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This thread discusses speeding tickets and traffic tickets in the state of New York. For parking tickets go here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=15090.0 or here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=23665.msg1088489. For moving violations outside of New York, please start a new thread and add a link here.

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The ticket was issued in this state:
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Ticket one:
Ticket two(ex):
Accident?:
I want information on "do it yourself":
I want information on "hire an attorney":
I want both:


Please read this wiki first. I am not an attorney and this is not legal advice.

Q: Can I get a plea bargain in New York City?
A: No. Every single ticket goes to trial, guilty or not guilty, in New York City. (The 5 boroughs of NY, Kings, Queens, Bronx and Richmond.)

Q: How long does it take for points to fall off your New York State record/license/abstract?
A: For DMV persistent violation purposes 18 months from the date of offense regardless of the date of conviction. At 3 years after the date of conviction on the following January first the points are no longer visible on the driving record which insurance companies and traffic prosecutors look at. DMV always keeps a record of your conviction and if you get too many points over your lifetime you could get a "10 year" revocation, however those records are not visible to insurance companies.

Q: Does it pay to fight my NY ticket or should I just pay it?
A: In order to figure the true cost of a traffic ticket conviction (aside from figuring out the total fines and the effects on your record) you need to call up your insurance company and ask them 2 questions. 1. How much will my insurance go up over the next 4 years if I pay this ticket? 2. How much money in "good driver discounts" will I loss over the next 4 years and how much does this add up to?

The reason you need to ask these 2 questions separately is because the insurance companies "shield themselves" from the statutory requirement to not raise insurance rates for a first violation (or speeds up to 15 MPH) by granting "good driver discounts", and then taking away these good driver discounts when you get your first violation. Therefore the (technically) correct answer to the first question you ask them could be "your insurance will not be raised at all". Then when you ask them the second question the answer may be in the thousands of dollars over the next 4 years, depending on your insurance bracket.

Q: How can I find my New York ticket online? 
A: If it is New York City ticket you can find it at https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay if you received a ticket anywhere outside of NYC and anywhere upstate you must contact the individual Court by phone or mail. There is no way to find your ticket online. Google is not able to find most small Courts as it get confused with giving you the most popular courts and attorneys, therefore I suggest you look up your Court at at www.town-court.com.

Q: How can I get a copy of my NYS driving record/license/abstract?
A: You can buy it at the statutory minimum of $7 at https://my.dmv.ny.gov/crm

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a regular non CDL NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no they will not.

Q: Do NY tickets show up on NJ licenses?
A: Yes as a 2 point out of state conviction (most violations).

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no. Exceptions 1. if you have a CDL the NJ conviction will record on your NY license. 2. DUI/DWI and criminal driving convictions from NJ do record on your NY license. 3. as stated above if you don't respond to the ticket the suspension will follow you to NY. In addition NJ issues warrants for failing to respond to traffic tickets. 4 If you are convicted of a high speed (90+ MPH, 100+ MPH) in NJ the Judge may suspend your NJ driving privileges. 

Q: Can I pay Court fines with a CC?
A: In NYC for moving violations you can use https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay. For NYC parking tickets you can use http://www.nyc.gov/html/dof/html/parking/parking.shtml. As far as "upstate" Courts go, most Courts will allow you to pay with visa or mastercard in person. Many Courts have a CC sheet which you can fill in and mail back, other Courts have a third party processor such as https://www.ncourt.com to accept cc payments. Call the Court to find out what options they have. No one (so far that I have seen) will take CCs over the phone.

Q: I received a camera ticket for a red light (3 points) or speeding (3-11 points) or a bus lane violation (2 points). Do traffic tickets issued from a camera add points to my license?
A: Camera Tickets never go on your license as they are issued against the car and not the driver. Therefor a camera ticket will not add points to your license or increase your insurance.

Q: If I push a ticket off for 18 months and then I am convicted, can I still be suspended by the DMV for having more than 11 points?
A: Pushing off a ticket will not help protect you from DMV actions. The reason is as follows: if you receive 2 tickets worth 6 points each on the same day, and you plead guilty to one of them on that same day and you push the second ticket off for 5 years, and then you plead guilty to that second ticket, the DMV computer will look at the 2 dates of violation and say "the motorist accumulated (more than) 11 points within an 18 month period" and issue a persistent violator suspension against you license.

Insurance companies work the other way around. They can only raise your premium after your date of conviction. Therefore in our example the insurance companies will increase your insurance after the first conviction appears on your record when they renew your policy (which will stay on your record for 3 years and then until the next January 1st) and then they will increase your rates again after the second ticket conviction shows up on your record when they renew your policy, (once again this second ticket will stay on the record for  3 years plus until the next January first. It follows that pleading/being found guilty in December saves 11 months of policy increase, and if there is a way to lock in a one year policy right before a conviction in December you can be looking at a car increase for only 2 years and 1 day, instead of 4 years minus one day.)

Travelers Insurance offers 1 year rates.
Geico is 6 months.

Traffic Ticket Lawyers:

State
New York Attorney Matisyahu Wolfberg http://www.speedingdefense.com/
New York Attorney Zev Goldstein www.zevgoldsteinlaw.com 845-356-7770
New York Attorney Benjamin Goldman https://www.benjamingoldmanlawoffice.com/ 212-203-3810
New Jersey and New York Attorney Adam H. Rosenblum www.ticketdefenselaw.com
New Jersey Attorney Leib Klein www.avvo.com/attorneys/08701-nj-leib-klein-1602182.html 732-987-7040

Great Upstate NY lawyer at very cheap prices. http://jaydrillings.net/

Not that many parking ticket lawyers!
Parking ticket Non Lawyer (NYC)
Cathy Mei She takes 50% to fight the parking or camera ticket
Office Number 212-349-4978
Email 329ticket@gmail.com
Fax 646-699-3630

Parking Expert non attorney (718) 384-5052

Non attorney runner http://www.myticketsnyc.com/

Non attorney runner http://www.wefighttickets.com/

10+ Counties in upstate NY have diversion programs, allowing you to dismiss the ticket for a fine and defensive driving class. Conditions and restrictions apply. Check the District Attorney's website for your county: Allegany, Broome, Cayuga, Chenango, Clinton, Franklin, Livingston, Orleans, Otsego, Tioga, and Wyoming.

This wiki is not legal advice, or the advice of an attorney.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3820 on: March 02, 2022, 04:29:01 PM »
Post your q again using the template in the wiki
sure -

The ticket was issued in this state: New York
I have a license from this state: New York
Regular or Commercial license: Regular
Ticket one: For holding a cellphone (electronic device)
I want information on: if I plead guilty to a cell phone ticket, when do the 5 points from the violation kick in? from the day i received the ticket (2017) or from when I pleaded guilty (2022)?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3821 on: March 03, 2022, 10:12:08 AM »
sure -

The ticket was issued in this state: New York
I have a license from this state: New York
Regular or Commercial license: Regular
Ticket one: For holding a cellphone (electronic device)
I want information on: if I plead guilty to a cell phone ticket, when do the 5 points from the violation kick in? from the day i received the ticket (2017) or from when I pleaded guilty (2022)?

from wiki:
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A: For DMV persistent violation purposes 18 months from the date of offense regardless of the date of conviction.

At 3 years after the date of conviction on the following January first the points are no longer visible on the driving record which insurance companies and traffic prosecutors look at. DMV always keeps a record of your conviction and if you get too many points over your lifetime you could get a "10 year" revocation, however those records are not visible to insurance companies.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3822 on: March 07, 2022, 10:02:35 PM »
im pending a speeding ticket which comes w a whopping 6 points :(
apparently i have 3 points already so thats too close for comfort..
how can i know when the 3 points will go off? do they have their own 4 yr timer? or do they get bumped to the new 6 points timer starting now?
it doesnt say anywhere how much longer the 3 points will be there..any advise?

and does anyone have a lawyer in nyc that can assist?
is it easier to do defensive driver class for 25$ to get off 4 points, or hire a lawyer to possibly get off 6?

thanks!!
« Last Edit: March 07, 2022, 10:26:53 PM by justaregularguy »
nothings impossible- the word itself says Im possible

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3823 on: March 07, 2022, 11:08:40 PM »
im pending a speeding ticket which comes w a whopping 6 points :(
apparently i have 3 points already so thats too close for comfort..
how can i know when the 3 points will go off? do they have their own 4 yr timer? or do they get bumped to the new 6 points timer starting now?
it doesnt say anywhere how much longer the 3 points will be there..any advise?

and does anyone have a lawyer in nyc that can assist?
is it easier to do defensive driver class for 25$ to get off 4 points, or hire a lawyer to possibly get off 6?

thanks!!
Keep in mind if you're found guilty you'll likely have extra driver assessment fees in addition to the fine.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3824 on: March 07, 2022, 11:21:28 PM »
Keep in mind if you're found guilty you'll likely have extra driver assessment fees in addition to the fine.
yes true i realized that now. if i take a defensive course does that lower the point count to below 6 and remove the assessment fees?
nothings impossible- the word itself says Im possible

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3825 on: March 08, 2022, 12:51:45 AM »
yes true i realized that now. if i take a defensive course does that lower the point count to below 6 and remove the assessment fees?
The defensive driver course doesnít really remove 4 points. Just that 4 points donít count towards suspension. In order for points to fall off for suspension you need 18 month of no violations. So for assessment it wonít help but will for possible future suspension. When did you get the first 3 points?
Lawyer will be between like 350 to 500
Was ticket issued in city or upstate?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3826 on: March 23, 2022, 04:55:26 PM »

The ticket was issued in this state:   NEW YORK
The ticket is returnable to in this Town/Village/City:   STATEN ISLAND
I have a license from this state:   NEW JERSEY
Regular or Commercial license:   REGULAR
Ticket one:  SPEEDING - GOING 69 IN A 50 MPH ZONE
Ticket two(ex): THANK GD NOT
Accident?: THANK GD NOT



MY QUESTION IS: if i plead guilty now my ticket is 203$ and 4 points in ny, which transalates into 2 points in nj as a out of state conviction. after reading the wiki and speaking to a lawyer, it seems i only have a guilty/non guilty option. the lawyer costs 250$. the lawyer said this specific officer is a expert and pro at testifying. my insurance record is not pretty and i pay 1550 for 6 months full coverage for a 2015 camry (fully owned) based in lakewood (and im 30 not 22). my last incident was a accident in march 2020 and my insurance agent told me it will fall off after 3 years....its been 2 yrs clean so far and now this....

realisticly what is the point in paying a lawyer? I WAS GUILTY. if i will most probably pay the 203$ and get the 2 points eventually, why also throw out 250$ ??

or on the other hand does it make sense to pay 250 to take a risk that maybe the officer will not testify or something else etc....
and does it help my insurance cost if i get convicted of this ticket in a yr or two (as the lawyer did say it will be pushed off for a while) and not now??

any help is appreciated.

thanks!


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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3827 on: March 23, 2022, 05:49:57 PM »
The ticket was issued in this state:   NEW YORK
The ticket is returnable to in this Town/Village/City:   STATEN ISLAND
I have a license from this state:   NEW JERSEY
Regular or Commercial license:   REGULAR
Ticket one:  SPEEDING - GOING 69 IN A 50 MPH ZONE
Ticket two(ex): THANK GD NOT
Accident?: THANK GD NOT



MY QUESTION IS: if i plead guilty now my ticket is 203$ and 4 points in ny, which transalates into 2 points in nj as a out of state conviction. after reading the wiki and speaking to a lawyer, it seems i only have a guilty/non guilty option. the lawyer costs 250$. the lawyer said this specific officer is a expert and pro at testifying. my insurance record is not pretty and i pay 1550 for 6 months full coverage for a 2015 camry (fully owned) based in lakewood (and im 30 not 22). my last incident was a accident in march 2020 and my insurance agent told me it will fall off after 3 years....its been 2 yrs clean so far and now this....

realisticly what is the point in paying a lawyer? I WAS GUILTY. if i will most probably pay the 203$ and get the 2 points eventually, why also throw out 250$ ??

or on the other hand does it make sense to pay 250 to take a risk that maybe the officer will not testify or something else etc....
and does it help my insurance cost if i get convicted of this ticket in a yr or two (as the lawyer did say it will be pushed off for a while) and not now??

any help is appreciated.

thanks!

You can schedule the first appointment yourself probably close to a year, and see then. Maybe cop will retire

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3828 on: March 23, 2022, 08:53:40 PM »
The ticket was issued in this state:   NEW YORK
The ticket is returnable to in this Town/Village/City:   STATEN ISLAND
I have a license from this state:   NEW JERSEY
Regular or Commercial license:   REGULAR
Ticket one:  SPEEDING - GOING 69 IN A 50 MPH ZONE
Ticket two(ex): THANK GD NOT
Accident?: THANK GD NOT



MY QUESTION IS: if i plead guilty now my ticket is 203$ and 4 points in ny, which transalates into 2 points in nj as a out of state conviction. after reading the wiki and speaking to a lawyer, it seems i only have a guilty/non guilty option. the lawyer costs 250$. the lawyer said this specific officer is a expert and pro at testifying. my insurance record is not pretty and i pay 1550 for 6 months full coverage for a 2015 camry (fully owned) based in lakewood (and im 30 not 22). my last incident was a accident in march 2020 and my insurance agent told me it will fall off after 3 years....its been 2 yrs clean so far and now this....

realisticly what is the point in paying a lawyer? I WAS GUILTY. if i will most probably pay the 203$ and get the 2 points eventually, why also throw out 250$ ??

or on the other hand does it make sense to pay 250 to take a risk that maybe the officer will not testify or something else etc....
and does it help my insurance cost if i get convicted of this ticket in a yr or two (as the lawyer did say it will be pushed off for a while) and not now??

any help is appreciated.

thanks!
CMIIW, that if you push off the ticket for x number of years the points fall off.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3829 on: March 24, 2022, 08:25:02 AM »
@WonderingYid @dealsrus

I donít understand. Are u recommending I should get a lawyer or not? Thanks

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3830 on: March 24, 2022, 11:26:49 AM »
@WonderingYid @dealsrus

I donít understand. Are u recommending I should get a lawyer or not? Thanks
I would start first without and schedule a date, that's the same thing the lawyer would do, so why pay anything now.
Fyi Staten Island is known to be very hard to get dismissed.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3831 on: March 24, 2022, 09:33:43 PM »
@WonderingYid @dealsrus

I donít understand. Are u recommending I should get a lawyer or not? Thanks
Can you plea bargain in SI?

My point is, that even if you don't want to pay for a lawyer, then at least choose the latest possible date, and then push it off if you can.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3832 on: March 24, 2022, 11:20:46 PM »
The ticket was issued in this state:   NEW JERSEY
The ticket is returnable to in this Town/Village/City:   PASSAIC
I have a license from this state:   NEW JERSEY
Regular or Commercial license:   REGULAR
Ticket one:  IMPROPER PASSING
Ticket two(ex): No
Accident?: No

The ticket was from local and is for under $100, but it will put 4 marks on the license.
I am interested if people could please share how it would work for me to defend myself, and if I could say that I want a lawyer if it's not looking good.

Also, I'm interested if anyone could please recommend a lawyer for this. (I know that insurance costs can go up $100's if this stays on record.)

Thank you very much

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3833 on: March 27, 2022, 01:46:51 AM »
Can you plea bargain in SI?

My point is, that even if you don't want to pay for a lawyer, then at least choose the latest possible date, and then push it off if you can.

SI is part of NYC. Last I checked NYC has a clown court and doesn't plea bargain.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3834 on: May 31, 2022, 09:31:41 PM »
The ticket was issued in this state: NJ
The ticket is returnable to in this Town/Village/City: Woodbridge, NJ (GSP)
I have a license from this state: NJ
Regular or Commercial license: Reg
Ticket one: Speeding 1-9 MPH
Ticket two(ex): None
Accident?: No
I want information on "do it yourself":
I want information on "hire an attorney":
I want both: BOTH

Was clocked (laser) at 25 over before Raritan bridge. Cop was nice and summoned me for 64MPH in 55MPH zone. My record is perfectly clean otherwise. Swallow the 2 points and $84 or fight?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3835 on: June 13, 2022, 05:18:42 PM »
The ticket was issued in this state:NY
The ticket is returnable to in this Town/Village/City: Richmond (NYC)
I have a license from this state:
Regular or Commercial license:NY
Ticket one: FLD SIGNAL LANE CHG
Ticket two(ex):
Accident?:no
I want information on "do it yourself": yes
I want information on "hire an attorney":yes
I want both:yes
Violation date is 07/09/2021
Court date is 7/15/22
Should I push off again or no point.
 Main thing is I don't want points (it comes with 2)

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3836 on: June 13, 2022, 07:42:23 PM »
The ticket was issued in this state:NY
The ticket is returnable to in this Town/Village/City: Richmond (NYC)
I have a license from this state:
Regular or Commercial license:NY
Ticket one: FLD SIGNAL LANE CHG
Ticket two(ex):
Accident?:no
I want information on "do it yourself": yes
I want information on "hire an attorney":yes
I want both:yes
Violation date is 07/09/2021
Court date is 7/15/22
Should I push off again or no point.
 Main thing is I don't want points (it comes with 2)
Push it off as long as you possibly can, but lawyers can sometimes do more in that, so if you plan on using a lawyer, have them do it.
Staten Island judges are notorious for convictions.
Brooklyn lawyers aren't so great in SI, but there's this guy in SI, James Birch who has a, better than average, record for SI. 
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