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Re: Elderly Yid assaulted in Borough Park
« Reply #60 on: October 17, 2018, 09:10:32 AM »
You do know what slamming ones head into the pavement could cause, don’t you ?
You are asking someone who lives in Chicago that question?
Is the POS being charged with attempted murder?
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Re: Elderly Yid assaulted in Borough Park
« Reply #61 on: October 17, 2018, 09:14:30 AM »
Is the POS being charged with attempted murder?
Of course not. “Road rage”. If this had been a white attacking an elderly black gentleman, anybody think they would’ve dared drop the hate charge & face DeBlasio’s & Thugs Co. ?

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Re: Elderly Yid assaulted in Borough Park
« Reply #62 on: October 17, 2018, 09:15:36 AM »
Of course not.
That is why I said no to the gun question.
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Re: Elderly Yid assaulted in Borough Park
« Reply #63 on: October 17, 2018, 09:17:48 AM »
What if this was a young stud and not a frail elderly man? You think this POS coward would have attacked him?
Probablynot. What does that have to do with what I said?

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Re: Elderly Yid assaulted in Borough Park
« Reply #64 on: October 17, 2018, 09:18:52 AM »
That is why I said no to the gun question.
They should add attempted murder. That throw at 1.45 could’ve been fatal.
If you’re standing there armed watching it go down, how would you know what they will & won't later on charge him with ?🤔

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Re: Elderly Yid assaulted in Borough Park
« Reply #65 on: October 17, 2018, 09:20:53 AM »
If you’re standing there armed watching it go down, how would you know what they will & won't later on charge him with ?🤔
This is the biggest dilemma for someone that carries. Everyone feels so safe carrying a gun until using it comes into question.
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Re: Elderly Yid assaulted in Borough Park
« Reply #66 on: October 17, 2018, 09:31:07 AM »
This is the biggest dilemma for someone that carries. Everyone feels so safe carrying a gun until using it comes into question.

Why? The law in Florida says you pull your gun, if you have the option to point it and tell the guy you will shoot him unless he stops, great, otherwise shoot him.

But they could have easily pulled this guy off, crazy or not. Or just hired him with a stick etc


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Re: Elderly Yid assaulted in Borough Park
« Reply #67 on: October 17, 2018, 09:35:01 AM »
This is the biggest dilemma for someone that carries. Everyone feels so safe carrying a gun until using it comes into question.
If g-d forbid you’re the one being viciously attacked, would you shoot ?

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Re: Elderly Yid assaulted in Borough Park
« Reply #68 on: October 17, 2018, 09:35:46 AM »
Why? The law in Florida says you pull your gun, if you have the option to point it and tell the guy you will shoot him unless he stops, great, otherwise shoot him.

But they could have easily pulled this guy off, crazy or not. Or just hired him with a stick etc
I am not going to debate the gun issue with you. I am just pointing out facts that many don't think about.
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Re: Elderly Yid assaulted in Borough Park
« Reply #69 on: October 17, 2018, 09:37:28 AM »
If g-d forbid you’re the one being viciously attacked, would you shoot ?
I had to shoot in a worse situation (in my mind) and that is all I will say.
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Re: Elderly Yid assaulted in Borough Park
« Reply #70 on: October 17, 2018, 09:40:56 AM »
Why? The law in Florida says you pull your gun, if you have the option to point it and tell the guy you will shoot him unless he stops, great, otherwise shoot him.

But they could have easily pulled this guy off, crazy or not. Or just hired him with a stick etc



You are as busy with guns as a boy playing with army figures.
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: Elderly Yid assaulted in Borough Park
« Reply #71 on: October 17, 2018, 09:43:26 AM »
If g-d forbid you’re the one being viciously attacked, would you shoot ?

Me? Yes! I have a tethered spine, 1 eye, a brain implant etc. A beating like that if not kill me, would paralyze me and possibly ruin my good eye.

Does the attacker deserve to die if he has mental health issues? I'm not sure. But I dont either.

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Re: Elderly Yid assaulted in Borough Park
« Reply #72 on: October 17, 2018, 09:45:17 AM »
I understand people are more worried about their own ••s then saving someone else’s. Even cops fearing for their live’s have gone through hell as a result. Much easier & safer to bring a bouquet of flowers & a candle afterwards.

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Re: Elderly Yid assaulted in Borough Park
« Reply #73 on: October 17, 2018, 09:45:43 AM »
If g-d forbid you’re the one being viciously attacked, would you shoot ?
yes. If I wasn't sure he was trying to kill me I'd try to maim instead of kill.
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Re: Elderly Yid assaulted in Borough Park
« Reply #74 on: October 17, 2018, 09:51:20 AM »
yes. If I wasn't sure he was trying to kill me I'd try to maim instead of kill.
You better educate yourself about your state laws.
ETA: In most states, juries use the “reasonable person” standard to determine guilt or innocence. Would a reasonable person in the same circumstances fire their weapon? We’re talking the totality of circumstances here. Considerations include your age, weight, height, sex, physical health and life experience; the bad guy(s) age, height, sex, appearance and actions; the type of threat (weapons?); the reason for the threat (robbery? rape? knockout game?). The exact situation as it unfolded: who, what, when, where and why. Everything. All of it.
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Re: Elderly Yid assaulted in Borough Park
« Reply #76 on: October 17, 2018, 12:58:21 PM »
You better educate yourself about your state laws.
ETA: In most states, juries use the “reasonable person” standard to determine guilt or innocence. Would a reasonable person in the same circumstances fire their weapon? We’re talking the totality of circumstances here. Considerations include your age, weight, height, sex, physical health and life experience; the bad guy(s) age, height, sex, appearance and actions; the type of threat (weapons?); the reason for the threat (robbery? rape? knockout game?). The exact situation as it unfolded: who, what, when, where and why. Everything. All of it.

Correct, hence why I would be more likely to shoot in self defense

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Re: Elderly Yid assaulted in Borough Park
« Reply #77 on: October 17, 2018, 05:26:51 PM »
Crime in New York City Plunges to a Level Not Seen Since the 1950s
those aren't crimes they are arguments that got physical mistaken identity
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Re: Elderly Yid assaulted in Borough Park
« Reply #78 on: October 17, 2018, 06:54:26 PM »
Crime in New York City Plunges to a Level Not Seen Since the 1950s
those aren't crimes they are arguments that got physical mistaken identity
Reminds me of my community. We have no murders. We did have one guy commit suicide by stabbing himself 9 times and another guy burnt himself to death by setting a dumpster on fire and jumping into it.
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Re: Elderly Yid assaulted in Borough Park
« Reply #79 on: October 17, 2018, 11:58:30 PM »
I was most impressed by his dedication to his tefillin, He did not drop them even to defend himself! Even when they fell as soon as the guy stopped he ran to get them.