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Re: Shooting In Pittsburgh Shul Targeting Jews, 11 Dead
« Reply #200 on: October 29, 2018, 10:07:00 PM »
And then third you can realize that god hates other people who act as if they are god. And ascribe messages in His name to fit their agenda and claim it is in the name of the “torah”
Hashem hates people who act/say  they are God. Very true . Someone specific comes to mind...
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Re: Shooting In Pittsburgh Shul Targeting Jews, 11 Dead
« Reply #201 on: October 29, 2018, 10:08:14 PM »
please show me where it says to hate gays. And if you think Gds message is to hate gays then you are even more messed up than I thought
Please stay civil. And don't call people names. Ty
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Re: Shooting In Pittsburgh Shul Targeting Jews, 11 Dead
« Reply #202 on: October 29, 2018, 10:08:29 PM »
http://matzav.com/post-piitsburgh-massacre-chizuk-from-rav-eytan-feiner/

Would do some of the hotheads on this thread some good to listen...

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Re: Shooting In Pittsburgh Shul Targeting Jews, 11 Dead
« Reply #203 on: October 29, 2018, 10:10:19 PM »
I am learning so much about G-d in this thread. A few more threads like this and I will know everything.  ::)
You are !! I suggest your new name be
Rabbi Chaim Moskowitz !!
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Re: Shooting In Pittsburgh Shul Targeting Jews, 11 Dead
« Reply #204 on: October 29, 2018, 10:13:47 PM »
Please stay civil. And don't call people names. Ty

Only one person here (I hope) is supporting hating a fellow yid.

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Re: Shooting In Pittsburgh Shul Targeting Jews, 11 Dead
« Reply #205 on: October 29, 2018, 10:14:54 PM »
Awful response. Ignore the clear message Hashem is saying , and bang Mezuzos wherever.
The first thing is to realize God hates Gay Behavior. It's an abomination.
Secondly , we can try to add light to the world, with Mezuzos etc.
Gd "dislikes/hates" lots of different behavior. 
Behavior that we all as humans do. Some do X some do Y some do Z.    Somehow Gay people have gotten this image in your eyes as the "worst sinners" - so others can go on lying, cheating, stealing, abusing etc etc - really causing pain and suffering to their fellow man and somehow *that's* ok.


I know most people don't think this way.  But it still stings to hear...to read these words by people who can't look at another human.... And see their brother, the Yid.
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Re: Shooting In Pittsburgh Shul Targeting Jews, 11 Dead
« Reply #206 on: October 29, 2018, 10:18:59 PM »
Question for all you guys, assuming the babies are Jewish, is the bris less of a mitzvah because they were adopted by ovrei aveira?
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: Shooting In Pittsburgh Shul Targeting Jews, 11 Dead
« Reply #207 on: October 29, 2018, 10:23:05 PM »
http://matzav.com/post-piitsburgh-massacre-chizuk-from-rav-eytan-feiner/

Would do some of the hotheads on this thread some good to listen...
Not in relation to anything here. This is unlistenable. Is this what you call good listening? Kvetching to a new level.
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Re: Shooting In Pittsburgh Shul Targeting Jews, 11 Dead
« Reply #208 on: October 29, 2018, 10:23:54 PM »
All the people who say that a tragedy comes for something that someone else did reminds me of this
וְהִתְבָּרֵ֨ךְ בִּלְבָב֤וֹ לֵאמֹר֙ שָׁל֣וֹם יִֽהְיֶה־לִּ֔י כִּ֛י בִּשְׁרִר֥וּת לִבִּ֖י אֵלֵ֑ךְ לְמַ֛עַן סְפ֥וֹת הָֽרָוָ֖ה אֶת־הַצְּמֵאָֽה:
Like the men blaming on tznius and the women blaming on talking in shul.
Note that this is the one thing for which the chumash says that
לֹֽא־יֹאבֶ֣ה ... סְלֹ֣חַ לוֹ֒
Maybe if I would be more careful in hilchos shabbos they wouldn't be driving to shul. Maybe if I would be more careful in shmiras einayim they wouldn't be in illicit relations.
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Re: Shooting In Pittsburgh Shul Targeting Jews, 11 Dead
« Reply #209 on: October 29, 2018, 10:25:44 PM »
Question for all you guys, assuming the babies are Jewish, is the bris less of a mitzvah because they were adopted by ovrei aveira?
Been saying that all day. These ovrei aveirah were bringing 2 children into the bris of Avraham Avinu. Dam Milah and Dam Kiddush Hashem. What greater kiddush hashem? There are plenty of "frum" baalei aveirah that make brissim every day for children and grandchildren.
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Re: Shooting In Pittsburgh Shul Targeting Jews, 11 Dead
« Reply #210 on: October 29, 2018, 10:26:37 PM »
Why can't you guys respond like Rabbi Lau did. When the media was trying to get him to say divisive comments, he responded point blank that he couldn't care less what they believed in or where they davened or if they have major theological differences - they're jews and they were murdered for being Jewish. Yet somehow it makes a difference if the shul is conservative and may have been celebrating the bris of a gay couple's son.

When the Arab murdered tzaddikim in har nof at merkaz harav a few years back, was that punishment for them davening at zionist yeshiva ?

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Re: Shooting In Pittsburgh Shul Targeting Jews, 11 Dead
« Reply #211 on: October 29, 2018, 10:29:14 PM »
Not in relation to anything here. This is unlistenable. Is this what you call good listening? Kvetching to a new level.

Listen to the last few minutes where he says our job is not to look down from our high perch on other Jews, reform, conservative, reconstructionist, etc. but to join together in their pain- imo anochi bitzara....

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Re: Shooting In Pittsburgh Shul Targeting Jews, 11 Dead
« Reply #212 on: October 29, 2018, 10:30:23 PM »
Not in relation to anything here. This is unlistenable. Is this what you call good listening? Kvetching to a new level.

So now lashon harah about a rov for literally no reason...

I will ask again that this thread be closed because nothing good is coming out of it. Just chillul hashem, lashon harah, sinas chinam, etc. in the name of religion.
@Dan  if you'd close a thread that is about to expose a fuel dump or MS secret out of risk that it get exposed, I hope you'll also close a thread full of hate between Jews.

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Re: Shooting In Pittsburgh Shul Targeting Jews, 11 Dead
« Reply #213 on: October 29, 2018, 10:34:02 PM »
All the people who say that a tragedy comes for something that someone else did reminds me of this
וְהִתְבָּרֵ֨ךְ בִּלְבָב֤וֹ לֵאמֹר֙ שָׁל֣וֹם יִֽהְיֶה־לִּ֔י כִּ֛י בִּשְׁרִר֥וּת לִבִּ֖י אֵלֵ֑ךְ לְמַ֛עַן סְפ֥וֹת הָֽרָוָ֖ה אֶת־הַצְּמֵאָֽה:
Like the men blaming on tznius and the women blaming on talking in shul.
Note that this is the one thing for which the chumash says that
לֹֽא־יֹאבֶ֣ה ... סְלֹ֣חַ לוֹ֒
Maybe if I would be more careful in hilchos shabbos they wouldn't be driving to shul. Maybe if I would be more careful in shmiras einayim they wouldn't be in illicit relations.
Exactly what I was thinking. Those people who claim that they're just pointing it out so they could learn from it are in essence doing exactly opposite by saying it won't affect them because they would never do such horrible things. They're actually deflecting the lessons that should be learned.

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Re: Shooting In Pittsburgh Shul Targeting Jews, 11 Dead
« Reply #214 on: October 29, 2018, 10:34:19 PM »
The shooter was an antisemite and wanted to kill Jews no matter the affiliation. That's a fact that we all agree on.

However, he could've Googled "Jewish school" and gone to the lubabitch yeshiva, instead God sent him to the conservative temple. That is the fact that we're discussing.
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Re: Shooting In Pittsburgh Shul Targeting Jews, 11 Dead
« Reply #215 on: October 29, 2018, 10:34:58 PM »
So now lashon harah about a rov for literally no reason...

I will ask again that this thread be closed because nothing good is coming out of it. Just chillul hashem, lashon harah, sinas chinam, etc. in the name of religion.
@Dan  if you'd close a thread that is about to expose a fuel dump or MS secret out of risk that it get exposed, I hope you'll also close a thread full of hate between Jews.

Fair enough. This thread is shameful.
Even 2000 years after the beis hamikdash was destroyed for a lack of Ahavas Yisroel, the lesson has yet to be learned.
Take a few minutes and learn Tanya, perek Lamed Beis
https://www.chabad.org/library/tanya/tanya_cdo/aid/7911/jewish/Chapter-32.htm
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Re: Shooting In Pittsburgh Shul Targeting Jews, 11 Dead
« Reply #216 on: October 29, 2018, 10:36:46 PM »
The shooter was an antisemite and wanted to kill Jews no matter the affiliation. That's a fact that we all agree on.

However, he could've Googled "Jewish school" and gone to the lubabitch yeshiva, instead God sent him to the conservative temple. That is the fact that we're discussing.
Is this a joke?
You know full and well that the hate parade here would say it's because Lubavitchers do XYZ wrong.
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Re: Shooting In Pittsburgh Shul Targeting Jews, 11 Dead
« Reply #217 on: October 29, 2018, 10:37:40 PM »
And we're done here.
This popcorn will leave a stench for quite some time
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