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Kosher food list 2016

Zurich
HOTELS
-The Park Hyatt is fantastic and a 10 minute walk to shul.
Tram stop: Stockerstrasse

RESTAURANTS

Meat:

Olive Garden - Located inside he JCC
Tram stop: Bahnhof Enge


Milk/Parve:

Fein und Schein - cafe type of place; ambience lacking, but hey, food is food

Bagels and Co.  (Bederstrasse corner Klopstockstrasse 8002 Zürich) Tram Stop "Waffenplatzstrasse"

Books & Bagels - combination bagel shop and judaica store

Bakery:

ATTRACTIONS
-Walk around the lake area
-Bahnhofstrasse window shopping
-Take a train to Lucerne and buy the golden ticket, included a boat ride on Lake Lucerne, cogwheel train and tram. Then take bus back to Lucerne
-When you arrive in Lucerne you can go to the tourist office to see a live view from Mount Pilatus (Or you can check online). If it's cloudy skip the cogwheel train and just take a nice boatride and explore the town, ancient bridges, and walk on top of the old city fortress walls.




Options in the Alps

Arosa: Metropol Hotel - quaint little old hotel. Not very fancy - it's like honeymooning in your grandmother's house (HT: Mrs. Moishebatchy). The food is very basic, but delicious. Mikva on premises. If skiing is your thing, the have an agreement with one of the ski places (Härtner) not to charge Metropol customers for ski rentals over Shabbos.


Need a meal on shabbes, please PM me (Chuchem). I live 15 minute walk from the hyatt, close to chabad. Zürich has no eiruv!

Major Attractions
“Please edit the wiki to add more attractions”

Central Switzerland
-Lucerne, Pilatus Offers: Cogwheel, Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mini Zip-line and fun area
-Titlis Offers: Gondolas, Snow Tubing, Trutti Bikes, Ice Museum, Row Boating
-Brunni Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Stroll in Lake(!)

Jungfrau Region
-Jungfrau/jungfraujoch Click here for the Kosher hotel in Wengen / 360-degree panorama of Jungfraujoch-Top of Europe
-Grindelwald Offers: Gondolas, mega Zip-line, Trutti Bikes

Eastern Switzerland
-St. Moritz
Davos / Klosters
Arosa Click here for the Kosher Levins hotel

Southern Switzerland
-Zermatt - "Matterhorn"
-Saas-Fee Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mega Zip-line, Trotti Bikes, (Saas-Grund has Monster Trotteres) and on top of "Allalin" you can go Snow Tubing and Skiing even in the summer!
-Crans Montana You can email the Kosher hotel in Crans Montana Hotelmk@gmail.com  or call them at 0032485640498 or 003233011600


HalbTax Pass

A HalbTax pass (or Half Fare card) is a card designated for tourists and not for Swiss residents (officially...). The card gives you half price on all public transportation like buses, trains, trams, boats and also on "most" cable cars (attractions). There are basically 4 kinds.

1) An annual pass, the price is currently 175 francs. If i remember correctly it has a photo ID of the recipient, so double check before sharing it.
Click here for the annual pass

2) A 30 day pass, the price is currently 120 francs, it does not have a photo ID on it.
Click here or here for the 30 day pass

3) - Recommended for frequent traveling Swiss Travel Pass - you prepay a set amount per day and get unlimited for that day (plus "optional" for a fee, for 1 month including the days you chose, it is a HalbTax, even on the prepaid free days, it's only free for all transportation, on cable cars you only get half off). The price per day depends on how many days you prepay, for example if you prepay 8 days, the price per day will be about 53 francs, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 73 francs. If you are 25 y/o or younger, you can get the Youth Pass which is cheaper - If you prepay 8 days  the price per day will be about 40 francs a day, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 62 francs.
Click here (or here) for the prepaid pass

The card comes with a few days “you could chose your dates later”, officially when you want to use a certain day for the free day you should fill in on the pass that date, and when the first conductor comes he punches that day, but technically you can leave the date blank until the conductor comes, that way you have a chance if no conductor asks you for your card (happens quite often) you can save it for the next day :)

4) Swiss Transfer Ticket" This card costs 141 francs and is valid for 2 trips from and to the boarder or airport, for example you are traveling from the airport to Arosa and are not planning to go anywhere else or take any other transportation, with this card you will effectively pay 71 francs per way. This card is only valid for trips to and from the airport or boarder and no (long) stops allowed. Technically if you will travel one more day, the Swiss travel pass mentioned above will probably be cheaper.

Make sure to order your pass a few weeks before leaving, it takes about 1-3 weeks for the pass to arrive. But you can always buy it in the Airport, though you might have to wait in line and also if you want to buy the Youth pass (for 25 y/o or younger) they might ask you for proof...

There is also a family pass if you travel with a large family, I am not familiar with that.


Fast Baggage
There is a service via SBB, They deliver your luggage for you!! For example you are traveling from ZRH to Arosa, you don't want to be busy Shlepping around your luggage, You can check in your luggage in the airport and they (SBB) will deliver it to the train station in Arosa. This service is available "from and to" most train stations in Switzerland. You can ask about the Fast Baggage by any train station or read here or here

You can even buy a tag that you put on the luggage before checking in your luggage in any airport (i.e. JFK) and Rail Europe will take your luggage from the airplane in Switzerland and deliver it either to your hotel or to the train station in the city you're going to.  Read about Flight Luggage Here




PS. When doing research and getting to a website in German, just add /en (after .ch) to translate to English.
And Hey, Don't forget to write a TR ;)

Sample Itinerary for 9 hour stopover on Swiss flight from TLV to U.S. that lands at 810 and takes off around 5
Copied from @cholent:
Here it is: landed in zrh, crazy line for entering country but moved pretty quickly, about half an hour. Picked up sim in the airport. Rented car through Priceline from europecar. Drove to Titlis, stunning scenery along drive. Missed a turnoff because I couldn't get Waze to talk and I was trying to do some stuff online while we were driving, added half an hour to get there, but the stunning scenery made it worthwhile. Got there, parked, you pay at the entrance if you're going to park for more than an hour. Paid, took the cable car. Got off at there halfway station by mistake, gorgeous lake. Went back on and back up to the top. It was somewhat cloudy which was a pity. Suspension bridge was fun but no view because of the clouds. Took the ice flyer to the other peak, then went sledding down the hill, lots of fun. No tubing because there wasn't enough snow. We didn't have enough time for the ice cave because of the extra time driving there and we weren't sure where it was anyway. Made some new Israeli friends and took the cable car down with them. Got back to the airport, returning the car took less than five minutes, getting through the airport took a little longer so we didn't have time for showers at the lounge. It was amazing all around, I would definitely recommend

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1350 on: August 07, 2016, 03:38:43 AM »
Can you be more specific to the name of the hotels and links if possible.
Thanks!
More info is available in the Wiki.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1351 on: August 07, 2016, 05:44:20 AM »
What's a nice spg hotel in Zurich?
3 in zurich
sheraton zurich new but a little out of it
four points dont know much about
Sheraton Zurich Neues Schloss small business style

there are a bunch new spg by design hotels as well not in zurich

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1352 on: August 07, 2016, 07:46:49 AM »
Hi
I am traveling with 10 adults and 11 children from Zurich to st. Moritz on the wiki there was no info on the family pass for the train. Does anyone know the best/cheapest way to get there?
Thanks
Mendy
http://m.swisstravelsystem.com/en/passes/swiss-family-card.html

Will give you details on family pass. Whether adults should buy a pass or a return ticket depends on how much other use of the system you plan to make. https://www.ricksteves.com/travel-tips/transportation/trains/switzerland-rail-passes is a good source of information to work that through.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1353 on: August 07, 2016, 07:57:28 AM »
Hi
I am traveling with 10 adults and 11 children from Zurich to st. Moritz on the wiki there was no info on the family pass for the train. Does anyone know the best/cheapest way to get there?
Thanks
Mendy

It would probably be cheaper and a lot easier to get a jewish taxi guy (might need two cars or busses for this amount of people.
Here are two people that I have their numbers but there is more especially over the summer.
Mr. Meir Gutman +41796661218
Mr. Eliezer Blumenthal +41787330801

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1354 on: August 07, 2016, 08:00:56 AM »
are any of the kosher hotels in the alps open year round (primarily in october after Sukkos)

No Hotels are actually open all year round. Arosa which is run by Levin Family opens mid Nov depending on the season.
Davos is your best shot as they have a shul, kosher food all year round but don't always have a minyan and the hotel there is only open in the summer

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1355 on: August 07, 2016, 08:58:02 PM »
No Hotels are actually open all year round. Arosa which is run by Levin Family opens mid Nov depending on the season.
Davos is your best shot as they have a shul, kosher food all year round but don't always have a minyan and the hotel there is only open in the summer
Thanks! What's the name of the shul or kosher eatery in Davos?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1356 on: August 08, 2016, 05:04:49 AM »
Thanks! What's the name of the shul or kosher eatery in Davos?
There is no Kosher eatery in Davos. The Supermarket carries many Kosher products.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1357 on: August 08, 2016, 01:30:25 PM »
There is no Kosher eatery in Davos. The Supermarket carries many Kosher products.
ok. what about the shul? i couldnt find anything online.

Does it feel like Ghost Town in October?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1358 on: August 08, 2016, 02:04:58 PM »
ok. what about the shul? i couldnt find anything online.

Does it feel like Ghost Town in October?

Yes.
And there's no kosher food year round.
There's a kosher list that people use but it's just the basic, פת ישראל is only in the summer.
I was there September and musbachar said can't buy bread anymore.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1359 on: August 15, 2016, 02:27:16 PM »
Any kosher food in Luzern?
Also any suggestion what to see today if i have a few hours?
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1360 on: August 15, 2016, 08:39:17 PM »
What are the minyanim options in Lucerne?
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1361 on: August 21, 2016, 05:40:22 AM »
with wife and kid whats best way to get from airport to Park Hyatt in Zurich???

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1362 on: August 23, 2016, 06:16:52 AM »
Hi!

Thank you all - especially chuchem - for all the great information here.

My wife and I have a 12 hour stopover on our way to TLV.  Most of the posts advised going to Lucerne as it is an easy train ride and a fun/cool place to hang out for a few hours.

A friend of mine who has been to Switzerland several times insists that instead I should rent a car and drive to Davos (the train takes too long), which is about 2 hours away.  He says those are "real mountains".  I looked up the pictures on the Internet and does indeed look breathtaking, and a 2 hour drive each way with a 12 hour stopover does seem reasonable/doable, but was wondering what the real experts thought.

Is Davos really that much better than Lucerne?
Is renting a car/driving easy in Switzerland?  I know it's expensive - the price I got quoted was $120 for the day (including VAT and airport charge), but are there other large hidden fees?
We are flying Swiss Air Business Class and I know my luggage will go through to TLV, but can we leave our carry-ons in the lounge?
Is there kosher food in the Swiss Air lounge?

Thanks again!

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1363 on: August 23, 2016, 05:50:25 PM »
https://www.zurich-airport.com/passengers-and-visitors/airport-services-en/baggage-service

I don't believe there is kosher in the lounge other than fruit etc.

Hi!

Thank you all - especially chuchem - for all the great information here.

My wife and I have a 12 hour stopover on our way to TLV.  Most of the posts advised going to Lucerne as it is an easy train ride and a fun/cool place to hang out for a few hours.

A friend of mine who has been to Switzerland several times insists that instead I should rent a car and drive to Davos (the train takes too long), which is about 2 hours away.  He says those are "real mountains".  I looked up the pictures on the Internet and does indeed look breathtaking, and a 2 hour drive each way with a 12 hour stopover does seem reasonable/doable, but was wondering what the real experts thought.

Is Davos really that much better than Lucerne?
Is renting a car/driving easy in Switzerland?  I know it's expensive - the price I got quoted was $120 for the day (including VAT and airport charge), but are there other large hidden fees?
We are flying Swiss Air Business Class and I know my luggage will go through to TLV, but can we leave our carry-ons in the lounge?
Is there kosher food in the Swiss Air lounge?

Thanks again!

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1364 on: September 01, 2016, 12:01:13 AM »
I will be in geneva from a thursday until a sunday.  Where do you suggest we visit.  Where can we go without a car on a day trip? What is the deal with kosher food.  Any recommendations for places to daven on Shabbat?