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Zurich
HOTELS
-The Park Hyatt is fantastic and a 10 minute walk to shul.
Tram stop: Stockerstrasse

RESTAURANTS

Meat:

Florentin - Located inside he JCC https://florentin.rest/
Tram stop: Bahnhof Enge

Grill Cave

Food truck. Check website for opening hours. Burgers, sandwiches, hot dogs etc.
https://www.thegrillcave.co/


Milk/Parve:

Babi's Bagels (Bederstrasse corner Klopstockstrasse 8002 Zürich) Tram Stop "Waffenplatzstrasse"

Bakery:
Ma'Adan Bakery
Manessestrasse/Schimmelstrasse
Has delicious pastries and also sells sandwiches, salads, and some sushi.

Butcher:
Metzgerei Kol Tuv

Can preorder for pickup.
Can also deliver throughout Switzerland by post.
See website for details.

https://www.koltuv.ch/en

ATTRACTIONS
-Walk around the lake area
-Bahnhofstrasse window shopping
-Take a train to Lucerne and buy the golden ticket, included a boat ride on Lake Lucerne, cogwheel train and tram. Then take bus back to Lucerne
-When you arrive in Lucerne you can go to the tourist office to see a live view from Mount Pilatus (Or you can check online). If it's cloudy skip the cogwheel train and just take a nice boatride and explore the town, ancient bridges, and walk on top of the old city fortress walls.




Options in the Alps

Arosa: Metropol Hotel - quaint little old hotel. Not very fancy - it's like honeymooning in your grandmother's house (HT: Mrs. Moishebatchy). The food is very basic, but delicious. Mikva on premises. If skiing is your thing, the have an agreement with one of the ski places (Härtner) not to charge Metropol customers for ski rentals over Shabbos.


Need a meal on shabbes, please PM me (Chuchem). I live 15 minute walk from the hyatt, close to chabad. Zürich has no eiruv!

Major Attractions
“Please edit the wiki to add more attractions”

Central Switzerland
-Lucerne, Pilatus Offers: Cogwheel, Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mini Zip-line and fun area
-Titlis Offers: Gondolas, Snow Tubing, Trutti Bikes, Ice Museum, Row Boating
-Brunni Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Stroll in Lake(!)

Jungfrau Region
-Jungfrau/jungfraujoch Click here for the Kosher hotel in Wengen / 360-degree panorama of Jungfraujoch-Top of Europe
-Grindelwald Offers: Gondolas, mega Zip-line, Trutti Bikes

Eastern Switzerland
-St. Moritz
Davos / Klosters
Arosa Click here for the Kosher Levins hotel

Southern Switzerland
-Zermatt - "Matterhorn"
-Saas-Fee Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mega Zip-line, Trotti Bikes, (Saas-Grund has Monster Trotteres) and on top of "Allalin" you can go Snow Tubing and Skiing even in the summer!
-Crans Montana You can email the Kosher hotel in Crans Montana Hotelmk@gmail.com  or call them at 0032485640498 or 003233011600


HalbTax Pass

A HalbTax pass (or Half Fare card) is a card designated for tourists and not for Swiss residents (officially...). The card gives you half price on all public transportation like buses, trains, trams, boats and also on "most" cable cars (attractions). There are basically 4 kinds.

1) An annual pass, the price is currently 175 francs. If i remember correctly it has a photo ID of the recipient, so double check before sharing it.
Click here for the annual pass

2) A 30 day pass, the price is currently 120 francs, it does not have a photo ID on it.
Click here or here for the 30 day pass

3) - Recommended for frequent traveling Swiss Travel Pass - you prepay a set amount per day and get unlimited for that day (plus "optional" for a fee, for 1 month including the days you chose, it is a HalbTax, even on the prepaid free days, it's only free for all transportation, on cable cars you only get half off). The price per day depends on how many days you prepay, for example if you prepay 8 days, the price per day will be about 53 francs, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 73 francs. If you are 25 y/o or younger, you can get the Youth Pass which is cheaper - If you prepay 8 days  the price per day will be about 40 francs a day, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 62 francs.
Click here (or here) for the prepaid pass

The card comes with a few days “you could chose your dates later”, officially when you want to use a certain day for the free day you should fill in on the pass that date, and when the first conductor comes he punches that day, but technically you can leave the date blank until the conductor comes, that way you have a chance if no conductor asks you for your card (happens quite often) you can save it for the next day :)

4) Swiss Transfer Ticket" This card costs 141 francs and is valid for 2 trips from and to the boarder or airport, for example you are traveling from the airport to Arosa and are not planning to go anywhere else or take any other transportation, with this card you will effectively pay 71 francs per way. This card is only valid for trips to and from the airport or boarder and no (long) stops allowed. Technically if you will travel one more day, the Swiss travel pass mentioned above will probably be cheaper.

Make sure to order your pass a few weeks before leaving, it takes about 1-3 weeks for the pass to arrive. But you can always buy it in the Airport, though you might have to wait in line and also if you want to buy the Youth pass (for 25 y/o or younger) they might ask you for proof...

There is also a family pass if you travel with a large family, I am not familiar with that.


Fast Baggage
There is a service via SBB, They deliver your luggage for you!! For example you are traveling from ZRH to Arosa, you don't want to be busy Shlepping around your luggage, You can check in your luggage in the airport and they (SBB) will deliver it to the train station in Arosa. This service is available "from and to" most train stations in Switzerland. You can ask about the Fast Baggage by any train station or read here or here

You can even buy a tag that you put on the luggage before checking in your luggage in any airport (i.e. JFK) and Rail Europe will take your luggage from the airplane in Switzerland and deliver it either to your hotel or to the train station in the city you're going to.  Read about Flight Luggage Here




PS. When doing research and getting to a website in German, just add /en (after .ch) to translate to English.
And Hey, Don't forget to write a TR ;)

Sample Itinerary for 9 hour stopover on Swiss flight from TLV to U.S. that lands at 810 and takes off around 5
Copied from @cholent:
Here it is: landed in zrh, crazy line for entering country but moved pretty quickly, about half an hour. Picked up sim in the airport. Rented car through Priceline from europecar. Drove to Titlis, stunning scenery along drive. Missed a turnoff because I couldn't get Waze to talk and I was trying to do some stuff online while we were driving, added half an hour to get there, but the stunning scenery made it worthwhile. Got there, parked, you pay at the entrance if you're going to park for more than an hour. Paid, took the cable car. Got off at there halfway station by mistake, gorgeous lake. Went back on and back up to the top. It was somewhat cloudy which was a pity. Suspension bridge was fun but no view because of the clouds. Took the ice flyer to the other peak, then went sledding down the hill, lots of fun. No tubing because there wasn't enough snow. We didn't have enough time for the ice cave because of the extra time driving there and we weren't sure where it was anyway. Made some new Israeli friends and took the cable car down with them. Got back to the airport, returning the car took less than five minutes, getting through the airport took a little longer so we didn't have time for showers at the lounge. It was amazing all around, I would definitely recommend

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1020 on: August 19, 2015, 10:36:44 AM »

Skydiving
Nice TR! Looks like you had a super amazing time!!

The picture above is actually a paraglider


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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1021 on: August 20, 2015, 06:41:42 AM »
Repairing the broken bridge at the Metropol hotel.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1022 on: August 27, 2015, 09:46:14 PM »
Connecting in ZRH from VCE to NYC, do i need to pass immigration or security?


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Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1023 on: September 01, 2015, 02:19:27 PM »
What's the easiest option ( will be with a bunch of luggage ) to get from the airport to the park hyatt ?
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1024 on: September 01, 2015, 02:44:19 PM »
What's the easiest option ( will be with a bunch of luggage ) to get from the airport to the park hyatt ?
Taxi

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1025 on: September 01, 2015, 02:51:48 PM »
Taxi

+1 the streets are cobblestone & I remember shlepping my suitcases my hands were vibrating so much it was hurting!!

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1026 on: September 01, 2015, 03:26:47 PM »
Any hotels closer to the airport ? If ill only have a few hours spare time to go do, or check something out, what should it be ?
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1027 on: September 01, 2015, 03:30:18 PM »
Any hotels closer to the airport ? If ill only have a few hours spare time to go do, or check something out, what should it be ?

Radisson blu ZRH.. obvious choice if you have an early am flight & are not spending much time in Zurich

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1028 on: September 01, 2015, 04:18:47 PM »

Radisson blu ZRH.. obvious choice if you have an early am flight & are not spending much time in Zurich
Rates are quite high, and I don't have any club Carlson points. Any points transferable to them, or can only get from the cc itself ?
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« Reply #1029 on: September 01, 2015, 04:27:25 PM »
Rates are quite high, and I don't have any club Carlson points. Any points transferable to them, or can only get from the cc itself ?
+1 for raddison blu. They have their own shuttle.

Another option for traveling without or with minimum luggage, is the Holiday Inn airport, 15 minute tram away

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Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1030 on: September 01, 2015, 05:00:27 PM »
+1 for raddison blu. They have their own shuttle.

Another option for traveling without or with minimum luggage, is the Holiday Inn airport, 15 minute tram away
This is not the best thread to ask, but do you happen to know if I'm flying LX into ZRH, with a layover for about 15 hrs. then UA to NYC, if they can interline the luggage straight onto the 2nd flight - even if I leave the airport overnight ?
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1031 on: September 01, 2015, 05:06:33 PM »
This is not the best thread to ask, but do you happen to know if I'm flying LX into ZRH, with a layover for about 15 hrs. then UA to NYC, if they can interline the luggage straight onto the 2nd flight - even if I leave the airport overnight ?
No idea. But i do know that you can rent a (so called) locker for your luggage and they keep your luggage for you in the airport

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1032 on: September 01, 2015, 07:18:10 PM »
+1 for raddison blu. They have their own shuttle.

Another option for traveling without or with minimum luggage, is the Holiday Inn airport, 15 minute tram away
Radisson Blu has no shuttle as they are connected to the airport and no shuttle needed.
You are probably referring to park inn by Radisson.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1033 on: September 01, 2015, 11:06:52 PM »
Radisson Blu has no shuttle as they are connected to the airport and no shuttle needed.
You are probably referring to park inn by Radisson.
Yup

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1034 on: September 02, 2015, 12:55:28 AM »

Rates are quite high, and I don't have any club Carlson points. Any points transferable to them, or can only get from the cc itself ?
go on Hotwire and select the airport area and it is the 4.5 star  so you will save about half the price

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1035 on: September 02, 2015, 11:29:51 AM »

go on Hotwire and select the airport area and it is the 4.5 star  so you will save about half the price
Good idea. Thank you.
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1036 on: September 02, 2015, 03:56:36 PM »
Radisson Blu is physically inside the airport. about a 7-10 minute walk from terminal/gates
Zurich airport is very big, once you depart the plane, walk thru the terminal, there is a 3-4 floor
mall with stores/restaurants/supermarkets/gym, and Radisson Blu
rates are high, I recommend club Carlson visa card, has 85,000 sign up bonus (1 night is 70,000)
if you travel thru Europe a lot , club Carlson has many hotel options. Unfortunately they devalued their points in June 
(Radisson Blu Zurich was 50,000 points before June 2015)
There is also a transit hotel in the airport
http://www.zurich-airport.com/~/media/FlughafenZH/Dokumente/Passagiere_und_Besucher/Airport_Services/Preisliste_Transit_Hotel.pdf

lockers are an option, people posted

The train is right inside the airport and is a 15 minute ride to downtown Zurich. With 1 piece of luggage not too bad, with 2 big luggages, could be a hassle..


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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1037 on: September 02, 2015, 06:20:09 PM »
once you depart the plane
for the future, depart the plane = deplane

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1038 on: September 03, 2015, 10:05:24 AM »
for the future, depart the plane = deplane

Or simply "get off the plane". :P

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1039 on: September 04, 2015, 12:32:36 PM »
Is an hour sufficient time to catch a LX, ZRH-TLV flight, when I'm coming from a LX, VCE-ZRH flight ?
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