Author Topic: Shooting In Pittsburgh Shul Targeting Jews, 11 Dead  (Read 11963 times)

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Re: Shooting In Pittsburgh Shul (Targeted against Jews), 11 Dead
« Reply #180 on: October 29, 2018, 06:01:57 PM »
I don't remotely judge the ignorant or those not like me. But THIS is not considered part of us.
And if a tragedy were to befall NK itís because they are anti zionists. Lubavitch itís Bc they have meshichists in their midst. Chareidim itís bc they protect child molesters. But if they happen to me - itís a tragedy. Reminds me of martin niemollerís famous holocaust quote.

Iím happy that the agudah doesnít share your voice. Just if a radicalized anti semite stares you in the eye, donít try telling him ďI follow the shulchan aruch and finished shas 3 timesĒ.

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Re: Shooting In Pittsburgh Shul (Targeted against Jews), 11 Dead
« Reply #181 on: October 29, 2018, 06:04:53 PM »


And if a tragedy were to befall NK itís because they are anti zionists. Lubavitch itís Bc they have meshichists in their midst. Chareidim itís bc they protect child molesters. But if they happen to me - itís a tragedy. Reminds me of martin niemollerís famous holocaust quote.

Iím happy that the agudah doesnít share your voice. Just if a radicalized anti semite stares you in the eye, donít try telling him ďI follow the shulchan aruch and finished shas 3 timesĒ.

Somethings are next level.
And don't try hiding from the hate, we are destined to be hated forever, that's what strengthens us as a nation and puts our differences (when no kvifa is involved) aside.
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Re: Shooting In Pittsburgh Shul (Targeted against Jews), 11 Dead
« Reply #182 on: October 29, 2018, 06:05:39 PM »
Because when you celebrate what's called a תועבה such an attack shouldn't surprise. These people caused the destruction of the world circa 1656, with the מבול, now a shooting at the place of such celebration shocks one?
It's not a matter of them deserving or not, it has the long arm of the law written all over it.
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Re: Shooting In Pittsburgh Shul Targeting Jews, 11 Dead
« Reply #183 on: October 29, 2018, 06:06:14 PM »
Hopefully מיתה was מכפר.
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Re: Shooting In Pittsburgh Shul Targeting Jews, 11 Dead
« Reply #184 on: October 29, 2018, 06:07:22 PM »
My personal opinion is that there is a tremendous chillul hashem here as well
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Re: Shooting In Pittsburgh Shul (Targeted against Jews), 11 Dead
« Reply #185 on: October 29, 2018, 06:08:50 PM »
I don't think it's the right time or place to fight over this. But now that we are here, just trying to understand.
If the narrative was different, if these weren't gay people, but instead murderers or pedophiles. And if their fellow community members were proudly supporting their crimes. Would we have this same discussion? Would we say that these people deserved to die?
Or if a disaster strikes an ISIS mosque, would we say we understand God's actions? Why?

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Re: Shooting In Pittsburgh Shul (Targeted against Jews), 11 Dead
« Reply #186 on: October 29, 2018, 06:26:50 PM »
I don't think it's the right time or place to fight over this. But now that we are here, just trying to understand.
If the narrative was different, if these weren't gay people, but instead murderers or pedophiles. And if their fellow community members were proudly supporting their crimes. Would we have this same discussion? Would we say that these people deserved to die?
Or if a disaster strikes an ISIS mosque, would we say we understand God's actions? Why?
I personally always say we never know. even for isis. I know itís not your intention but please donít compare non religious Jews who may or may not be friends with people who may or may not be engaging in homosexuality to isis. Our fellow Jews (and even friendly gentiles) are never our ďenemiesĒ

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Re: Shooting In Pittsburgh Shul Targeting Jews, 11 Dead
« Reply #187 on: October 29, 2018, 07:12:37 PM »
Listen at the end of the day, this is a wake up call for all Jews to do some self reflection and see how they can improve themselves, if you want to bring security or armed worshippers thats fine but dont think hashem causes these things and by simply getting a gun, hashem is going to say problem solved. Its like when a father hits his son for doing something wrong, and the kid says you know what let me just wear a helmet and it wont hurt next time. No bro hell break your knee cap next. Focus primarily on how to make yourself and your nation better and secondary get whatever protection you think you need.

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Re: Shooting In Pittsburgh Shul (Targeted against Jews), 11 Dead
« Reply #188 on: October 29, 2018, 07:51:45 PM »
Don't take it so personal... HT wont get you to become a mod.... look at me...
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Re: Shooting In Pittsburgh Shul Targeting Jews, 11 Dead
« Reply #194 on: October 29, 2018, 08:55:20 PM »
Finally an appropriate response
Awful response. Ignore the clear message Hashem is saying , and bang Mezuzos wherever.
The first thing is to realize God hates Gay Behavior. It's an abomination.
Secondly , we can try to add light to the world, with Mezuzos etc.
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