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Zurich
HOTELS
-The Park Hyatt is fantastic and a 10 minute walk to shul.
Tram stop: Stockerstrasse

RESTAURANTS

Meat:

Olive Garden - Located inside he JCC
Tram stop: Bahnhof Enge


Milk/Parve:

Fein und Schein - cafe type of place; ambience lacking, but hey, food is food

Bagels and Co.  (Bederstrasse corner Klopstockstrasse 8002 Zürich) Tram Stop "Waffenplatzstrasse"

Books & Bagels - combination bagel shop and judaica store

Bakery:

ATTRACTIONS
-Walk around the lake area
-Bahnhofstrasse window shopping
-Take a train to Lucerne and buy the golden ticket, included a boat ride on Lake Lucerne, cogwheel train and tram. Then take bus back to Lucerne
-When you arrive in Lucerne you can go to the tourist office to see a live view from Mount Pilatus (Or you can check online). If it's cloudy skip the cogwheel train and just take a nice boatride and explore the town, ancient bridges, and walk on top of the old city fortress walls.




Options in the Alps

Arosa: Metropol Hotel - quaint little old hotel. Not very fancy - it's like honeymooning in your grandmother's house (HT: Mrs. Moishebatchy). The food is very basic, but delicious. Mikva on premises. If skiing is your thing, the have an agreement with one of the ski places (Härtner) not to charge Metropol customers for ski rentals over Shabbos.


Need a meal on shabbes, please PM me (Chuchem). I live 15 minute walk from the hyatt, close to chabad. Zürich has no eiruv!

Major Attractions
“Please edit the wiki to add more attractions”

Central Switzerland
-Lucerne, Pilatus Offers: Cogwheel, Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mini Zip-line and fun area
-Titlis Offers: Gondolas, Snow Tubing, Trutti Bikes, Ice Museum, Row Boating
-Brunni Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Stroll in Lake(!)

Jungfrau Region
-Jungfrau/jungfraujoch Click here for the Kosher hotel in Wengen / 360-degree panorama of Jungfraujoch-Top of Europe
-Grindelwald Offers: Gondolas, mega Zip-line, Trutti Bikes

Eastern Switzerland
-St. Moritz
Davos / Klosters
Arosa Click here for the Kosher Levins hotel

Southern Switzerland
-Zermatt - "Matterhorn"
-Saas-Fee Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mega Zip-line, Trotti Bikes, (Saas-Grund has Monster Trotteres) and on top of "Allalin" you can go Snow Tubing and Skiing even in the summer!
-Crans Montana You can email the Kosher hotel in Crans Montana Hotelmk@gmail.com  or call them at 0032485640498 or 003233011600


HalbTax Pass

A HalbTax pass (or Half Fare card) is a card designated for tourists and not for Swiss residents (officially...). The card gives you half price on all public transportation like buses, trains, trams, boats and also on "most" cable cars (attractions). There are basically 4 kinds.

1) An annual pass, the price is currently 175 francs. If i remember correctly it has a photo ID of the recipient, so double check before sharing it.
Click here for the annual pass

2) A 30 day pass, the price is currently 120 francs, it does not have a photo ID on it.
Click here or here for the 30 day pass

3) - Recommended for frequent traveling Swiss Travel Pass - you prepay a set amount per day and get unlimited for that day (plus "optional" for a fee, for 1 month including the days you chose, it is a HalbTax, even on the prepaid free days, it's only free for all transportation, on cable cars you only get half off). The price per day depends on how many days you prepay, for example if you prepay 8 days, the price per day will be about 53 francs, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 73 francs. If you are 25 y/o or younger, you can get the Youth Pass which is cheaper - If you prepay 8 days  the price per day will be about 40 francs a day, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 62 francs.
Click here (or here) for the prepaid pass

The card comes with a few days “you could chose your dates later”, officially when you want to use a certain day for the free day you should fill in on the pass that date, and when the first conductor comes he punches that day, but technically you can leave the date blank until the conductor comes, that way you have a chance if no conductor asks you for your card (happens quite often) you can save it for the next day :)

4) Swiss Transfer Ticket" This card costs 141 francs and is valid for 2 trips from and to the boarder or airport, for example you are traveling from the airport to Arosa and are not planning to go anywhere else or take any other transportation, with this card you will effectively pay 71 francs per way. This card is only valid for trips to and from the airport or boarder and no (long) stops allowed. Technically if you will travel one more day, the Swiss travel pass mentioned above will probably be cheaper.

Make sure to order your pass a few weeks before leaving, it takes about 1-3 weeks for the pass to arrive. But you can always buy it in the Airport, though you might have to wait in line and also if you want to buy the Youth pass (for 25 y/o or younger) they might ask you for proof...

There is also a family pass if you travel with a large family, I am not familiar with that.


Fast Baggage
There is a service via SBB, They deliver your luggage for you!! For example you are traveling from ZRH to Arosa, you don't want to be busy Shlepping around your luggage, You can check in your luggage in the airport and they (SBB) will deliver it to the train station in Arosa. This service is available "from and to" most train stations in Switzerland. You can ask about the Fast Baggage by any train station or read here or here

You can even buy a tag that you put on the luggage before checking in your luggage in any airport (i.e. JFK) and Rail Europe will take your luggage from the airplane in Switzerland and deliver it either to your hotel or to the train station in the city you're going to.  Read about Flight Luggage Here




PS. When doing research and getting to a website in German, just add /en (after .ch) to translate to English.
And Hey, Don't forget to write a TR ;)

Sample Itinerary for 9 hour stopover on Swiss flight from TLV to U.S. that lands at 810 and takes off around 5
Copied from @cholent:
Here it is: landed in zrh, crazy line for entering country but moved pretty quickly, about half an hour. Picked up sim in the airport. Rented car through Priceline from europecar. Drove to Titlis, stunning scenery along drive. Missed a turnoff because I couldn't get Waze to talk and I was trying to do some stuff online while we were driving, added half an hour to get there, but the stunning scenery made it worthwhile. Got there, parked, you pay at the entrance if you're going to park for more than an hour. Paid, took the cable car. Got off at there halfway station by mistake, gorgeous lake. Went back on and back up to the top. It was somewhat cloudy which was a pity. Suspension bridge was fun but no view because of the clouds. Took the ice flyer to the other peak, then went sledding down the hill, lots of fun. No tubing because there wasn't enough snow. We didn't have enough time for the ice cave because of the extra time driving there and we weren't sure where it was anyway. Made some new Israeli friends and took the cable car down with them. Got back to the airport, returning the car took less than five minutes, getting through the airport took a little longer so we didn't have time for showers at the lounge. It was amazing all around, I would definitely recommend

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2235 on: July 14, 2019, 07:47:56 AM »
Ask kernberg@sunrise.ch   

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2236 on: July 17, 2019, 03:49:41 AM »
New kosher list for bread from 22.07.19 till 30.08.19 in Switzerland.
Wanted to upload the list, seems file is too big. 

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2237 on: July 17, 2019, 04:08:56 PM »
anyone know if  Bäckerei-Konditorei Bad in St Moritz is Kosher this summer? Asking because apparently there were some issues last summer....

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2238 on: July 18, 2019, 04:52:42 AM »
anyone know if  Bäckerei-Konditorei Bad in St Moritz is Kosher this summer? Asking because apparently there were some issues last summer....

'issues' meaning Pizza treif was found being baked in the same oven as the 'kosher' bread was baked.
Still not kosher. 

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2239 on: July 24, 2019, 04:17:50 PM »
is the kulm hotel a problem if you try to put three people in one room that is meant only for one person?is it to small? will they notice right away?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2240 on: July 25, 2019, 03:31:34 AM »
is the kulm hotel a problem if you try to put three people in one room that is meant only for one person?is it to small? will they notice right away?

Think:  is this worth the Chillul Hashem ?  Vacation costs money, but it's not worth going home, with the "package of chillul Hashem" on your shoulder.
In Switzerland you have to be polite, greet, say thank you, but most of all, to leave an impression that jews are well behaved.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2241 on: July 25, 2019, 09:14:24 AM »


Think:  is this worth the Chillul Hashem ?  Vacation costs money, but it's not worth going home, with the "package of chillul Hashem" on your shoulder.
In Switzerland you have to be polite, greet, say thank you, but most of all, to leave an impression that jews are well behaved.

He's just trying to get back some of the money that the swiss stole during the war (and probably to this day still hide).
I'm not who you think I am.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2242 on: July 25, 2019, 11:09:05 AM »
is the kulm hotel a problem if you try to put three people in one room that is meant only for one person?is it to small? will they notice right away?
Don't try to pull off any shtick. Yes, of course it's a problem. Pretty much any hotel or apartment in Europe will not allow to have more people in the room than permitted.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2243 on: July 25, 2019, 02:16:26 PM »

He's just trying to get back some of the money that the swiss stole during the war (and probably to this day still hide).

Everyone knows this.  (Also plenty of goiyim..)  but we are jews.  And 'they' are judging every single step we're doing. 

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2244 on: July 25, 2019, 02:18:47 PM »
Don't try to pull off any shtick. Yes, of course it's a problem. Pretty much any hotel or apartment in Europe will not allow to have more people in the room than permitted.

Again, I'm repeating myself.  Immagine the scene, when you do get 'caught' and they see you are jewish, either from your clothing, or your name or your passport.  Is this worth it ?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2245 on: July 25, 2019, 04:49:27 PM »

He's just trying to get back some of the money that the swiss stole during the war (and probably to this day still hide).
yep from both grandparents to be exact.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2246 on: July 25, 2019, 05:01:27 PM »
yep from both grandparents to be exact.

Really ??  So you think you're the only one ?
I would suggest you go and learn what Chillul Hashem meany exactly,
and what the punishment for it is in the next world.  You will not believe it.  It is very very scary.  From your private
message you sent me, I see you're not taking this seriously. I would suggest if you can't afford it, then stay at home, or look
for a cheaper place.  But to come to Switzerland, risk a Chillul Hashem ?!?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2247 on: July 25, 2019, 08:43:50 PM »
 i am just curious to know the consequences if you are caught? i only had a fleeting thought about doing that but after your stern talking to i realized  its not like a american hotel. where you could put three guys in a deluxe room that is meant for 2.  thank you for the Swiss culture reality check. though i definitely would not want to marry your daughter now. 6. Man soll den Tag nicht vor dem Abend loben(dont criticize before i finish what i have to say)

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2248 on: July 26, 2019, 04:25:30 AM »
i am just curious to know the consequences if you are caught? i only had a fleeting thought about doing that but after your stern talking to i realized  its not like a american hotel. where you could put three guys in a deluxe room that is meant for 2.  thank you for the Swiss culture reality check. though i definitely would not want to marry your daughter now. 6. Man soll den Tag nicht vor dem Abend loben(dont criticize before i finish what i have to say)

Cute !
Switzerland is not only the mountains, scenery, chocolate and cheese. It's also a land where jews have been persecuted, tortured and burnt,various times throught the middle ages.  And then again, during second world war, jewish refugees waiting at the border of Switzerland to enter, were sent back to Germany.  You could say Europe is soaked with jewish blood.  Everyone should enjoy their holidays, but be aware of not creating a Chillul Hashem.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2249 on: July 31, 2019, 10:48:04 AM »
hi I am looking for a nice hotel on the way to ST mortiz from ZRH with amazing views for one night ?

if I am only one day in ST mortiz what should I do ?
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