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Zurich
HOTELS
-The Park Hyatt is fantastic and a 10 minute walk to shul.
Tram stop: Stockerstrasse

RESTAURANTS

Meat:

Florentin - Located inside he JCC https://florentin.rest/
Tram stop: Bahnhof Enge

Grill Cave

Food truck. Check website for opening hours. Burgers, sandwiches, hot dogs etc.
https://www.thegrillcave.co/


Milk/Parve:

Babi's Bagels (Bederstrasse corner Klopstockstrasse 8002 Zürich) Tram Stop "Waffenplatzstrasse"

Bakery:
Ma'Adan Bakery
Manessestrasse/Schimmelstrasse
Has delicious pastries and also sells sandwiches, salads, and some sushi.

Butcher:
Metzgerei Kol Tuv

Can preorder for pickup.
Can also deliver throughout Switzerland by post.
See website for details.

https://www.koltuv.ch/en

ATTRACTIONS
-Walk around the lake area
-Bahnhofstrasse window shopping
-Take a train to Lucerne and buy the golden ticket, included a boat ride on Lake Lucerne, cogwheel train and tram. Then take bus back to Lucerne
-When you arrive in Lucerne you can go to the tourist office to see a live view from Mount Pilatus (Or you can check online). If it's cloudy skip the cogwheel train and just take a nice boatride and explore the town, ancient bridges, and walk on top of the old city fortress walls.




Options in the Alps

Arosa: Metropol Hotel - quaint little old hotel. Not very fancy - it's like honeymooning in your grandmother's house (HT: Mrs. Moishebatchy). The food is very basic, but delicious. Mikva on premises. If skiing is your thing, the have an agreement with one of the ski places (Härtner) not to charge Metropol customers for ski rentals over Shabbos.


Need a meal on shabbes, please PM me (Chuchem). I live 15 minute walk from the hyatt, close to chabad. Zürich has no eiruv!

Major Attractions
“Please edit the wiki to add more attractions”

Central Switzerland
-Lucerne, Pilatus Offers: Cogwheel, Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mini Zip-line and fun area
-Titlis Offers: Gondolas, Snow Tubing, Trutti Bikes, Ice Museum, Row Boating
-Brunni Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Stroll in Lake(!)

Jungfrau Region
-Jungfrau/jungfraujoch Click here for the Kosher hotel in Wengen / 360-degree panorama of Jungfraujoch-Top of Europe
-Grindelwald Offers: Gondolas, mega Zip-line, Trutti Bikes

Eastern Switzerland
-St. Moritz
Davos / Klosters
Arosa Click here for the Kosher Levins hotel

Southern Switzerland
-Zermatt - "Matterhorn"
-Saas-Fee Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mega Zip-line, Trotti Bikes, (Saas-Grund has Monster Trotteres) and on top of "Allalin" you can go Snow Tubing and Skiing even in the summer!
-Crans Montana You can email the Kosher hotel in Crans Montana Hotelmk@gmail.com  or call them at 0032485640498 or 003233011600


HalbTax Pass

A HalbTax pass (or Half Fare card) is a card designated for tourists and not for Swiss residents (officially...). The card gives you half price on all public transportation like buses, trains, trams, boats and also on "most" cable cars (attractions). There are basically 4 kinds.

1) An annual pass, the price is currently 175 francs. If i remember correctly it has a photo ID of the recipient, so double check before sharing it.
Click here for the annual pass

2) A 30 day pass, the price is currently 120 francs, it does not have a photo ID on it.
Click here or here for the 30 day pass

3) - Recommended for frequent traveling Swiss Travel Pass - you prepay a set amount per day and get unlimited for that day (plus "optional" for a fee, for 1 month including the days you chose, it is a HalbTax, even on the prepaid free days, it's only free for all transportation, on cable cars you only get half off). The price per day depends on how many days you prepay, for example if you prepay 8 days, the price per day will be about 53 francs, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 73 francs. If you are 25 y/o or younger, you can get the Youth Pass which is cheaper - If you prepay 8 days  the price per day will be about 40 francs a day, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 62 francs.
Click here (or here) for the prepaid pass

The card comes with a few days “you could chose your dates later”, officially when you want to use a certain day for the free day you should fill in on the pass that date, and when the first conductor comes he punches that day, but technically you can leave the date blank until the conductor comes, that way you have a chance if no conductor asks you for your card (happens quite often) you can save it for the next day :)

4) Swiss Transfer Ticket" This card costs 141 francs and is valid for 2 trips from and to the boarder or airport, for example you are traveling from the airport to Arosa and are not planning to go anywhere else or take any other transportation, with this card you will effectively pay 71 francs per way. This card is only valid for trips to and from the airport or boarder and no (long) stops allowed. Technically if you will travel one more day, the Swiss travel pass mentioned above will probably be cheaper.

Make sure to order your pass a few weeks before leaving, it takes about 1-3 weeks for the pass to arrive. But you can always buy it in the Airport, though you might have to wait in line and also if you want to buy the Youth pass (for 25 y/o or younger) they might ask you for proof...

There is also a family pass if you travel with a large family, I am not familiar with that.


Fast Baggage
There is a service via SBB, They deliver your luggage for you!! For example you are traveling from ZRH to Arosa, you don't want to be busy Shlepping around your luggage, You can check in your luggage in the airport and they (SBB) will deliver it to the train station in Arosa. This service is available "from and to" most train stations in Switzerland. You can ask about the Fast Baggage by any train station or read here or here

You can even buy a tag that you put on the luggage before checking in your luggage in any airport (i.e. JFK) and Rail Europe will take your luggage from the airplane in Switzerland and deliver it either to your hotel or to the train station in the city you're going to.  Read about Flight Luggage Here




PS. When doing research and getting to a website in German, just add /en (after .ch) to translate to English.
And Hey, Don't forget to write a TR ;)

Sample Itinerary for 9 hour stopover on Swiss flight from TLV to U.S. that lands at 810 and takes off around 5
Copied from @cholent:
Here it is: landed in zrh, crazy line for entering country but moved pretty quickly, about half an hour. Picked up sim in the airport. Rented car through Priceline from europecar. Drove to Titlis, stunning scenery along drive. Missed a turnoff because I couldn't get Waze to talk and I was trying to do some stuff online while we were driving, added half an hour to get there, but the stunning scenery made it worthwhile. Got there, parked, you pay at the entrance if you're going to park for more than an hour. Paid, took the cable car. Got off at there halfway station by mistake, gorgeous lake. Went back on and back up to the top. It was somewhat cloudy which was a pity. Suspension bridge was fun but no view because of the clouds. Took the ice flyer to the other peak, then went sledding down the hill, lots of fun. No tubing because there wasn't enough snow. We didn't have enough time for the ice cave because of the extra time driving there and we weren't sure where it was anyway. Made some new Israeli friends and took the cable car down with them. Got back to the airport, returning the car took less than five minutes, getting through the airport took a little longer so we didn't have time for showers at the lounge. It was amazing all around, I would definitely recommend

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2460 on: June 16, 2022, 07:32:22 AM »
It must be a very recent change, because it was still advertised last week, and they pulled Molaja from their website

Galitzky will be opening the hotel for three weeks.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2461 on: June 16, 2022, 01:42:06 PM »
Not many hotels in Switaerland this summer
i think just
Kempinsky st moritz
maloja just 3 weeks
Arosa Levkovitz
and levin davos

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2462 on: June 16, 2022, 04:34:45 PM »
Not many hotels in Switaerland this summer
i think just
Kempinsky st moritz
maloja just 3 weeks
Arosa Levkovitz
and levin davos
When was the last time there were more?
״וזה כלל גדול: שישנא אדם כל דבר שקר. וכל מה שיוסיף שנאה לדרכי השקר – יוסיף אהבה לתורה.״ - אורחות צדיקים

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2463 on: June 17, 2022, 03:16:59 AM »
well:
 cherytours almost had in davos
tour plus almost had the whole summer
crans montana had a kosher hotel

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2464 on: June 17, 2022, 01:32:42 PM »
I got this from Cherry Tours this morning

Hi 


Sorry for the delay in responding, as the Rixos Hotel in Davos has been cancelled in the last minute, because of the hotel management have cancelled the contract.


We have now moved our program to the Tieflehner Hof hotel in the most  beautiful Austrian mountains Plangeross Pitztal.


Our program will start 3rd of July until the 5th of Sep 


The prices start $390 in July and $450 in August  for a couple in a room.


The hotel will be under the strict Hashgacha of 

Rabbi פנחס לייביש פאדווא שליט’’א 


If you need any more information don't hesitate to contact us.


Pessy Hoffman


Cherry Tours 


I would like some feedback as the rates seems much cheaper obviously it’s Austria vs Swiss any other reason besides this?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2465 on: June 17, 2022, 01:38:58 PM »
I would like some feedback as the rates seems much cheaper obviously it’s Austria vs Swiss any other reason besides this?
Just look at pictures of the hotel...
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2466 on: June 18, 2022, 03:48:43 PM »
They are also competing with feder tourolam in Seefeld similar idea of hotel/ area

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2467 on: June 19, 2022, 01:06:53 PM »
Is there any place that sells the Half Fare pass for less than 120 CHF? It seems like there was some discounts in the past.

Is there a 14 day version of it, or is there only the 30 day one?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2468 on: June 21, 2022, 03:47:32 PM »
Tourplus who were planning on being in maloja pallace in August just got the shloss hotel in pontresina from tishabav

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2469 on: June 22, 2022, 12:21:48 AM »
They are also competing with feder tourolam in Seefeld similar idea of hotel/ area
Which is better and which has better food?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2470 on: June 22, 2022, 08:50:47 AM »
Anyone can recommend a taxi from Milan MXP to St Moritz?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2471 on: June 26, 2022, 09:00:48 AM »
So far it looks like thunderstorms all day in Lucerne-Pilatus, Titlis area. Area to the east
seems clear. Where should I think of heading for a one day trip out of Zurich? I will of course check the weather before heading out.

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URGENT FOOD QUESTION FOR TODAY
« Reply #2472 on: June 26, 2022, 11:17:29 AM »
Am I allowed to bring frozen milk and cold cuts from the US into Switzerland? It seems that EU allows per person limits, but it doesn't say from US.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2473 on: June 26, 2022, 11:24:55 AM »
Am I allowed to bring frozen milk and cold cuts from the US into Switzerland? It seems that EU allows per person limits, but it doesn't say from US.
Switzerland is not EU
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2474 on: June 26, 2022, 11:29:48 AM »
Switzerland allows from EU countries. USA is called a third country.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2475 on: June 26, 2022, 11:41:09 AM »
Am I allowed to bring frozen milk and cold cuts from the US into Switzerland? It seems that EU allows per person limits, but it doesn't say from US.
Bump? I am leaving to the airport in three hours. We have a one day overnight and were not planning to go into town to shop for food...

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2476 on: June 26, 2022, 12:35:43 PM »
Bump? I am leaving to the airport in three hours. We have a one day overnight and were not planning to go into town to shop for food...

Bringing in from outside EU is illegal, chances that they will search though is extremely slim and worst case they will just consficate it.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2477 on: June 26, 2022, 12:37:05 PM »
Bringing in from outside EU is illegal, chances that they will search though is extremely slim and worst case they will just consficate it.
Thanks! Do we need to sign any declarations?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2478 on: June 26, 2022, 01:25:29 PM »
Thanks! Do we need to sign any declarations?

No, only on your way back to the US.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2479 on: June 26, 2022, 01:45:16 PM »
No, only on your way back to the US.
Thanks!