Author Topic: Jamal Khashoggi Murdered At Saudi Consulate  (Read 14238 times)

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A lot of good stuff written here and echo my sentiments. In Islamic regimes and at times elsewhere, full democracy breeds terror.

Remember the arab spring eh? or the syrian revolution, they create vacuums for terror.

Saudi's would do well to ease up on things like women's rights, but terror is all that keeps egypt and Saudi Arabia in check

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This whole thing is another reason why trust in the media is at an all time low. If they would have been honest from the beginning and said
You don't deserve to die based on your political leanings.
99% of people would agree.

Instead they made him into a "democracy and human rights advocate" while ignoring stuff like this;
https://www.twitter.com/JKhashoggi/status/113610181950177280
and the attached

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 @thedailybeast: Joaquin Castro accuses Jared Kushner of orchestrating the Khashoggi killing https://t.co/ZiNn8pdiCx

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This whole thing is another reason why trust in the media is at an all time low.
The media had this one pegged right the whole time.
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This whole thing is another reason why trust in the media is at an all time low. If they would have been honest from the beginning and said  99% of people would agree.

Instead they made him into a "democracy and human rights advocate" while ignoring stuff like this;
https://www.twitter.com/JKhashoggi/status/113610181950177280
and the attached
I won't shed tears for the guy, but did he deserve to be murdered?
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I won't shed tears for the guy, but did he deserve to be murdered?

No.

My comment was solely about the media dishonesty in covering this story.

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This whole thing is another reason why trust in the media is at an all time low. If they would have been honest from the beginning and said  99% of people would agree.

Instead they made him into a "democracy and human rights advocate" while ignoring stuff like this;


The media are upset about what happened to one of their own. Unsurprising. We see the same here all the time.
(BTW, can a mod please change the title to something comprehensible)
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Re: Jamal Khashoggi Murdered At Saudi Consulate
« Reply #32 on: October 21, 2018, 12:25:07 AM »
(BTW, can a mod please change the title to something comprehensible)
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Re: Jamal Khashoggi Murdered At Saudi Consulate
« Reply #33 on: October 21, 2018, 12:27:22 AM »
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: Jamal Khashoggi Murdered At Saudi Consulate
« Reply #34 on: October 21, 2018, 12:43:05 AM »
The same people who don't want mulLer should finish his investigation any time soon wanted the investigation of Jamal Khashoggi's Murder should be finished ASAP. FUNNY?

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I won't shed tears for the guy, but did he deserve to be murdered?

I donít thing itís so clear cut. While he certainly wasnít a terrorist with actual blood on his hands, is that the dividing line? What about an influential personality who incites the Palestinians with claims that the Israelis stole their land, invented a historical connection to Palestine, and are perpetrating a 9/11 on the Palestinian people. Such vitriol is not harmless; it can easily do much of the work for Hamas, Hezbolla, etc. and lead to the murder of innocent people as has happened repeatedly in the past. Does someone get a free pass because heís not the one actually wearing the explosives belt on the egged bus?

 Do I think that the mossaad should put every inciter on a hit list? Of course not. But if his expressed views were indeed inciting people to violence (and that is something that can be debated) I would have a hard time saying he absolutely didnít deserve to die, though I have no sympathy for the Saudis and their barbaric methods...

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I donít thing itís so clear cut. While he certainly wasnít a terrorist with actual blood on his hands, is that the dividing line? What about an influential personality who incites the Palestinians with claims that the Israelis stole their land, invented a historical connection to Palestine, and are perpetrating a 9/11 on the Palestinian people. Such vitriol is not harmless; it can easily do much of the work for Hamas, Hezbolla, etc. and lead to the murder of innocent people as has happened repeatedly in the past. Does someone get a free pass because heís not the one actually wearing the explosives belt on the egged bus?

 Do I think that the mossaad should put every inciter on a hit list? Of course not. But if his expressed views were indeed inciting people to violence (and that is something that can be debated) I would have a hard time saying he absolutely didnít deserve to die, though I have no sympathy for the Saudis and their barbaric methods...
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Re: Jamal Khashoggi Murdered At Saudi Consulate
« Reply #37 on: October 21, 2018, 12:55:34 AM »
Judge, jury and executioner?
AKA dictator?
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Judge, jury and executioner?

And those saying he absolutely didnít deserve to die; is that an Acquittal by judge and jury? Iím not saying he definitely did; just that itís not clear cut and unequivocal.

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And those saying he absolutely didnít deserve to die; is that an Acquittal by judge and jury?
I think somewhere I will invoke the laws of a democracy.
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