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Zurich
HOTELS
-The Park Hyatt is fantastic and a 10 minute walk to shul.
Tram stop: Stockerstrasse

RESTAURANTS

Meat:

Olive Garden - Located inside he JCC
Tram stop: Bahnhof Enge


Milk/Parve:

Fein und Schein - cafe type of place; ambience lacking, but hey, food is food

Bagels and Co.  (Bederstrasse corner Klopstockstrasse 8002 Zürich) Tram Stop "Waffenplatzstrasse"

Books & Bagels - combination bagel shop and judaica store

Bakery:

ATTRACTIONS
-Walk around the lake area
-Bahnhofstrasse window shopping
-Take a train to Lucerne and buy the golden ticket, included a boat ride on Lake Lucerne, cogwheel train and tram. Then take bus back to Lucerne
-When you arrive in Lucerne you can go to the tourist office to see a live view from Mount Pilatus (Or you can check online). If it's cloudy skip the cogwheel train and just take a nice boatride and explore the town, ancient bridges, and walk on top of the old city fortress walls.




Options in the Alps

Arosa: Metropol Hotel - quaint little old hotel. Not very fancy - it's like honeymooning in your grandmother's house (HT: Mrs. Moishebatchy). The food is very basic, but delicious. Mikva on premises. If skiing is your thing, the have an agreement with one of the ski places (Härtner) not to charge Metropol customers for ski rentals over Shabbos.


Need a meal on shabbes, please PM me (Chuchem). I live 15 minute walk from the hyatt, close to chabad. Zürich has no eiruv!

Major Attractions
“Please edit the wiki to add more attractions”

Central Switzerland
-Lucerne, Pilatus Offers: Cogwheel, Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mini Zip-line and fun area
-Titlis Offers: Gondolas, Snow Tubing, Trutti Bikes, Ice Museum, Row Boating
-Brunni Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Stroll in Lake(!)

Jungfrau Region
-Jungfrau/jungfraujoch Click here for the Kosher hotel in Wengen / 360-degree panorama of Jungfraujoch-Top of Europe
-Grindelwald Offers: Gondolas, mega Zip-line, Trutti Bikes

Eastern Switzerland
-St. Moritz
Davos / Klosters
Arosa Click here for the Kosher Levins hotel

Southern Switzerland
-Zermatt - "Matterhorn"
-Saas-Fee Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mega Zip-line, Trotti Bikes, (Saas-Grund has Monster Trotteres) and on top of "Allalin" you can go Snow Tubing and Skiing even in the summer!
-Crans Montana You can email the Kosher hotel in Crans Montana Hotelmk@gmail.com  or call them at 0032485640498 or 003233011600


HalbTax Pass

A HalbTax pass (or Half Fare card) is a card designated for tourists and not for Swiss residents (officially...). The card gives you half price on all public transportation like buses, trains, trams, boats and also on "most" cable cars (attractions). There are basically 4 kinds.

1) An annual pass, the price is currently 175 francs. If i remember correctly it has a photo ID of the recipient, so double check before sharing it.
Click here for the annual pass

2) A 30 day pass, the price is currently 120 francs, it does not have a photo ID on it.
Click here or here for the 30 day pass

3) - Recommended for frequent traveling Swiss Travel Pass - you prepay a set amount per day and get unlimited for that day (plus "optional" for a fee, for 1 month including the days you chose, it is a HalbTax, even on the prepaid free days, it's only free for all transportation, on cable cars you only get half off). The price per day depends on how many days you prepay, for example if you prepay 8 days, the price per day will be about 53 francs, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 73 francs. If you are 25 y/o or younger, you can get the Youth Pass which is cheaper - If you prepay 8 days  the price per day will be about 40 francs a day, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 62 francs.
Click here (or here) for the prepaid pass

The card comes with a few days “you could chose your dates later”, officially when you want to use a certain day for the free day you should fill in on the pass that date, and when the first conductor comes he punches that day, but technically you can leave the date blank until the conductor comes, that way you have a chance if no conductor asks you for your card (happens quite often) you can save it for the next day :)

4) Swiss Transfer Ticket" This card costs 141 francs and is valid for 2 trips from and to the boarder or airport, for example you are traveling from the airport to Arosa and are not planning to go anywhere else or take any other transportation, with this card you will effectively pay 71 francs per way. This card is only valid for trips to and from the airport or boarder and no (long) stops allowed. Technically if you will travel one more day, the Swiss travel pass mentioned above will probably be cheaper.

Make sure to order your pass a few weeks before leaving, it takes about 1-3 weeks for the pass to arrive. But you can always buy it in the Airport, though you might have to wait in line and also if you want to buy the Youth pass (for 25 y/o or younger) they might ask you for proof...

There is also a family pass if you travel with a large family, I am not familiar with that.


Fast Baggage
There is a service via SBB, They deliver your luggage for you!! For example you are traveling from ZRH to Arosa, you don't want to be busy Shlepping around your luggage, You can check in your luggage in the airport and they (SBB) will deliver it to the train station in Arosa. This service is available "from and to" most train stations in Switzerland. You can ask about the Fast Baggage by any train station or read here or here

You can even buy a tag that you put on the luggage before checking in your luggage in any airport (i.e. JFK) and Rail Europe will take your luggage from the airplane in Switzerland and deliver it either to your hotel or to the train station in the city you're going to.  Read about Flight Luggage Here




PS. When doing research and getting to a website in German, just add /en (after .ch) to translate to English.
And Hey, Don't forget to write a TR ;)

Sample Itinerary for 9 hour stopover on Swiss flight from TLV to U.S. that lands at 810 and takes off around 5
Copied from @cholent:
Here it is: landed in zrh, crazy line for entering country but moved pretty quickly, about half an hour. Picked up sim in the airport. Rented car through Priceline from europecar. Drove to Titlis, stunning scenery along drive. Missed a turnoff because I couldn't get Waze to talk and I was trying to do some stuff online while we were driving, added half an hour to get there, but the stunning scenery made it worthwhile. Got there, parked, you pay at the entrance if you're going to park for more than an hour. Paid, took the cable car. Got off at there halfway station by mistake, gorgeous lake. Went back on and back up to the top. It was somewhat cloudy which was a pity. Suspension bridge was fun but no view because of the clouds. Took the ice flyer to the other peak, then went sledding down the hill, lots of fun. No tubing because there wasn't enough snow. We didn't have enough time for the ice cave because of the extra time driving there and we weren't sure where it was anyway. Made some new Israeli friends and took the cable car down with them. Got back to the airport, returning the car took less than five minutes, getting through the airport took a little longer so we didn't have time for showers at the lounge. It was amazing all around, I would definitely recommend

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1860 on: November 19, 2017, 10:59:07 PM »
Like?
Read last few pages. Chulent's trip etc. Either Lucerne for Rigi or Pilatus, or Titlis.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1861 on: November 20, 2017, 07:00:46 AM »
If he has 11 hours why shouldn't he see some real mountains, and not just a small hill?
Also would be time to see rest of city. I did Utliberg on an 11 hr stopover because I didn't want to spend the day travelling. I could have seen bigger mountain, but instead saw it and the old city, a museum etc, and didn't feel rushed.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1862 on: November 20, 2017, 11:01:27 AM »
Read last few pages. Chulent's trip etc. Either Lucerne for Rigi or Pilatus, or Titlis.
So the question was if it made sense in December

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1863 on: November 20, 2017, 01:05:17 PM »
Ended up spending time in the city as it was cloudy and wasn't sure the views would be worth it.  Went to the milchig place mein Fein something. Got the spinach pasta someone else got the tomato one and a 3rd  got pumpkin soup. Everyone said it was filling and tasted great! Pizza looked really really good. Gonna post more details in the Southwest TR I am in middle of.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1864 on: November 20, 2017, 06:56:26 PM »
Also would be time to see rest of city. I did Utliberg on an 11 hr stopover because I didn't want to spend the day travelling. I could have seen bigger mountain, but instead saw it and the old city, a museum etc, and didn't feel rushed.
Were you ever anywhere else in Switzerland? Or just Uetliberg? I don't think it comes close to what a real Swiss mountain with views is. Obviously, if the weather is not good, then there's no point going, and you may as well check out the city, but if it is, then that's what you go to Switzerland for. You don't go to see old buildings etc.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1865 on: December 12, 2017, 02:21:56 PM »
Have about something like 1 pm to 9 pm on a stopover.  Worth it to try Engelberg / Titlis?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1866 on: December 12, 2017, 02:35:50 PM »
I think so it's amazing you can try out the Cliff Walk there https://www.titlis.ch/en/activity/detail/TITLIS_Cliff_Walk/4485/60707

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1867 on: December 14, 2017, 01:03:11 AM »
I am considering going to Switzerland this winter but i have no clue where to start. I want one of those hotels that have the outdoor jacuzzi. :)  which city should i consider?
 Other things I want is the views, train rides, sledding,  maybe some small skiing etc.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1868 on: December 14, 2017, 01:42:54 AM »
I got 2 speeding tickets from my stopover in Switzerland. What happens if I ignore them?
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1869 on: December 14, 2017, 02:30:14 AM »
I got 2 speeding tickets from my stopover in Switzerland. What happens if I ignore them?
Nothing, I got several in Norway during the last few years, and I go back every year without any problem.
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1870 on: December 14, 2017, 04:57:51 AM »
I got 2 speeding tickets from my stopover in Switzerland. What happens if I ignore them?

Ime if you ever travel through Switzerland again, they will detain you in the airport and tell you you're not going anywhere until you pay;)
They're very on top of their game.
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1871 on: December 14, 2017, 08:02:29 AM »
Ime if you ever travel through Switzerland again, they will detain you in the airport and tell you you're not going anywhere until you pay;)
They're very on top of their game.

And the fine jumps with $100 CHF after a month or so. Pay the fine and get over with it. I was able to call Stadt Zurich and pay via CC.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1872 on: December 14, 2017, 08:12:50 AM »
Pay your fines in Switzerland, as they will detain you at airport next time and will cost much more and the chances of you missing your flight because of that is also there,,,,

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1873 on: December 14, 2017, 10:42:22 AM »
I am considering going to Switzerland this winter but i have no clue where to start. I want one of those hotels that have the outdoor jacuzzi. :)  which city should i consider?
 Other things I want is the views, train rides, sledding,  maybe some small skiing etc.
bump   anyone?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1874 on: December 14, 2017, 12:28:16 PM »
bump   anyone?
If you want bookable with SPG points, try the Cambrian hotel in Adelboden. Should be beautiful. It's in a very mountainous area. So should be a lot of activities. Near Grindelvald. Jungfrau.
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