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Zurich
HOTELS
-The Park Hyatt is fantastic and a 10 minute walk to shul.
Tram stop: Stockerstrasse

RESTAURANTS

Meat:

Olive Garden - Located inside he JCC
Tram stop: Bahnhof Enge


Milk/Parve:

Fein und Schein - cafe type of place; ambience lacking, but hey, food is food

Bagels and Co.  (Bederstrasse corner Klopstockstrasse 8002 Zürich) Tram Stop "Waffenplatzstrasse"

Books & Bagels - combination bagel shop and judaica store

Bakery:

ATTRACTIONS
-Walk around the lake area
-Bahnhofstrasse window shopping
-Take a train to Lucerne and buy the golden ticket, included a boat ride on Lake Lucerne, cogwheel train and tram. Then take bus back to Lucerne
-When you arrive in Lucerne you can go to the tourist office to see a live view from Mount Pilatus (Or you can check online). If it's cloudy skip the cogwheel train and just take a nice boatride and explore the town, ancient bridges, and walk on top of the old city fortress walls.




Options in the Alps

Arosa: Metropol Hotel - quaint little old hotel. Not very fancy - it's like honeymooning in your grandmother's house (HT: Mrs. Moishebatchy). The food is very basic, but delicious. Mikva on premises. If skiing is your thing, the have an agreement with one of the ski places (Härtner) not to charge Metropol customers for ski rentals over Shabbos.


Need a meal on shabbes, please PM me (Chuchem). I live 15 minute walk from the hyatt, close to chabad. Zürich has no eiruv!

Major Attractions
“Please edit the wiki to add more attractions”

Central Switzerland
-Lucerne, Pilatus Offers: Cogwheel, Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mini Zip-line and fun area
-Titlis Offers: Gondolas, Snow Tubing, Trutti Bikes, Ice Museum, Row Boating
-Brunni Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Stroll in Lake(!)

Jungfrau Region
-Jungfrau/jungfraujoch Click here for the Kosher hotel in Wengen / 360-degree panorama of Jungfraujoch-Top of Europe
-Grindelwald Offers: Gondolas, mega Zip-line, Trutti Bikes

Eastern Switzerland
-St. Moritz
Davos / Klosters
Arosa Click here for the Kosher Levins hotel

Southern Switzerland
-Zermatt - "Matterhorn"
-Saas-Fee Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mega Zip-line, Trotti Bikes, (Saas-Grund has Monster Trotteres) and on top of "Allalin" you can go Snow Tubing and Skiing even in the summer!
-Crans Montana You can email the Kosher hotel in Crans Montana Hotelmk@gmail.com  or call them at 0032485640498 or 003233011600


HalbTax Pass

A HalbTax pass (or Half Fare card) is a card designated for tourists and not for Swiss residents (officially...). The card gives you half price on all public transportation like buses, trains, trams, boats and also on "most" cable cars (attractions). There are basically 4 kinds.

1) An annual pass, the price is currently 175 francs. If i remember correctly it has a photo ID of the recipient, so double check before sharing it.
Click here for the annual pass

2) A 30 day pass, the price is currently 120 francs, it does not have a photo ID on it.
Click here or here for the 30 day pass

3) - Recommended for frequent traveling Swiss Travel Pass - you prepay a set amount per day and get unlimited for that day (plus "optional" for a fee, for 1 month including the days you chose, it is a HalbTax, even on the prepaid free days, it's only free for all transportation, on cable cars you only get half off). The price per day depends on how many days you prepay, for example if you prepay 8 days, the price per day will be about 53 francs, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 73 francs. If you are 25 y/o or younger, you can get the Youth Pass which is cheaper - If you prepay 8 days  the price per day will be about 40 francs a day, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 62 francs.
Click here (or here) for the prepaid pass

The card comes with a few days “you could chose your dates later”, officially when you want to use a certain day for the free day you should fill in on the pass that date, and when the first conductor comes he punches that day, but technically you can leave the date blank until the conductor comes, that way you have a chance if no conductor asks you for your card (happens quite often) you can save it for the next day :)

4) Swiss Transfer Ticket" This card costs 141 francs and is valid for 2 trips from and to the boarder or airport, for example you are traveling from the airport to Arosa and are not planning to go anywhere else or take any other transportation, with this card you will effectively pay 71 francs per way. This card is only valid for trips to and from the airport or boarder and no (long) stops allowed. Technically if you will travel one more day, the Swiss travel pass mentioned above will probably be cheaper.

Make sure to order your pass a few weeks before leaving, it takes about 1-3 weeks for the pass to arrive. But you can always buy it in the Airport, though you might have to wait in line and also if you want to buy the Youth pass (for 25 y/o or younger) they might ask you for proof...

There is also a family pass if you travel with a large family, I am not familiar with that.


Fast Baggage
There is a service via SBB, They deliver your luggage for you!! For example you are traveling from ZRH to Arosa, you don't want to be busy Shlepping around your luggage, You can check in your luggage in the airport and they (SBB) will deliver it to the train station in Arosa. This service is available "from and to" most train stations in Switzerland. You can ask about the Fast Baggage by any train station or read here or here

You can even buy a tag that you put on the luggage before checking in your luggage in any airport (i.e. JFK) and Rail Europe will take your luggage from the airplane in Switzerland and deliver it either to your hotel or to the train station in the city you're going to.  Read about Flight Luggage Here




PS. When doing research and getting to a website in German, just add /en (after .ch) to translate to English.
And Hey, Don't forget to write a TR ;)

Sample Itinerary for 9 hour stopover on Swiss flight from TLV to U.S. that lands at 810 and takes off around 5
Copied from @cholent:
Here it is: landed in zrh, crazy line for entering country but moved pretty quickly, about half an hour. Picked up sim in the airport. Rented car through Priceline from europecar. Drove to Titlis, stunning scenery along drive. Missed a turnoff because I couldn't get Waze to talk and I was trying to do some stuff online while we were driving, added half an hour to get there, but the stunning scenery made it worthwhile. Got there, parked, you pay at the entrance if you're going to park for more than an hour. Paid, took the cable car. Got off at there halfway station by mistake, gorgeous lake. Went back on and back up to the top. It was somewhat cloudy which was a pity. Suspension bridge was fun but no view because of the clouds. Took the ice flyer to the other peak, then went sledding down the hill, lots of fun. No tubing because there wasn't enough snow. We didn't have enough time for the ice cave because of the extra time driving there and we weren't sure where it was anyway. Made some new Israeli friends and took the cable car down with them. Got back to the airport, returning the car took less than five minutes, getting through the airport took a little longer so we didn't have time for showers at the lounge. It was amazing all around, I would definitely recommend

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #195 on: May 25, 2011, 12:10:36 AM »
I am not in switzerland at the moment, so not online alot.
To answer some questions:
Irg is the schul closest to the ph. About 10 min walk
Take a train to lucerne, its much more relaxing, then driving on roads you dont know. If its nice weather, go up the pilatus,its not cheap, but the view is unreal.
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Also if you go to the info center in the train station they will show you a live view from on pilatus so you can see if its worthwile to do that or to just stick with riding the boats and walking on the bridges and on top of old city walls.
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #196 on: June 06, 2011, 09:15:08 AM »
my wife and i are planning on stopping in europe somewhere on the way into newyork from israel,we have 2 "babys"2 year old and newborn(months) the only availability in business into new york was thru zurich.leaving tav at 530 am and have the option of continuing to ny any day for the rest of the week. assuming we leave monday morning from tlv,how many days should we spend in zurich? where to stay? what is doable with 2 kids? any other stopover recommendations would be appreciated,(although we have seen a large part of europe already.) we are leaving the week beginning july 24th. thanks for all the help!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #197 on: June 06, 2011, 09:29:09 AM »
my wife and i are planning on stopping in europe somewhere on the way into newyork from israel,we have 2 "babys"2 year old and newborn(months) the only availability in business into new york was thru zurich.leaving tav at 530 am and have the option of continuing to ny any day for the rest of the week. assuming we leave monday morning from tlv,how many days should we spend in zurich? where to stay? what is doable with 2 kids? any other stopover recommendations would be appreciated,(although we have seen a large part of europe already.) we are leaving the week beginning july 24th. thanks for all the help!!!!!!!!!

The main attraction is Switzerland is Chuchem. Some would argue that its the alps but I still think its Chuchem

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #198 on: June 06, 2011, 10:08:51 AM »
Swiss Business is great. 
We spent 22 hours in Switzerland and had a blast, I'm sure we could've spent more time.  The Park Hyatt there is an excellent location and is very nice if you have Hyatt points/nights.
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #199 on: June 06, 2011, 10:38:21 AM »
Could anyone advise me on this? I've been reading up on speeding tickets in Zurich and I'm getting a little nervous. I was there in January '09 and got flashed on the way to the airport. I don't have any details of the offence (ticket no. etc.), but I want to pay it now or sort it out somehow. What is the best way to go about it?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #200 on: June 06, 2011, 04:55:26 PM »
The main attraction is Switzerland is Chuchem. Some would argue that its the alps but I still think its Chuchem
always knew i could count on you ;D

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #201 on: June 07, 2011, 01:31:34 AM »
Yes, i am the main attraction.
People come to switzerland for 3 weeks, so there is no time limit. With 2 small kids you will not be able to do as much in one day, so its really up to you. You can stay in zuerich and do daytrips or stay in the mountains. I think st. Moritz is the nicest place. A cheap (dollar is very low, so nothing is really cheap) clean hotel is hotel sonne. Search for their website. Only place with minjan and kosher hotel is arosa

Public transportation is easy and no problem with a stroller.
At the end it really depends on your budget and time.
You can see alot in 2 days, but can also easy spend a week.



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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #202 on: June 07, 2011, 01:36:48 AM »
@chaim

You will have to remember what canton (like state) it was from. If not maybe the embassy can help, as your name will be blacklisted !
If you plan on going to switzerland in the future, i would try to pay or they will stop you the next time at the airport and it will not be fun.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #203 on: June 07, 2011, 02:55:12 AM »
Yes, i am the main attraction.
People come to switzerland for 3 weeks, so there is no time limit. With 2 small kids you will not be able to do as much in one day, so its really up to you. You can stay in zuerich and do daytrips or stay in the mountains. I think st. Moritz is the nicest place. A cheap (dollar is very low, so nothing is really cheap) clean hotel is hotel sonne. Search for their website. Only place with minjan and kosher hotel is arosa

Public transportation is easy and no problem with a stroller.
At the end it really depends on your budget and time.
You can see alot in 2 days, but can also easy spend a week.
thanks so much!!!! where would you recommend basing ourselves and from there do daytrips?st moritz? what to do ? thanks again,appreciate the help!

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #204 on: June 07, 2011, 02:56:02 AM »
how far is st. moritz from zurich?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #205 on: June 07, 2011, 03:20:44 AM »
I dont mind answering all questions, but you can try a simple search yourself. 2,5 hours by car and 3,5 hours by train


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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #206 on: June 07, 2011, 05:50:30 AM »
I dont mind answering all questions, but you can try a simple search yourself. 2,5 hours by car and 3,5 hours by train

Hmmm.... I know that I once thought of telling that to someone :).

BTW, Any idea of CO allows an open-jaw and a stopover?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #207 on: June 07, 2011, 07:19:12 AM »
thanks!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #208 on: June 09, 2011, 11:33:11 AM »
Hmmm.... I know that I once thought of telling that to someone :).

BTW, Any idea of CO allows an open-jaw and a stopover?
CO does allow an open-jaw and a stopover.
However, officially, the open-jaw must be at the origin or destination. Meaning you can do EWR-TLV(destination)-ZRH(stop)-LAX or JFK-FRA-TLV(destination)IST-JFK (stops under 24 hours don't count) but they will not allow EWR-TLV(destination)-ZRH(stop)LHR-EWR.
You can always try and get them to manually price it but it will be very hard if not impossible IME

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #209 on: June 20, 2011, 04:53:07 AM »
looking for a final psak having read this entire thread from beginning to end.

A) is 3 days in ZRH a decent amount of time?

B) where should I spend those three days (i don't want a kosher hotel)

dates are august 28-31

thanks and hats off to chuchem!