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Re: Bingo Wholesale Club Lakewood
« Reply #260 on: January 29, 2019, 11:34:39 AM »
Do you have evidence to back up your statistics?

99% was an exaggeration. I’m sure some are made into jams but I think it’s pre obvious that the vast majority will be consumed in a problematic manner.

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Re: Bingo Wholesale Club Lakewood
« Reply #261 on: January 29, 2019, 11:35:36 AM »
Something available for sale next door is not included.
Not every single thing  has to be technically Assur , to be the wrong thing to do .
People can buy their raspberries to purée  in Costco/Shoprite  , and bingo/glattgourmet won’t be causing Jews to stumble . Wow
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Re: Bingo Wholesale Club Lakewood
« Reply #262 on: January 29, 2019, 11:36:41 AM »
A strawberry seed is one tough seed to grind. What makes you think that the aphid or other potential beryas are as hard. It’s not just a question of the final size of the purée.
Correct. Thus my Psak above permitting one to purée.
However, if anyone here has any further research on purées and bug survival :)
Please pm me !
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Re: Bingo Wholesale Club Lakewood
« Reply #263 on: January 29, 2019, 11:36:44 AM »
What conditions?? And besides ain mevatlin issur is not devorim assurim !
( I intentionally didn’t want to discuss this issue in a public forum , but you refused to answer a private message...)
As long as One does Not Intend on Making the issur Nullified, and this is the way it’s done it’s allowed.
Yes the star K is Machmir ( do you work for them ? ) but many other Poskim are not !

+10000000

The chumrah is based on a Rashbah which we don’t pasken like. 

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Re: Bingo Wholesale Club Lakewood
« Reply #264 on: January 29, 2019, 11:45:46 AM »
It's not the job of every business to make sure that everyone knows halacha.
my friend, do u see what’s going on? Ur implying stores Bear no responsibility for what customers buy.  and I’m responding to u that in fact they do hold responsibility too . Obviously every case has to be weighed with all factors, but that’s not the point. To say that a store bears no responsibility as a blanket statement is just wrong.  And honestly it sounds like u are coming from feelings more than actual knowledge of the topic

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Re: Bingo Wholesale Club Lakewood
« Reply #265 on: January 29, 2019, 11:49:34 AM »
A strawberry seed is one tough seed to grind. What makes you think that the aphid or other potential beryas are as hard. It’s not just a question of the final size of the purée.
Correct. Thus my Psak above .

That is very nice in theory, but did you ever check to see if they certainly get ground? If they certainly don't?

Not every single thing  has to be technically Assur , to be the wrong thing to do .
People can buy their raspberries to purée  in Costco/Shoprite  , and bingo/glattgourmet won’t be causing Jews to stumble . Wow
I am not recommending selling them.
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: Bingo Wholesale Club Lakewood
« Reply #266 on: January 29, 2019, 11:51:06 AM »
Something available for sale next door is not included.
some also hold that berries are edible using the correct procedure, but that’s not the point here.

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Re: Bingo Wholesale Club Lakewood
« Reply #267 on: January 29, 2019, 11:52:06 AM »
my friend, do u see what’s going on? Ur implying stores Bear no responsibility for what customers buy.  and I’m responding to u that in fact they do hold responsibility too . Obviously every case has to be weighed with all factors, but that’s not the point. To say that a store bears no responsibility as a blanket statement is just wrong.  And honestly it sounds like u are coming from feelings more than actual knowledge of the topic
Whatever happened to consumer responsibility and the age old fact that no one else will look out for you as much as you should look out for yourself?

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Re: Bingo Wholesale Club Lakewood
« Reply #268 on: January 29, 2019, 11:54:17 AM »
my friend, do u see what’s going on? Ur implying stores Bear no responsibility for what customers buy.  and I’m responding to u that in fact they do hold responsibility too . Obviously every case has to be weighed with all factors, but that’s not the point. To say that a store bears no responsibility as a blanket statement is just wrong.  And honestly it sounds like u are coming from feelings more than actual knowledge of the topic
You still haven't provided a source to where you draw the line, everything you just said is your feelings, without any evidence that halacha agrees with your feelings.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Bingo Wholesale Club Lakewood
« Reply #269 on: January 29, 2019, 11:59:52 AM »
You still haven't provided a source to where you draw the line, everything you just said is your feelings, without any evidence that halacha agrees with your feelings.
i specifically avoided discussing where the line is drawn because that’s not my point. I’m simply stating that there is responsibility on someone who takes part/aids someone in doing an aveirah, which is quite an elementary idea in Judaism , which apparently some are not aware of. Look at my original response to u. So I’m not exactly sure where u see my feelings at play here

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Re: Bingo Wholesale Club Lakewood
« Reply #270 on: January 29, 2019, 12:28:13 PM »
i specifically avoided discussing where the line is drawn because that’s not my point. I’m simply stating that there is responsibility on someone who takes part/aids someone in doing an aveirah, which is quite an elementary idea in Judaism , which apparently some are not aware of. Look at my original response to u. So I’m not exactly sure where u see my feelings at play here
Therein lies the problem, if you are unable to draw the line, then how are you deciding what goes on which side of the line other than what you feel?
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Bingo Wholesale Club Lakewood
« Reply #271 on: January 29, 2019, 12:33:50 PM »
Something available for sale next door is not included.
חוות יאיר in סימן קפה seems to say that it would still be אסור based on the Gemaras statement ״דאית לי לדידיה״ implying that even if he can buy it elsewhere, it would be אסור to sell
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Re: Bingo Wholesale Club Lakewood
« Reply #272 on: January 29, 2019, 12:38:14 PM »
What would be so complicated to put up a nice permanent sign next to these fruits with a disclaimer?
Jews ≠ Zionists
Palestinians ≠ Hamas
Satmar ≠ SatmarHQ

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Re: Bingo Wholesale Club Lakewood
« Reply #273 on: January 29, 2019, 12:56:15 PM »
Therein lies the problem, if you are unable to draw the line, then how are you deciding what goes on which side of the line other than what you feel?
i haven’t decided what goes on which side. I strongly advise u educate yourself on the topic. Start with the Gemara in avoda Zara 6a

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Re: Bingo Wholesale Club Lakewood
« Reply #274 on: January 29, 2019, 12:57:36 PM »
Seasons Lawrence (I think)
Seasons Lakewood definitely did!

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Re: Bingo Wholesale Club Lakewood
« Reply #275 on: January 29, 2019, 01:02:05 PM »
i haven’t decided what goes on which side. I strongly advise u educate yourself on the topic. Start with the Gemara in avoda Zara 6a
Like I said, it's all based on how you feel. I'll gladly admit i'm wrong if you can show me why I'm wrong, but until then don't put responsibility on other people, unless you have a good source for it.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Bingo Wholesale Club Lakewood
« Reply #276 on: January 29, 2019, 01:05:29 PM »
Like I said, it's all based on how you feel. I'll gladly admit i'm wrong if you can show me why I'm wrong, but until then don't put responsibility on other people, unless you have a good source for it.
i really feel like I will get nowhere with u. But u have implied that a store should not have any responsibility. U are wrong based on the (now 2 )sources I have mentioned. I think I’m done now

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Re: Bingo Wholesale Club Lakewood
« Reply #277 on: January 29, 2019, 01:05:45 PM »
i haven’t decided what goes on which side. I strongly advise u educate yourself on the topic. Start with the Gemara in avoda Zara 6a


It appears you have decided but have difficulty articulating your reasoning. 

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Re: Bingo Wholesale Club Lakewood
« Reply #278 on: January 29, 2019, 01:06:54 PM »

It appears you have decided but have difficulty articulating your reasoning.
can u articulate what I have decided? Insert my quote to better help your point. All I have said is that there is an idea that one who sells something assur to someone, may bear responsibility. The what, where and when, I haven’t discussed. I was simply arguing the general idea that a store owner will never be responsible. Please read my posts before making claims.
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Re: Bingo Wholesale Club Lakewood
« Reply #279 on: January 29, 2019, 01:23:10 PM »
although I do agree with u that ultimately the consumer will have to answer up for what he/she has done individually, and people shouldn’t have the “if they sell it, it must be ok” mentality, still I believe a shomer Torah umitzvos store shares responsibility to a degree in what they are selling.
this was my original post