I'd venture to say that those that end up on the legal side of things, are either lazier, or slightly smarter). It's safest to keep a distance from them.
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Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
« Reply #73 on: October 09, 2018, 09:12:06 PM »
FTFY

The personality of people that leads them into a "law enforcement job" isn't that far from those that end up on the other side of the career path (though I'd venture to say that those that end up on the legal side of things, are either lazier, or slightly smarter). It's safest to keep a distance from them.
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Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
« Reply #74 on: October 09, 2018, 09:16:45 PM »
Unpermitted hachnasas sefer torah happening in Monsey right now.  SWAT is on scene.
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Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
« Reply #75 on: October 10, 2018, 04:28:23 AM »
Why resist arrest? Fight what happens after. He is lucky he was not tased or severely beaten. This was restraint by the police.

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Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
« Reply #76 on: October 10, 2018, 08:10:25 AM »
Why resist arrest? Fight what happens after. He is lucky he was not tased or severely beaten. This was restraint by the police.
Its a natural reaction, like fight or flight. No one wants to get arrested and no one is thinking clearly at that moment. Takes a lot of restraint on the part of the person being arrested to accept that it is happening. It was all fun and games until it got real.
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Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
« Reply #77 on: October 10, 2018, 01:12:16 PM »
They think a whole shturem will happen and the cops will just let them go.

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Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
« Reply #78 on: October 10, 2018, 01:14:15 PM »
They think a whole shturem will happen and the cops will just let them go.
That is exactly what happened.

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Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
« Reply #79 on: October 10, 2018, 02:25:55 PM »
That is exactly what happened.

You think he would have spent a minute more in lock-up if they would not have called the police Nazis?