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Zurich
HOTELS
-The Park Hyatt is fantastic and a 10 minute walk to shul.
Tram stop: Stockerstrasse

RESTAURANTS

Meat:

Olive Garden - Located inside he JCC
Tram stop: Bahnhof Enge


Milk/Parve:

Fein und Schein - cafe type of place; ambience lacking, but hey, food is food

Bagels and Co.  (Bederstrasse corner Klopstockstrasse 8002 Zürich) Tram Stop "Waffenplatzstrasse"

Books & Bagels - combination bagel shop and judaica store

Bakery:

ATTRACTIONS
-Walk around the lake area
-Bahnhofstrasse window shopping
-Take a train to Lucerne and buy the golden ticket, included a boat ride on Lake Lucerne, cogwheel train and tram. Then take bus back to Lucerne
-When you arrive in Lucerne you can go to the tourist office to see a live view from Mount Pilatus (Or you can check online). If it's cloudy skip the cogwheel train and just take a nice boatride and explore the town, ancient bridges, and walk on top of the old city fortress walls.




Options in the Alps

Arosa: Metropol Hotel - quaint little old hotel. Not very fancy - it's like honeymooning in your grandmother's house (HT: Mrs. Moishebatchy). The food is very basic, but delicious. Mikva on premises. If skiing is your thing, the have an agreement with one of the ski places (Härtner) not to charge Metropol customers for ski rentals over Shabbos.


Need a meal on shabbes, please PM me (Chuchem). I live 15 minute walk from the hyatt, close to chabad. Zürich has no eiruv!

Major Attractions
“Please edit the wiki to add more attractions”

Central Switzerland
-Lucerne, Pilatus Offers: Cogwheel, Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mini Zip-line and fun area
-Titlis Offers: Gondolas, Snow Tubing, Trutti Bikes, Ice Museum, Row Boating
-Brunni Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Stroll in Lake(!)

Jungfrau Region
-Jungfrau/jungfraujoch Click here for the Kosher hotel in Wengen / 360-degree panorama of Jungfraujoch-Top of Europe
-Grindelwald Offers: Gondolas, mega Zip-line, Trutti Bikes

Eastern Switzerland
-St. Moritz
Davos / Klosters
Arosa Click here for the Kosher Levins hotel

Southern Switzerland
-Zermatt - "Matterhorn"
-Saas-Fee Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mega Zip-line, Trotti Bikes, (Saas-Grund has Monster Trotteres) and on top of "Allalin" you can go Snow Tubing and Skiing even in the summer!
-Crans Montana You can email the Kosher hotel in Crans Montana Hotelmk@gmail.com  or call them at 0032485640498 or 003233011600


HalbTax Pass

A HalbTax pass (or Half Fare card) is a card designated for tourists and not for Swiss residents (officially...). The card gives you half price on all public transportation like buses, trains, trams, boats and also on "most" cable cars (attractions). There are basically 4 kinds.

1) An annual pass, the price is currently 175 francs. If i remember correctly it has a photo ID of the recipient, so double check before sharing it.
Click here for the annual pass

2) A 30 day pass, the price is currently 120 francs, it does not have a photo ID on it.
Click here or here for the 30 day pass

3) - Recommended for frequent traveling Swiss Travel Pass - you prepay a set amount per day and get unlimited for that day (plus "optional" for a fee, for 1 month including the days you chose, it is a HalbTax, even on the prepaid free days, it's only free for all transportation, on cable cars you only get half off). The price per day depends on how many days you prepay, for example if you prepay 8 days, the price per day will be about 53 francs, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 73 francs. If you are 25 y/o or younger, you can get the Youth Pass which is cheaper - If you prepay 8 days  the price per day will be about 40 francs a day, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 62 francs.
Click here (or here) for the prepaid pass

The card comes with a few days “you could chose your dates later”, officially when you want to use a certain day for the free day you should fill in on the pass that date, and when the first conductor comes he punches that day, but technically you can leave the date blank until the conductor comes, that way you have a chance if no conductor asks you for your card (happens quite often) you can save it for the next day :)

4) Swiss Transfer Ticket" This card costs 141 francs and is valid for 2 trips from and to the boarder or airport, for example you are traveling from the airport to Arosa and are not planning to go anywhere else or take any other transportation, with this card you will effectively pay 71 francs per way. This card is only valid for trips to and from the airport or boarder and no (long) stops allowed. Technically if you will travel one more day, the Swiss travel pass mentioned above will probably be cheaper.

Make sure to order your pass a few weeks before leaving, it takes about 1-3 weeks for the pass to arrive. But you can always buy it in the Airport, though you might have to wait in line and also if you want to buy the Youth pass (for 25 y/o or younger) they might ask you for proof...

There is also a family pass if you travel with a large family, I am not familiar with that.


Fast Baggage
There is a service via SBB, They deliver your luggage for you!! For example you are traveling from ZRH to Arosa, you don't want to be busy Shlepping around your luggage, You can check in your luggage in the airport and they (SBB) will deliver it to the train station in Arosa. This service is available "from and to" most train stations in Switzerland. You can ask about the Fast Baggage by any train station or read here or here

You can even buy a tag that you put on the luggage before checking in your luggage in any airport (i.e. JFK) and Rail Europe will take your luggage from the airplane in Switzerland and deliver it either to your hotel or to the train station in the city you're going to.  Read about Flight Luggage Here




PS. When doing research and getting to a website in German, just add /en (after .ch) to translate to English.
And Hey, Don't forget to write a TR ;)

Sample Itinerary for 9 hour stopover on Swiss flight from TLV to U.S. that lands at 810 and takes off around 5
Copied from @cholent:
Here it is: landed in zrh, crazy line for entering country but moved pretty quickly, about half an hour. Picked up sim in the airport. Rented car through Priceline from europecar. Drove to Titlis, stunning scenery along drive. Missed a turnoff because I couldn't get Waze to talk and I was trying to do some stuff online while we were driving, added half an hour to get there, but the stunning scenery made it worthwhile. Got there, parked, you pay at the entrance if you're going to park for more than an hour. Paid, took the cable car. Got off at there halfway station by mistake, gorgeous lake. Went back on and back up to the top. It was somewhat cloudy which was a pity. Suspension bridge was fun but no view because of the clouds. Took the ice flyer to the other peak, then went sledding down the hill, lots of fun. No tubing because there wasn't enough snow. We didn't have enough time for the ice cave because of the extra time driving there and we weren't sure where it was anyway. Made some new Israeli friends and took the cable car down with them. Got back to the airport, returning the car took less than five minutes, getting through the airport took a little longer so we didn't have time for showers at the lounge. It was amazing all around, I would definitely recommend

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1935 on: May 08, 2018, 03:06:06 PM »
No. I don't know of any European city (besides Venice with an Eirev)
Gibraltar has one
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1936 on: May 09, 2018, 03:08:12 PM »
Gibraltar has one
As does London (at least 6), Manchester, Vienna, Amsterdam, Antwerp, Strasbourg..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_places_with_eruvin


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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1937 on: May 16, 2018, 03:54:03 AM »
parve on this list
http://www.irgz.ch/downloads/koscherliste_aktuell.pdf

non cholov yisroel on this list
http://www.icz.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Kaschrutliste_20170802.pdf

Need to know for sure if the torino chocolate bars served in the kosher tray at zrh aspire lounge is takeh kosher and cy, not marked at all. @Moishebatchy ?
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1938 on: May 16, 2018, 04:41:26 PM »
Hi there all,
I made a United Rewards ticket to Zurich for a few days on the way to Israel. It stops in GVA. After some research we decided to stay in a place in Villars which is much closer to GVA than ZRH. I can't just skip the leg due to my luggage. Any way I can get around the change fee from United? Any other ideas for that matter?     ???

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1939 on: May 23, 2018, 05:02:28 PM »
Can anyone suggest (from your experience) a good place to stay for shabbos in the swiss alps? I know there are a few options, kosher hotels in Davos, Arosa etc. Just trying to see what the best option would be...

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1940 on: May 23, 2018, 05:11:47 PM »
Can anyone suggest (from your experience) a good place to stay for shabbos in the swiss alps? I know there are a few options, kosher hotels in Davos, Arosa etc. Just trying to see what the best option would be...

I was in Crans montana I relay enjoyed it

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1941 on: May 24, 2018, 07:42:13 AM »
Any opinions on whats better; Davos or Arosa.. Thanx!

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1942 on: May 24, 2018, 09:31:47 AM »
Any opinions on whats better; Davos or Arosa.. Thanx!
Davos is my preference.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1943 on: June 03, 2018, 09:19:19 AM »
If I arrive at BSL airport at 13:25, would I have enough time to make it up Pilatus in Luzern?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1944 on: June 03, 2018, 12:58:53 PM »
I was in Crans montana I relay enjoyed it

Crans Montana at Meir Klien hotel will be your cheapest option, and I enjoyed very much.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1945 on: June 03, 2018, 02:34:49 PM »
Crans Montana at Meir Klien hotel will be your cheapest option, and I enjoyed very much.
they have a 7 day minimum stay...

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1946 on: June 03, 2018, 02:36:40 PM »
they have a 7 day minimum stay...

Maybe just in the summer.
I was there a few times in the winter.
Good to know, thanks.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1947 on: June 04, 2018, 02:04:49 AM »
If I arrive at BSL airport at 13:25, would I have enough time to make it up Pilatus in Luzern?
Very tight most Alps close the lifts (last return cable car) between 4:30-5pm you can however just see the city of Luzern lake etc.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1948 on: June 04, 2018, 02:27:28 PM »
finished reading the almost 2,000 posts.
however i didnt see this answered -

does it make more sense to rent a car or take trains.
I'm leaning towards renting as i'm traveling with 4 kids for 3-4 days as part of a larger trip, so lots of luggage, stroller, carseat...
seems like a lot to lug around trains and transfers.

however financially, is it worth it?
we wouldnt be paying for the swiss passes, however how much are the cable cars up to the mountain once we get to our destinations?

what about the car free cities - is there a place to park for the day?

in general, does the half off card or the swiss pass or the one where you need to be a resident to buy, do they cut costs towards the cable cars for the "big mountains" like Titlis, Brunni, Mount Pilatus....

thank you

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1949 on: June 04, 2018, 03:46:56 PM »
finished reading the almost 2,000 posts.
however i didnt see this answered -

does it make more sense to rent a car or take trains.
I'm leaning towards renting as i'm traveling with 4 kids for 3-4 days as part of a larger trip, so lots of luggage, stroller, carseat...
seems like a lot to lug around trains and transfers.

however financially, is it worth it?
we wouldnt be paying for the swiss passes, however how much are the cable cars up to the mountain once we get to our destinations?

what about the car free cities - is there a place to park for the day?

in general, does the half off card or the swiss pass or the one where you need to be a resident to buy, do they cut costs towards the cable cars for the "big mountains" like Titlis, Brunni, Mount Pilatus....

thank you

Here is a car rental tip: One can find better prices renting in Germany, i.e. German airport -- however, the car would need to be returned in Germany, else there would be an expensive one-way fee. So, one can return the car in Singen, which is easily accessible by train and is about 74km away from the Zurich airport.

Car-free cities? There are no car-free cities, but there are eight or so villages in the Alps that are car-free, but they all have a designated place where one can park like Saas Fee has a large parking station with 7 floors at the town entrance, parking for Wengen is in Lauterbrunnen, etc. The half card, anybody can buy -- but generally is sold for 1-3 year terms. The discounts are on the following cable cars: https://www.myswissalps.com/swisshalffarecard/validity

As far as cable car costs, you can find more info at https://www.myswissalps.com/activities/naturalsites/mountains

-- As far as if it's financially worth it -- it could be cheaper then paying for all the train tickets -- but driving in Switzerland, requires to be always aware of the speed limit and your speed -- speed cameras are everywhere & the fines are quite hefty. http://www.speedingeurope.com/switzerland     And treat solid white lines on the road as brick walls, as crossing them would be another expensive fine. And pay attention as sometimes they have them right before a traffic light/interchange (ie solid white line that separates the right turning lane and the middle lane)-- you have to switch lanes well before the intersection.
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