Author Topic: Joining Kosherica cruise minyan (and what happened in Antarctica)  (Read 4019 times)

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Re: Re: Live Antarctica Trip Report
« Reply #75 on: December 23, 2018, 04:27:30 PM »

Not sure what you misunderstood here.
There were other Jews on our cruise and we invited them to Shabbos meals, kosher food, etc.

The problem would be if there were Jews who specifically booked passage on the cruise while paying 5 figures just to take advantage of their services without paying the small premium for those services.

That didn't happen, but it could have been quite awkward. In the end we had an amazing array of Jews from all walks of life and it was truly special.



Nobody did that. In the previous thread I was referring to the theoretical.

Was there or wasn't there others on your cruise? Which part is theoretical?

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Re: Re: Live Antarctica Trip Report
« Reply #76 on: December 23, 2018, 05:32:01 PM »
We didn't do anything to stop them.

We offered a very compelling value (Kosher food, wine, drinks, pre trip hotel, and much more) for a small premium and didn't have any issues.
that seems unfair to those who paid the full price

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Re: Re: Live Antarctica Trip Report
« Reply #77 on: December 23, 2018, 05:36:21 PM »
that seems unfair to those who paid the full price
There were no frum Jews who tried to game our services.
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Re: Re: Live Antarctica Trip Report
« Reply #78 on: December 23, 2018, 05:41:22 PM »
that seems unfair to those who paid the full price
There were no frum Jews who tried to game our services.
I believe that @mochjas misinterpreted the previous comment by @Dan to mean that you offered them onboard to join at a discounted price (by your words "for a small premium")

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Re: Re: Live Antarctica Trip Report
« Reply #79 on: December 23, 2018, 05:45:02 PM »
Nobody joined onboard. All frum Jews on the boat reserved space with us beforehand.
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Re: Re: Live Antarctica Trip Report
« Reply #80 on: December 23, 2018, 05:48:08 PM »
Nobody joined onboard. All frum Jews on the boat reserved space with us beforehand.

Did some book directly with the cruise line and then join you (prior to boarding)?

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Re: Re: Live Antarctica Trip Report
« Reply #81 on: December 23, 2018, 05:48:54 PM »
There were other Jews on our cruise and we invited them to Shabbos meals, kosher food, etc.

Nobody joined onboard. All frum Jews on the boat reserved space with us beforehand.
I guess the "other" Jews were not (yet) religious...
« Last Edit: December 23, 2018, 05:52:10 PM by yandmk »

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Re: Re: Live Antarctica Trip Report
« Reply #82 on: December 23, 2018, 05:51:42 PM »
Did some book directly with the cruise line and then join you (prior to boarding)?

Nope.
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Re: Re: Live Antarctica Trip Report
« Reply #83 on: December 23, 2018, 05:52:09 PM »
I guess the "other" Jews were not (yet) religious...
Indeed.
And they didn't participate in almost anything.
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Re: Re: Live Antarctica Trip Report
« Reply #84 on: December 23, 2018, 10:41:40 PM »
Just to be clear.
You think that it is OK to specifically book a kosher cruise with the intention of using their services without paying for it?
To daven with them ? Nunu
 To try to get kosher food, no

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Re: Re: Live Antarctica Trip Report
« Reply #85 on: December 24, 2018, 09:12:19 AM »
To daven with them ? Nunu
 To try to get kosher food, no

Davening costs money also... someone has to pay for the room and the expenses of bringing the Torah. It would at least be proper for someone in this situation to offer to pay a nominal fee for davening with the minyan.

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Re: Re: Live Antarctica Trip Report
« Reply #86 on: December 24, 2018, 09:22:15 AM »
Davening costs money also... someone has to pay for the room and the expenses of bringing the Torah. It would at least be proper for someone in this situation to offer to pay a nominal fee for davening with the minyan.
its halacha when someone builds a fence he can force his neighbor to chip in since he benefits from the privacy...

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Re: Re: Live Antarctica Trip Report
« Reply #87 on: December 24, 2018, 09:38:06 AM »
its halacha when someone builds a fence he can force his neighbor to chip in since he benefits from the privacy...
Ok, so tell Kosherica to charge $50-$100 for anyone who wants to join the minyan and help pay for the cost of having the minyan. (I don't think they'd be happy with that arrangement.)
« Last Edit: December 24, 2018, 09:41:22 AM by avromie7 »
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Re: Re: Live Antarctica Trip Report
« Reply #88 on: December 24, 2018, 09:40:55 AM »
its halacha when someone builds a fence he can force his neighbor to chip in since he benefits from the privacy...
could davening have a definable amount of hanaa (or any mitzvah)?
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Re: Re: Live Antarctica Trip Report
« Reply #89 on: December 24, 2018, 10:27:33 AM »
could davening have a definable amount of hanaa (or any mitzvah)?
that depend on your level of observance, hence the reason why @Dan didn't bother charging those that he invited.

I wouldn't "Enjoy" a cruise with no minyan.