Author Topic: Shooting In Pittsburgh Shul Targeting Jews, 11 Dead  (Read 30758 times)

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Re: Shooting In Pitssburgh Shul (Targeted against Jews), 11 Dead
« Reply #60 on: October 29, 2018, 09:46:19 AM »
When CNN is blaming the right, and not even saying blaming good ol' antisemitism, and the actual synagogue is using this to promote gay rights etc its disturbing
What I heard blamed anti semitism as well (at its core, which it said verbatim). Maybe you sent the wrong link??? That’s actually generous to the right. He was an anti semite first and right nationalist second, rather than an anti semite second and right nationalist first.

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Re: Shooting In Pitssburgh Shul (Targeted against Jews), 11 Dead
« Reply #61 on: October 29, 2018, 09:50:21 AM »
What I heard blamed anti semitism as well (at its core, which it said verbatim). Maybe you sent the wrong link??? That’s actually generous to the right. He was an anti semite first and right nationalist second, rather than an anti semite second and right nationalist first.
He categorized the crime as a hate crime, but as far as who to blame it was the far right etc that he blamed
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Re: Shooting In Pitssburgh Shul (Targeted against Jews), 11 Dead
« Reply #62 on: October 29, 2018, 10:32:01 AM »
oh my gosh the self proclaimed rabbanim of the world are gonna go to town on this one.. :-X
Doesn't take an idiot to realize why God chose them as the targets.
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Re: Shooting In Pitssburgh Shul (Targeted against Jews), 11 Dead
« Reply #63 on: October 29, 2018, 10:33:01 AM »
He categorized the crime as a hate crime, but as far as who to blame it was the far right etc that he blamed
What’s the incongruence?

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Re: Shooting In Pitssburgh Shul (Targeted against Jews), 11 Dead
« Reply #64 on: October 29, 2018, 10:35:19 AM »
What’s the incongruence?
None. Just in the blame hes politicizing it, and NOT saying that antisemitism is at fault.
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Re: Shooting In Pitssburgh Shul (Targeted against Jews), 11 Dead
« Reply #65 on: October 29, 2018, 10:36:33 AM »
None. Just in the blame hes politicizing it, and NOT saying that antisemitism is at fault.
To be fair, trump is blaming the attack on the “fake news”. Its not just the left politicizing this tragedy...

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Re: Shooting In Pitssburgh Shul (Targeted against Jews), 11 Dead
« Reply #66 on: October 29, 2018, 10:38:03 AM »
To be fair, trump is blaming the attack on the “fake news”. Its not just the left politicizing this tragedy...
Also not cool
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Re: Shooting In Pitssburgh Shul (Targeted against Jews), 11 Dead
« Reply #67 on: October 29, 2018, 10:40:57 AM »
To be fair, trump is blaming the attack on the “fake news”. Its not just the left politicizing this tragedy...
EVERYONE including some here will use everything to further their agenda.
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Re: Shooting In Pitssburgh Shul (Targeted against Jews), 11 Dead
« Reply #69 on: October 29, 2018, 11:15:34 AM »
Doesn't take an idiot to realize why God chose them as the targets.
What an ignorant comment. You sound like the westboro batpist church. I guess god never lets straight Jews die right?

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Re: Shooting In Pitssburgh Shul (Targeted against Jews), 11 Dead
« Reply #70 on: October 29, 2018, 11:16:45 AM »
We question our actions then as well.
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Re: Shooting In Pitssburgh Shul (Targeted against Jews), 11 Dead
« Reply #71 on: October 29, 2018, 11:19:41 AM »
What an ignorant comment. You sound like the westboro batpist church. I guess god never lets straight Jews die right?
Any time there's any casualty, there's always something that we need to take out from it. Sometimes it's hard to see the message, other times it is easier.
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Re: Shooting In Pitssburgh Shul (Targeted against Jews), 11 Dead
« Reply #72 on: October 29, 2018, 11:21:58 AM »
Doesn't take an idiot to realize why God chose them as the targets.
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Re: Shooting In Pitssburgh Shul (Targeted against Jews), 11 Dead
« Reply #73 on: October 29, 2018, 11:23:06 AM »
Any time there's any casualty, there's always something that we need to take out from it. Sometimes it's hard to see the message, other times it is easier.
No we don't have to judge the actions of victims to determine if they deserved their fate or not. We are actually commanded not to do such things.

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Re: Shooting In Pitssburgh Shul (Targeted against Jews), 11 Dead
« Reply #74 on: October 29, 2018, 11:24:19 AM »
Any time there's any casualty, there's always something that we need to take out from it.
I agree with this.

Sometimes it's hard to see the message, other times it is easier.
I do not agree with this.

I don't think I understand who Hashem decides to kill and why they die. I don't think my G-d woke up on shabbos day and said. Ok a gay bris is not good, I will kill a 97 year old woman and 10 others, so people know it's not ok.

But of course you are entitled to your own opinion.
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Re: Shooting In Pitssburgh Shul (Targeted against Jews), 11 Dead
« Reply #75 on: October 29, 2018, 11:25:20 AM »
No we don't have to judge the actions of victims to determine if they deserved their fate or not. We are actually commanded not to do such things.
Have you heard of "מינים"?
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Re: Shooting In Pitssburgh Shul (Targeted against Jews), 11 Dead
« Reply #76 on: October 29, 2018, 11:28:11 AM »
I agree with this.
I do not agree with this.

I don't think I understand who Hashem decides to kill and why they die. I don't think my G-d woke up on shabbos day and said. Ok a gay bris is not good, I will kill a 97 year old woman and 10 others, so people know it's not ok.

But of course you are entitled to your own opinion.
I donteither believe that God "woke up and..." but seeing דין וחשבון before our eyes for כופרים is what strengthens our אמונה. I encourage you to look at הלכת אבילות when it comes to such people.
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Re: Shooting In Pitssburgh Shul (Targeted against Jews), 11 Dead
« Reply #77 on: October 29, 2018, 11:28:27 AM »
Have you heard of "מינים"?
I have kabalah from my rabeim that מין is an acronym for a very specific group although it is sometimes used as a borrowed term to refer to others.
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Re: Shooting In Pitssburgh Shul (Targeted against Jews), 11 Dead
« Reply #78 on: October 29, 2018, 11:29:27 AM »
We say 6 million kedoshim died in the holocaust. Most were not observant. They were targeted because they were jews. Hence they died Al Kiddush Hashem.....

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Re: Shooting In Pitssburgh Shul (Targeted against Jews), 11 Dead
« Reply #79 on: October 29, 2018, 11:29:36 AM »
I donteither believe that God "woke up and..." but seeing דין וחשבון before our eyes for כופרים is what strengthens our אמונה. I encourage you to look at הלכת אבילות when it comes to such people.
I encourage you to learn פירוש המילות before you learn that piece in הלכות אבילות.