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Zurich
HOTELS
-The Park Hyatt is fantastic and a 10 minute walk to shul.
Tram stop: Stockerstrasse

RESTAURANTS

Meat:

Olive Garden - Located inside he JCC
Tram stop: Bahnhof Enge


Milk/Parve:

Fein und Schein - cafe type of place; ambience lacking, but hey, food is food

Bagels and Co.  (Bederstrasse corner Klopstockstrasse 8002 Zürich) Tram Stop "Waffenplatzstrasse"

Books & Bagels - combination bagel shop and judaica store

Bakery:

ATTRACTIONS
-Walk around the lake area
-Bahnhofstrasse window shopping
-Take a train to Lucerne and buy the golden ticket, included a boat ride on Lake Lucerne, cogwheel train and tram. Then take bus back to Lucerne
-When you arrive in Lucerne you can go to the tourist office to see a live view from Mount Pilatus (Or you can check online). If it's cloudy skip the cogwheel train and just take a nice boatride and explore the town, ancient bridges, and walk on top of the old city fortress walls.




Options in the Alps

Arosa: Metropol Hotel - quaint little old hotel. Not very fancy - it's like honeymooning in your grandmother's house (HT: Mrs. Moishebatchy). The food is very basic, but delicious. Mikva on premises. If skiing is your thing, the have an agreement with one of the ski places (Härtner) not to charge Metropol customers for ski rentals over Shabbos.


Need a meal on shabbes, please PM me (Chuchem). I live 15 minute walk from the hyatt, close to chabad. Zürich has no eiruv!

Major Attractions
“Please edit the wiki to add more attractions”

Central Switzerland
-Lucerne, Pilatus Offers: Cogwheel, Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mini Zip-line and fun area
-Titlis Offers: Gondolas, Snow Tubing, Trutti Bikes, Ice Museum, Row Boating
-Brunni Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Stroll in Lake(!)

Jungfrau Region
-Jungfrau/jungfraujoch Click here for the Kosher hotel in Wengen / 360-degree panorama of Jungfraujoch-Top of Europe
-Grindelwald Offers: Gondolas, mega Zip-line, Trutti Bikes

Eastern Switzerland
-St. Moritz
Davos / Klosters
Arosa Click here for the Kosher Levins hotel

Southern Switzerland
-Zermatt - "Matterhorn"
-Saas-Fee Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mega Zip-line, Trotti Bikes, (Saas-Grund has Monster Trotteres) and on top of "Allalin" you can go Snow Tubing and Skiing even in the summer!
-Crans Montana You can email the Kosher hotel in Crans Montana Hotelmk@gmail.com  or call them at 0032485640498 or 003233011600


HalbTax Pass

A HalbTax pass (or Half Fare card) is a card designated for tourists and not for Swiss residents (officially...). The card gives you half price on all public transportation like buses, trains, trams, boats and also on "most" cable cars (attractions). There are basically 4 kinds.

1) An annual pass, the price is currently 175 francs. If i remember correctly it has a photo ID of the recipient, so double check before sharing it.
Click here for the annual pass

2) A 30 day pass, the price is currently 120 francs, it does not have a photo ID on it.
Click here or here for the 30 day pass

3) - Recommended for frequent traveling Swiss Travel Pass - you prepay a set amount per day and get unlimited for that day (plus "optional" for a fee, for 1 month including the days you chose, it is a HalbTax, even on the prepaid free days, it's only free for all transportation, on cable cars you only get half off). The price per day depends on how many days you prepay, for example if you prepay 8 days, the price per day will be about 53 francs, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 73 francs. If you are 25 y/o or younger, you can get the Youth Pass which is cheaper - If you prepay 8 days  the price per day will be about 40 francs a day, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 62 francs.
Click here (or here) for the prepaid pass

The card comes with a few days “you could chose your dates later”, officially when you want to use a certain day for the free day you should fill in on the pass that date, and when the first conductor comes he punches that day, but technically you can leave the date blank until the conductor comes, that way you have a chance if no conductor asks you for your card (happens quite often) you can save it for the next day :)

4) Swiss Transfer Ticket" This card costs 141 francs and is valid for 2 trips from and to the boarder or airport, for example you are traveling from the airport to Arosa and are not planning to go anywhere else or take any other transportation, with this card you will effectively pay 71 francs per way. This card is only valid for trips to and from the airport or boarder and no (long) stops allowed. Technically if you will travel one more day, the Swiss travel pass mentioned above will probably be cheaper.

Make sure to order your pass a few weeks before leaving, it takes about 1-3 weeks for the pass to arrive. But you can always buy it in the Airport, though you might have to wait in line and also if you want to buy the Youth pass (for 25 y/o or younger) they might ask you for proof...

There is also a family pass if you travel with a large family, I am not familiar with that.


Fast Baggage
There is a service via SBB, They deliver your luggage for you!! For example you are traveling from ZRH to Arosa, you don't want to be busy Shlepping around your luggage, You can check in your luggage in the airport and they (SBB) will deliver it to the train station in Arosa. This service is available "from and to" most train stations in Switzerland. You can ask about the Fast Baggage by any train station or read here or here

You can even buy a tag that you put on the luggage before checking in your luggage in any airport (i.e. JFK) and Rail Europe will take your luggage from the airplane in Switzerland and deliver it either to your hotel or to the train station in the city you're going to.  Read about Flight Luggage Here




PS. When doing research and getting to a website in German, just add /en (after .ch) to translate to English.
And Hey, Don't forget to write a TR ;)

Sample Itinerary for 9 hour stopover on Swiss flight from TLV to U.S. that lands at 810 and takes off around 5
Copied from @cholent:
Here it is: landed in zrh, crazy line for entering country but moved pretty quickly, about half an hour. Picked up sim in the airport. Rented car through Priceline from europecar. Drove to Titlis, stunning scenery along drive. Missed a turnoff because I couldn't get Waze to talk and I was trying to do some stuff online while we were driving, added half an hour to get there, but the stunning scenery made it worthwhile. Got there, parked, you pay at the entrance if you're going to park for more than an hour. Paid, took the cable car. Got off at there halfway station by mistake, gorgeous lake. Went back on and back up to the top. It was somewhat cloudy which was a pity. Suspension bridge was fun but no view because of the clouds. Took the ice flyer to the other peak, then went sledding down the hill, lots of fun. No tubing because there wasn't enough snow. We didn't have enough time for the ice cave because of the extra time driving there and we weren't sure where it was anyway. Made some new Israeli friends and took the cable car down with them. Got back to the airport, returning the car took less than five minutes, getting through the airport took a little longer so we didn't have time for showers at the lounge. It was amazing all around, I would definitely recommend

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1635 on: July 14, 2017, 08:36:52 AM »
Looks like I'm ending up in the beyond-magnificent Saas Fee.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1636 on: July 14, 2017, 01:12:56 PM »
Looks like I'm ending up in the beyond-magnificent Saas Fee.
So am I. Looking for someone who was there in the summer. PM me if you were, willing to pay something.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1637 on: July 14, 2017, 03:52:23 PM »
I wasn't.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1638 on: July 17, 2017, 07:10:22 PM »
I see there was a discussion about the SBB luggage service..
Is it still possible to check in the Luggage in NYC and LX will take care of the domestic transfer?
or will need to shlep it to the station in the airport?
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1639 on: July 17, 2017, 07:33:40 PM »
I have a 12 hour stopover in Zurich mid August landing around 6am local time. What would be the best alps to see in that time frame? I would rent a car or take train whichever makes more sense.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1640 on: July 17, 2017, 10:54:45 PM »
I see there was a discussion about the SBB luggage service..
Is it still possible to check in the Luggage in NYC and LX will take care of the domestic transfer?
or will need to shlep it to the station in the airport?

looks like you can only do it originating from ZRH to a different airport (and not necessarily directly to all other airports - you have to check here and enter your flight numbers https://www.sbb.ch/en/iframes/door-to-door-flight-luggage.html).

read the discussion on page 109 of this topic.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1641 on: July 18, 2017, 12:52:43 AM »
looks like you can only do it originating from ZRH to a different airport (and not necessarily directly to all other airports - you have to check here and enter your flight numbers https://www.sbb.ch/en/iframes/door-to-door-flight-luggage.html).

read the discussion on page 109 of this topic.
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1642 on: July 18, 2017, 03:51:16 AM »
I have a 12 hour stopover in Zurich mid August landing around 6am local time. What would be the best alps to see in that time frame? I would rent a car or take train whichever makes more sense.

Best bet is to head straight to Engelberg and go to Mount Titlis. http://wikitravel.org/en/Mount_Titlis On your return to Zürich, you can stop in Luzern, and do some exploring there, and take a boat ride.  http://wikitravel.org/en/Luzern http://www.luzern.com/en/boat-trips  http://www.myswissalps.com/boatlakelucerne

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1643 on: July 18, 2017, 09:42:30 AM »
I have a 12 hour stopover in Zurich mid August landing around 6am local time. What would be the best alps to see in that time frame? I would rent a car or take train whichever makes more sense.
We did Mt. Rigi which is also by Lucerne. They had something called a Golden Circle ticket (or something like that) which gave you access to the cog wheel that goes up and down the mountain.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1644 on: July 18, 2017, 11:02:39 AM »
We did Mt. Rigi which is also by Lucerne. They had something called a Golden Circle ticket (or something like that) which gave you access to the cog wheel that goes up and down the mountain.


Is the weather a factor in August up on the mountains?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1645 on: July 18, 2017, 11:21:02 AM »
Best bet is to head straight to Engelberg and go to Mount Titlis. http://wikitravel.org/en/Mount_Titlis On your return to Zürich, you can stop in Luzern, and do some exploring there, and take a boat ride.  http://wikitravel.org/en/Luzern http://www.luzern.com/en/boat-trips  http://www.myswissalps.com/boatlakelucerne

Thanks for the info. Any idea what the differences are between mt Titlis, mt Rigi and mt Pilatus?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1646 on: July 18, 2017, 11:39:24 AM »
I have a 12 hour stopover in Zurich mid August landing around 6am local time. What would be the best alps to see in that time frame? I would rent a car or take train whichever makes more sense.

I did Uetliberg mountain with a similar time frame. You can take a train most of the way up from the central Zurich train station.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1647 on: July 18, 2017, 12:23:51 PM »
Thanks for the info. Any idea what the differences are between mt Titlis, mt Rigi and mt Pilatus?

http://myswissalps.com/rigi
http://myswissalps.com/pilatus
http://myswissalps.com/titlis

They are different -- And Mt. Titlis is the highest of them all. (3,238m (10,623ft))
Pilatus does not have a glacier,  and it's lower altitude   (2,128 m (6,982 ft))
Rigi is preferred by most, because of the great views, and hiking options (1,797.5 m (5,897 ft))

Üetliberg is just a hill offering panoramic views of Zürich - 20 min from the main train station. (870m (2,850 ft))
Note, Zürich city elevation is at 408 m (1,339 ft)

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1648 on: July 18, 2017, 12:34:21 PM »


Is the weather a factor in August up on the mountains?
I only had 1 chance, and it was extremely cloudy. Couldn't see anything once we got up past a certain height. What can you do?

http://myswissalps.com/rigi
http://myswissalps.com/pilatus
http://myswissalps.com/titlis

They are different -- And Mt. Titlis is the highest of them all. (3,238m (10,623ft))
Pilatus does not have a glacier,  and it's lower altitude   (2,128 m (6,982 ft))
Rigi is preferred by most, because of the great views, and hiking options (1,797.5 m (5,897 ft))

Üetliberg is just a hill offering panoramic views of Zürich - 20 min from the main train station. (870m (2,850 ft))
Note, Zürich city elevation is at 408 m (1,339 ft)

Did not realize they are so short! Been on taller mountains in CO without even realizing it.

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« Reply #1649 on: July 18, 2017, 12:50:23 PM »
I only had 1 chance, and it was extremely cloudy. Couldn't see anything once we got up past a certain height. What can you do?
Did not realize they are so short! Been on taller mountains in CO without even realizing it.

There are higher peaks in Switzerland, e.g. see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest_mountains_of_Switzerland,
just for a 12-hour layover, the ones I posted would be more practical.