iPhone 5 coming 10/4!

[AsherO]

I know you said "so far", but it's only like 90 mins into the real deal. Why giving up hope so easily?

EDIT: Darn. Just ended. No iPhone 5, yet.

I told you so

If Sprint releases a dual GSM/CDMA iPhone like this one, I wonder how they'll manage ESNs (MEIDs). Right now they only activate ESN/MEIDs that are in their database.

[sky121]

I told you so

If Sprint releases a dual GSM/CDMA iPhone like this one, I wonder how they'll manage ESNs (MEIDs). Right now they only activate ESN/MEIDs that are in their database.

What do you mean?  The same way they activate all world phones they offer... no?

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[AsherO]

What do you mean?  The same way they activate all world phones they offer... no?

Not the same.

The world phones they offer also have a CDMA ESN/MEID which is unique to Sprint. Sprint doesn't activate non-Sprint-branded devices on their network, so this might be a first (at least in the past decade+) for them.

[ceejay]

Not the same.

The world phones they offer also have a CDMA ESN/MEID which is unique to Sprint. Sprint doesn't activate non-Sprint-branded devices on their network, so this might be a first (at least in the past decade+) for them.

Im not sure what the issue is. The new iphone has two chipsets the CDMA one and GSM one(on 1 chip the  iPhone 4 actually had the correct chip it just wasnt enabled). The CDMA one will have a ESN/MEID and the GSM one has an IMEI

[AsherO]

Im not sure what the issue is the. The new has two chipsets the CDMA one and GSM one(on 1 chip the  iPhone 4 actually had the correct chip it just wasnt enabled). The CDMA one will have a ESN/MEID and the GSM one has an IMEI

Right, but will Sprint have a subset of iPhones which will activate on its network, or will all iPhones activate on Sprints network?

Right now I can't activate a VZW iPhone (4) on Sprint, I'm asking if that'll change.

[Dan]

I'd assume all iPhone 4S ESNs will be in Sprint's systems.

[ceejay]

Right, but will Sprint have a subset of iPhones which will activate on its network, or will all iPhones activate on Sprints network?


Right now I can't activate a VZW iPhone (4) on Sprint, I'm asking if that'll change.

"CDMA available only if iPhone 4S is sold and activated for use on a CDMA network." from http://www.apple.com/iphone/specs.html
So I'm assuming they will have different sets of phones.

I'd assume all iPhone 4S ESNs will be in Sprint's systems.

Why would they do that? I dont think its very complicated to have different sets of ESNs. (The iPhone in china is CDMA albeit a different chipset/ frequency)

[AsherO]

I'd assume all iPhone 4S ESNs will be in Sprint's systems.

That would already be something new, it would mean I could activate my VZW iPhone 4S (once it launches with them) on Sprint (if I decide to leave VZW).

"CDMA available only if iPhone 4S is sold and activated for use on a CDMA network." from http://www.apple.com/iphone/specs.html
So I'm assuming they will have different sets of phones.

The whole point is they won't have separate phones. It'll streamline manufacturing/distribution and the phones would be interoperable between all the networks.

[Dan]

That would already be something new, it would mean I could activate my VZW iPhone 4S (once it launches with them) on Sprint (if I decide to leave VZW).

That's my take.  Definitely something only Apple could pull off.

[ceejay]

Again this all speculation but I can't imagine that Apple can/will allow this (VZW on sprint or vice versa). Provisoning/authentication methods are different and Apple probably wants it as simple as can be for  customers

[AsherO]

Again this all speculation but I can't imagine that Apple can/will allow this (VZW on sprint or vice versa). Provisoning/authentication methods are different and Apple probably wants it as simple as can be for  customers

Provisioning can be uniform, all you have to do is program your phone number into the phone (unless they figured out how to circumvent that as well).

[ceejay]

Assuming that they will do will have handsfree activation due to whole PC Free thing certain settings (i.e. A-Key which is currently only used by Verizon) can only be changed when modem is offline (thereby preventing handsfree). Handsfree is also done by connecting to carriers data network and downloading profile(Phone is authenticated using preprogrammed username usually ESN@sprint3g.net). Verizon also uses blank MSL while Sprint has a unique one for each phone.


All in all there are several carrier settings that have to be "flashed" to the phone in order to assure 100% comparability with network.

[AsherO]

Assuming that they will do will have handsfree activation due to whole PC Free thing certain settings (i.e. A-Key which is currently only used by Verizon) can only be changed when modem is offline (thereby preventing handsfree). Handsfree is also done by connecting to carriers data network and downloading profile(Phone is authenticated using preprogrammed username usually ESN@sprint3g.net).

Ah, I forgot about data-provisioning. CDMA voice provisioning is the same across the board.

I think there's still a real chance for a 4G (as in WiMax) iPhone 5 to be announced on 10/7.

[AsherO]

One other thing that hasn't been covered is battery life. With all these radios, and dual-CPU+GPU, this thing must be a power hog...

[sky121]

One other thing that hasn't been covered is battery life. With all these radios, and dual-CPU+GPU, this thing must be a power hog...

They claim even with all that the battery life is better than the iphone4.   

 Anyone know what pricing is for the iphone4s without contract?

[BAHayman]

Did I miss the announcement of the iPhone 4 coming to Sprint as well??

ref

[AsherO]

Did I miss the announcement of the iPhone 4 coming to Sprint as well??

ref

http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/04/sprint-iphone-officially-announced-on-sale-october-14/

[BAHayman]

http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/04/sprint-iphone-officially-announced-on-sale-october-14/

Ah, cool. Seems like Apple didn't announce it and just put it on apple.com...