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Zurich
HOTELS
-The Park Hyatt is fantastic and a 10 minute walk to shul.
Tram stop: Stockerstrasse

RESTAURANTS

Meat:

Olive Garden - Located inside he JCC
Tram stop: Bahnhof Enge


Milk/Parve:

Fein und Schein - cafe type of place; ambience lacking, but hey, food is food

Bagels and Co.  (Bederstrasse corner Klopstockstrasse 8002 Zürich) Tram Stop "Waffenplatzstrasse"

Books & Bagels - combination bagel shop and judaica store

Bakery:

ATTRACTIONS
-Walk around the lake area
-Bahnhofstrasse window shopping
-Take a train to Lucerne and buy the golden ticket, included a boat ride on Lake Lucerne, cogwheel train and tram. Then take bus back to Lucerne
-When you arrive in Lucerne you can go to the tourist office to see a live view from Mount Pilatus (Or you can check online). If it's cloudy skip the cogwheel train and just take a nice boatride and explore the town, ancient bridges, and walk on top of the old city fortress walls.




Options in the Alps

Arosa: Metropol Hotel - quaint little old hotel. Not very fancy - it's like honeymooning in your grandmother's house (HT: Mrs. Moishebatchy). The food is very basic, but delicious. Mikva on premises. If skiing is your thing, the have an agreement with one of the ski places (Härtner) not to charge Metropol customers for ski rentals over Shabbos.


Need a meal on shabbes, please PM me (Chuchem). I live 15 minute walk from the hyatt, close to chabad. Zürich has no eiruv!

Major Attractions
“Please edit the wiki to add more attractions”

Central Switzerland
-Lucerne, Pilatus Offers: Cogwheel, Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mini Zip-line and fun area
-Titlis Offers: Gondolas, Snow Tubing, Trutti Bikes, Ice Museum, Row Boating
-Brunni Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Stroll in Lake(!)

Jungfrau Region
-Jungfrau/jungfraujoch Click here for the Kosher hotel in Wengen / 360-degree panorama of Jungfraujoch-Top of Europe
-Grindelwald Offers: Gondolas, mega Zip-line, Trutti Bikes

Eastern Switzerland
-St. Moritz
Davos / Klosters
Arosa Click here for the Kosher Levins hotel

Southern Switzerland
-Zermatt - "Matterhorn"
-Saas-Fee Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mega Zip-line, Trotti Bikes, (Saas-Grund has Monster Trotteres) and on top of "Allalin" you can go Snow Tubing and Skiing even in the summer!
-Crans Montana You can email the Kosher hotel in Crans Montana Hotelmk@gmail.com  or call them at 0032485640498 or 003233011600


HalbTax Pass

A HalbTax pass (or Half Fare card) is a card designated for tourists and not for Swiss residents (officially...). The card gives you half price on all public transportation like buses, trains, trams, boats and also on "most" cable cars (attractions). There are basically 4 kinds.

1) An annual pass, the price is currently 175 francs. If i remember correctly it has a photo ID of the recipient, so double check before sharing it.
Click here for the annual pass

2) A 30 day pass, the price is currently 120 francs, it does not have a photo ID on it.
Click here or here for the 30 day pass

3) - Recommended for frequent traveling Swiss Travel Pass - you prepay a set amount per day and get unlimited for that day (plus "optional" for a fee, for 1 month including the days you chose, it is a HalbTax, even on the prepaid free days, it's only free for all transportation, on cable cars you only get half off). The price per day depends on how many days you prepay, for example if you prepay 8 days, the price per day will be about 53 francs, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 73 francs. If you are 25 y/o or younger, you can get the Youth Pass which is cheaper - If you prepay 8 days  the price per day will be about 40 francs a day, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 62 francs.
Click here (or here) for the prepaid pass

The card comes with a few days “you could chose your dates later”, officially when you want to use a certain day for the free day you should fill in on the pass that date, and when the first conductor comes he punches that day, but technically you can leave the date blank until the conductor comes, that way you have a chance if no conductor asks you for your card (happens quite often) you can save it for the next day :)

4) Swiss Transfer Ticket" This card costs 141 francs and is valid for 2 trips from and to the boarder or airport, for example you are traveling from the airport to Arosa and are not planning to go anywhere else or take any other transportation, with this card you will effectively pay 71 francs per way. This card is only valid for trips to and from the airport or boarder and no (long) stops allowed. Technically if you will travel one more day, the Swiss travel pass mentioned above will probably be cheaper.

Make sure to order your pass a few weeks before leaving, it takes about 1-3 weeks for the pass to arrive. But you can always buy it in the Airport, though you might have to wait in line and also if you want to buy the Youth pass (for 25 y/o or younger) they might ask you for proof...

There is also a family pass if you travel with a large family, I am not familiar with that.


Fast Baggage
There is a service via SBB, They deliver your luggage for you!! For example you are traveling from ZRH to Arosa, you don't want to be busy Shlepping around your luggage, You can check in your luggage in the airport and they (SBB) will deliver it to the train station in Arosa. This service is available "from and to" most train stations in Switzerland. You can ask about the Fast Baggage by any train station or read here or here

You can even buy a tag that you put on the luggage before checking in your luggage in any airport (i.e. JFK) and Rail Europe will take your luggage from the airplane in Switzerland and deliver it either to your hotel or to the train station in the city you're going to.  Read about Flight Luggage Here




PS. When doing research and getting to a website in German, just add /en (after .ch) to translate to English.
And Hey, Don't forget to write a TR ;)

Sample Itinerary for 9 hour stopover on Swiss flight from TLV to U.S. that lands at 810 and takes off around 5
Copied from @cholent:
Here it is: landed in zrh, crazy line for entering country but moved pretty quickly, about half an hour. Picked up sim in the airport. Rented car through Priceline from europecar. Drove to Titlis, stunning scenery along drive. Missed a turnoff because I couldn't get Waze to talk and I was trying to do some stuff online while we were driving, added half an hour to get there, but the stunning scenery made it worthwhile. Got there, parked, you pay at the entrance if you're going to park for more than an hour. Paid, took the cable car. Got off at there halfway station by mistake, gorgeous lake. Went back on and back up to the top. It was somewhat cloudy which was a pity. Suspension bridge was fun but no view because of the clouds. Took the ice flyer to the other peak, then went sledding down the hill, lots of fun. No tubing because there wasn't enough snow. We didn't have enough time for the ice cave because of the extra time driving there and we weren't sure where it was anyway. Made some new Israeli friends and took the cable car down with them. Got back to the airport, returning the car took less than five minutes, getting through the airport took a little longer so we didn't have time for showers at the lounge. It was amazing all around, I would definitely recommend

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Re: edelweiss st moritz
« Reply #105 on: January 03, 2011, 02:14:36 PM »
well one of the attractions in zermatt is to go to the top of the klein matterhorn to the highest viewing platform in europe. a 6 month old cannot go to such an altitude

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Re: edelweiss st moritz
« Reply #106 on: January 03, 2011, 02:25:50 PM »
well one of the attractions in zermatt is to go to the top of the klein matterhorn to the highest viewing platform in europe. a 6 month old cannot go to such an altitude

I'm glad you told me now and not when I'm up there. I'll make sure to plan accordingly.

What else did you do there?

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Re: edelweiss st moritz
« Reply #107 on: January 03, 2011, 02:26:53 PM »
they actually wouldnt let the child go.

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Re: edelweiss st moritz
« Reply #108 on: January 03, 2011, 02:29:04 PM »
you might want to consider the "glacier express" to st moritz. supposed to be one of the nicest train rides in the world (scenery wise)

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Re: edelweiss st moritz
« Reply #109 on: January 03, 2011, 02:55:25 PM »
you might want to consider the "glacier express" to st moritz. supposed to be one of the nicest train rides in the world (scenery wise)

Looks real nice. So fly into Zurich or Geneva, take train to Zermatt, spend 1-2 nights there, take Glacier Express to St. Moritz, spend the night there and take train to Zurich next day?

Make sense? Any reason to go to St Moritz first and train to Zermatt?

Thanks for all your time and info
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Re: edelweiss st moritz
« Reply #110 on: January 03, 2011, 03:38:21 PM »
do realize that its also the slowest "express". about 9 hours if i recall correctly.
also be aware that hotels in both those locations arent cheap.

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Re: edelweiss st moritz
« Reply #111 on: January 03, 2011, 03:48:17 PM »
Can I find any food in either place or am I on my own?

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Re: edelweiss st moritz
« Reply #112 on: January 03, 2011, 03:51:42 PM »
theres a kosher list of acceptable products that can be bought in the supermarket (such as thomy mayo)
in st moritz there might be bakery that has some acceptible items iirc

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Re: edelweiss st moritz
« Reply #113 on: January 03, 2011, 03:57:19 PM »
So now that we've come full circle to OP, where are people staying in St. Moritz now that kosher hotel is gone?

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Re: edelweiss st moritz
« Reply #114 on: January 03, 2011, 04:02:02 PM »
to be honest, many didnt stay there, just ate there. i for one had to, since i went with my kid and theres no eiruv,
if you have money to burn, the badrutts palace is supposed to be one of the best hotels in the world

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Re: edelweiss st moritz
« Reply #115 on: January 03, 2011, 10:31:25 PM »
I understand that he doesn't print his own money.

Glacier express is an excellent idea.

For the not-yiddalach/mevinim, the nicest kanton, also with highest nice weather chance, is wallis/valais.
I would stay in little local hotels.

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Re: edelweiss st moritz
« Reply #116 on: January 04, 2011, 06:46:09 AM »
to be honest, many didnt stay there, just ate there. i for one had to, since i went with my kid and theres no eiruv,
if you have money to burn, the badrutts palace is supposed to be one of the best hotels in the world
if you have money dont bother with badrutts, go straight to hotel kulm

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Re: edelweiss st moritz
« Reply #117 on: January 04, 2011, 07:21:13 AM »
Zermatt is nice, St. Moritz as well. If you do both and go with the glacier express you will have done everything the right way. I have never heard of a mountain, that a baby cant go on. I even called them up and they have no problem with a baby going up.

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Re: edelweiss st moritz
« Reply #118 on: January 04, 2011, 08:57:14 AM »
if you have money dont bother with badrutts, go straight to hotel kulm
reviews are not nearly as good as the bp

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« Reply #119 on: January 04, 2011, 09:02:25 AM »
Zermatt is nice, St. Moritz as well. If you do both and go with the glacier express you will have done everything the right way. I have never heard of a mountain, that a baby cant go on. I even called them up and they have no problem with a baby going up.

with all due respect, i was there and they told me my kid cannot go to the MATTERHORN GLACIER PARADISE .  not only that they wouldnt let us go to the final stop on the GORNERGRAT . they would only sell us tickets to go half the way up.