Author Topic: Shooting In Pittsburgh Shul Targeting Jews, 11 Dead  (Read 30281 times)

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Re: Shooting In Pittsburgh Shul (Targeted against Jews), 11 Dead
« Reply #160 on: October 29, 2018, 02:31:59 PM »
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Re: Shooting In Pittsburgh Shul (Targeted against Jews), 11 Dead
« Reply #161 on: October 29, 2018, 02:33:01 PM »
posted there already 
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Re: Shooting In Pittsburgh Shul (Targeted against Jews), 11 Dead
« Reply #162 on: October 29, 2018, 02:34:40 PM »
Big difference, between saying "i don't think he did it because of....."  and saying "i don't think i understand the reason". But thanks for clearing that up, i stand corrected..
That's where you misquoted me, literally the line before I DID say "I don't think I understand who Hashem decides to kill and why they die."

And then I gave a quote in the same ridiculous tone of the person I was replying to, which is common to do... That is the quote you had a problem with, anyway happy to clear it up.
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Re: Shooting In Pittsburgh Shul (Targeted against Jews), 11 Dead
« Reply #163 on: October 29, 2018, 02:36:14 PM »
Don't take it so personal... HT wont get you to become a mod.... look at me...

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Re: Shooting In Pittsburgh Shul (Targeted against Jews), 11 Dead
« Reply #164 on: October 29, 2018, 02:38:40 PM »
That's where you misquoted me, literally the line before I DID say "I don't think I understand who Hashem decides to kill and why they die."

And then I gave a quote in the same ridiculous tone of the person I was replying to, which is common to do... That is the quote you had a problem with, anyway happy to clear it up.
Got it. I guess i took you to literally.

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Re: Shooting In Pittsburgh Shul (Targeted against Jews), 11 Dead
« Reply #165 on: October 29, 2018, 02:47:09 PM »
Don't take it so personal... HT wont get you to become a mod.... look at me...
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Re: Shooting In Pitssburgh Shul (Targeted against Jews), 11 Dead
« Reply #166 on: October 29, 2018, 04:02:29 PM »
Can someone confirm this. Every time I hear about the gay bris it leads back to this site, I haven't seen it anywhere else
+100. This is what the that site said (emphasis mine):
Quote from: https://www.advocate.com/crime/2018/10/28/synagogue-shooting-occurred-during-bris-gay-couples-twins
"We were just informed that this morning's tragedy was happening during a Briss for a set of twins adopted by a gay couple," the organization posted Saturday on Facebook, in a post that has since been edited to exclude this information, pending the final confirmation. "Our hearts and prayers go out to all that were involved including the members of the Synagogue, law-enforcement and first responders."
Yet it's 2 days later and the FB post still doesn't have that info about the bris.

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Re: Shooting In Pittsburgh Shul (Targeted against Jews), 11 Dead
« Reply #167 on: October 29, 2018, 04:22:12 PM »
Every time I take the time to read up on some popular threads here in JS I remind myself why I stay away.
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Re: Shooting In Pittsburgh Shul (Targeted against Jews), 11 Dead
« Reply #168 on: October 29, 2018, 05:03:04 PM »
+100. This is what the that site said (emphasis mine):Yet it's 2 days later and the FB post still doesn't have that info about the bris.
Not to add anything to this discussion, but imho the question is whether there are gay couples as proud members of the community. Who cares if they made a bris. (Though the irony of a gay bris is there..)

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Re: Shooting In Pittsburgh Shul (Targeted against Jews), 11 Dead
« Reply #169 on: October 29, 2018, 05:08:17 PM »
Not to add anything to this discussion, but imho the question is whether there are gay couples as proud members of the community. Who cares if they made a bris. (Though the irony of a gay bris is there..)
Because when you celebrate what's called a תועבה such an attack shouldn't surprise. These people caused the destruction of the world circa 1656, with the מבול, now a shooting at the place of such celebration shocks one?
It's not a matter of them deserving or not, it has the long arm of the law written all over it.
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Re: Shooting In Pittsburgh Shul (Targeted against Jews), 11 Dead
« Reply #170 on: October 29, 2018, 05:23:26 PM »
Because when you celebrate what's called a תועבה such an attack shouldn't surprise. These people caused the destruction of the world circa 1656, with the מבול, now a shooting at the place of such celebration shocks one?
It's not a matter of them deserving or not, it has the long arm of the law written all over it.
And if it turns out it wasn't true? That it was a 'regular' sabbath service for this place?

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Re: Shooting In Pittsburgh Shul (Targeted against Jews), 11 Dead
« Reply #171 on: October 29, 2018, 05:24:59 PM »
And if it turns out it wasn't true? That it was a 'regular' sabbath service for this place?
What and they only drove on shabbos, but weren't slapping God in the face by making a "bris" for the child of these?
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Re: Shooting In Pittsburgh Shul (Targeted against Jews), 11 Dead
« Reply #172 on: October 29, 2018, 05:26:47 PM »
And if it turns out it wasn't true? That it was a 'regular' sabbath service for this place?
Then by using the same logic they must have done something wrong to deserve it.
I would expect to see these comments on left/right wing nutcase sites!!!
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Re: Shooting In Pittsburgh Shul (Targeted against Jews), 11 Dead
« Reply #173 on: October 29, 2018, 05:31:53 PM »
SO many people who can plan armchair God and say this community was Nigzar for having Gays. What a disgrace for people to make such claims. When it happened in Har Nof, what's the excuse there? The gunman didn't care whether the Jews were Orthodox, Conservative, Reform, or otherwise, so neither should anyone here. You have opinions about why people might be targeted? Keep them to yourself until you become a Navi. For anyone keeping score, Bayit Sheni was destroyed for Sinas Chinam, not for people being gay.

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Re: Shooting In Pittsburgh Shul (Targeted against Jews), 11 Dead
« Reply #174 on: October 29, 2018, 05:35:51 PM »


SO many people who can plan armchair God and say this community was Nigzar for having Gays. What a disgrace for people to make such claims. When it happened in Har Nof, what's the excuse there? The gunman didn't care whether the Jews were Orthodox, Conservative, Reform, or otherwise, so neither should anyone here. You have opinions about why people might be targeted? Keep them to yourself until you become a Navi. For anyone keeping score, Bayit Sheni was destroyed for Sinas Chinam, not for people being gay.

So if the gunman put us in the same boat as radical Islamist we have to unite with them? Since when does a gunman decide our values?
Dont forget the chinam part of Sinas chinam, and remember why the mabul happened as well.
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Re: Shooting In Pittsburgh Shul (Targeted against Jews), 11 Dead
« Reply #175 on: October 29, 2018, 05:36:24 PM »

People need to differentiate between being Gds spokesman for why this happened/assigning blame and for taking life lessons about how we can be better Jews. And they need to GTHO of this thread, have a little respect for the dead and mourning.

+1000.

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Re: Shooting In Pittsburgh Shul (Targeted against Jews), 11 Dead
« Reply #176 on: October 29, 2018, 05:49:27 PM »

So if the gunman put us in the same boat as radical Islamist we have to unite with them? Since when does a gunman decide our values?
Dont forget the chinam part of Sinas chinam, and remember why the mabul happened as well.
+1, if you bring up the mabul you should also bring up the beis hamikdash. It’s amazing that we can’t learn as a ppl after 2000 years...

The “holier than thou” mentality really has to go. I’m hoping we can take incidents like this as an opportunity to reach out and not further distance ourselves from our brethren.

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Re: Shooting In Pittsburgh Shul (Targeted against Jews), 11 Dead
« Reply #177 on: October 29, 2018, 05:52:13 PM »
+1, if you bring up the mabul you should also bring up the beis hamikdash. It’s amazing that we can’t learn as a ppl after 2000 years...

The “holier than thou” mentality really has to go. I’m hoping we can take incidents like this as an opportunity to reach out and not further distance ourselves from our brethren.
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Re: Shooting In Pittsburgh Shul (Targeted against Jews), 11 Dead
« Reply #178 on: October 29, 2018, 06:00:09 PM »
If someone is killed because they're jewish, that can be considered being killed al kiddush hashem. Even if they weren't religious.

Let god figure out who deserves what. We can cry at the pain.

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Re: Shooting In Pittsburgh Shul (Targeted against Jews), 11 Dead
« Reply #179 on: October 29, 2018, 06:01:23 PM »
Hopefully מיתה was מכפר.
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