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Kosher food list 2022

Zurich
HOTELS
-The Park Hyatt is fantastic and a 10 minute walk to shul.
Tram stop: Stockerstrasse

RESTAURANTS

Meat:

Florentin - Located inside he JCC https://florentin.rest/
Tram stop: Bahnhof Enge

Grill Cave

Food truck. Check website for opening hours. Burgers, sandwiches, hot dogs etc.
https://www.thegrillcave.co/


Milk/Parve:

Babi's Bagels (Bederstrasse corner Klopstockstrasse 8002 Zürich) Tram Stop "Waffenplatzstrasse"

Bakery:
Ma'Adan Bakery
Manessestrasse/Schimmelstrasse
Has delicious pastries and also sells sandwiches, salads, and some sushi.

Butcher:
Metzgerei Kol Tuv

Can preorder for pickup.
Can also deliver throughout Switzerland by post.
See website for details.

https://www.koltuv.ch/en

ATTRACTIONS
-Walk around the lake area
-Bahnhofstrasse window shopping
-Take a train to Lucerne and buy the golden ticket, included a boat ride on Lake Lucerne, cogwheel train and tram. Then take bus back to Lucerne
-When you arrive in Lucerne you can go to the tourist office to see a live view from Mount Pilatus (Or you can check online). If it's cloudy skip the cogwheel train and just take a nice boatride and explore the town, ancient bridges, and walk on top of the old city fortress walls.




Options in the Alps

Arosa: Metropol Hotel - quaint little old hotel. Not very fancy - it's like honeymooning in your grandmother's house (HT: Mrs. Moishebatchy). The food is very basic, but delicious. Mikva on premises. If skiing is your thing, the have an agreement with one of the ski places (Härtner) not to charge Metropol customers for ski rentals over Shabbos.


Need a meal on shabbes, please PM me (Chuchem). I live 15 minute walk from the hyatt, close to chabad. Zürich has no eiruv!

Major Attractions
“Please edit the wiki to add more attractions”

Central Switzerland
-Lucerne, Pilatus Offers: Cogwheel, Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mini Zip-line and fun area
-Titlis Offers: Gondolas, Snow Tubing, Trutti Bikes, Ice Museum, Row Boating
-Brunni Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Stroll in Lake(!)

Jungfrau Region
-Jungfrau/jungfraujoch Click here for the Kosher hotel in Wengen / 360-degree panorama of Jungfraujoch-Top of Europe
-Grindelwald Offers: Gondolas, mega Zip-line, Trutti Bikes

Eastern Switzerland
-St. Moritz
Davos / Klosters
Arosa Click here for the Kosher Levins hotel

Southern Switzerland
-Zermatt - "Matterhorn"
-Saas-Fee Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mega Zip-line, Trotti Bikes, (Saas-Grund has Monster Trotteres) and on top of "Allalin" you can go Snow Tubing and Skiing even in the summer!
-Crans Montana You can email the Kosher hotel in Crans Montana Hotelmk@gmail.com  or call them at 0032485640498 or 003233011600


HalbTax Pass

A HalbTax pass (or Half Fare card) is a card designated for tourists and not for Swiss residents (officially...). The card gives you half price on all public transportation like buses, trains, trams, boats and also on "most" cable cars (attractions). There are basically 4 kinds.

1) An annual pass, the price is currently 175 francs. If i remember correctly it has a photo ID of the recipient, so double check before sharing it.
Click here for the annual pass

2) A 30 day pass, the price is currently 120 francs, it does not have a photo ID on it.
Click here or here for the 30 day pass

3) - Recommended for frequent traveling Swiss Travel Pass - you prepay a set amount per day and get unlimited for that day (plus "optional" for a fee, for 1 month including the days you chose, it is a HalbTax, even on the prepaid free days, it's only free for all transportation, on cable cars you only get half off). The price per day depends on how many days you prepay, for example if you prepay 8 days, the price per day will be about 53 francs, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 73 francs. If you are 25 y/o or younger, you can get the Youth Pass which is cheaper - If you prepay 8 days  the price per day will be about 40 francs a day, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 62 francs.
Click here (or here) for the prepaid pass

The card comes with a few days “you could chose your dates later”, officially when you want to use a certain day for the free day you should fill in on the pass that date, and when the first conductor comes he punches that day, but technically you can leave the date blank until the conductor comes, that way you have a chance if no conductor asks you for your card (happens quite often) you can save it for the next day :)

4) Swiss Transfer Ticket" This card costs 141 francs and is valid for 2 trips from and to the boarder or airport, for example you are traveling from the airport to Arosa and are not planning to go anywhere else or take any other transportation, with this card you will effectively pay 71 francs per way. This card is only valid for trips to and from the airport or boarder and no (long) stops allowed. Technically if you will travel one more day, the Swiss travel pass mentioned above will probably be cheaper.

Make sure to order your pass a few weeks before leaving, it takes about 1-3 weeks for the pass to arrive. But you can always buy it in the Airport, though you might have to wait in line and also if you want to buy the Youth pass (for 25 y/o or younger) they might ask you for proof...

There is also a family pass if you travel with a large family, I am not familiar with that.


Fast Baggage
There is a service via SBB, They deliver your luggage for you!! For example you are traveling from ZRH to Arosa, you don't want to be busy Shlepping around your luggage, You can check in your luggage in the airport and they (SBB) will deliver it to the train station in Arosa. This service is available "from and to" most train stations in Switzerland. You can ask about the Fast Baggage by any train station or read here or here

You can even buy a tag that you put on the luggage before checking in your luggage in any airport (i.e. JFK) and Rail Europe will take your luggage from the airplane in Switzerland and deliver it either to your hotel or to the train station in the city you're going to.  Read about Flight Luggage Here




PS. When doing research and getting to a website in German, just add /en (after .ch) to translate to English.
And Hey, Don't forget to write a TR ;)

Sample Itinerary for 9 hour stopover on Swiss flight from TLV to U.S. that lands at 810 and takes off around 5
Copied from @cholent:
Here it is: landed in zrh, crazy line for entering country but moved pretty quickly, about half an hour. Picked up sim in the airport. Rented car through Priceline from europecar. Drove to Titlis, stunning scenery along drive. Missed a turnoff because I couldn't get Waze to talk and I was trying to do some stuff online while we were driving, added half an hour to get there, but the stunning scenery made it worthwhile. Got there, parked, you pay at the entrance if you're going to park for more than an hour. Paid, took the cable car. Got off at there halfway station by mistake, gorgeous lake. Went back on and back up to the top. It was somewhat cloudy which was a pity. Suspension bridge was fun but no view because of the clouds. Took the ice flyer to the other peak, then went sledding down the hill, lots of fun. No tubing because there wasn't enough snow. We didn't have enough time for the ice cave because of the extra time driving there and we weren't sure where it was anyway. Made some new Israeli friends and took the cable car down with them. Got back to the airport, returning the car took less than five minutes, getting through the airport took a little longer so we didn't have time for showers at the lounge. It was amazing all around, I would definitely recommend

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2620 on: April 28, 2023, 03:54:11 AM »
Hi I was trying to figure out the exact restriction of bringing meat into Switzerland from Israel
Is a small amount okay? does it make a difference if its cooked?
thanks!

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2621 on: April 28, 2023, 07:23:26 AM »
zero meat from outside eu allowed!

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2622 on: April 28, 2023, 09:35:54 AM »
thanks for the reply

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2623 on: April 28, 2023, 02:56:11 PM »
Hi All,

I am considering a short weekend trip to Switzerland.
I would arrive on Friday, June 16 sometime in the afternoon and depart around noon from Zurich at noon on Monday, June 19.
While Switzerland is not budget traveler friendly, I am a budget traveler.
Would you recommend recommend Davos or Interlaken for a weekend?
I do not need Minyan and I will bring food with me. 
TIA
Interlaken doesn't have minyan in June to best of my knowledge better of with Davos
If your arriving Friday afternoon to zrh would be tight for either.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2624 on: May 01, 2023, 08:07:06 PM »
has anyone here stayed at the expensive kosher summer programs at kempinskis in st moritz or engelberg (or know of any others)? alternatively, while several have discussed using the glacier express, has anyone here actually traveled on the glacier express or another train ride for the scenic views? it seems like there is lots of downtime/waiting on the train? https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserReviews-g188098-d198989-r91527626-Glacier_Express-Zermatt_Canton_of_Valais_Swiss_Alps.html

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2625 on: May 01, 2023, 10:00:32 PM »
has anyone here stayed at the expensive kosher summer programs at kempinskis in st moritz or engelberg (or know of any others)? alternatively, while several have discussed using the glacier express, has anyone here actually traveled on the glacier express or another train ride for the scenic views? it seems like there is lots of downtime/waiting on the train? https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserReviews-g188098-d198989-r91527626-Glacier_Express-Zermatt_Canton_of_Valais_Swiss_Alps.html
Are you travelling as a couple? Family with younger kids? Usually its best to settle in to one place and just the trains to that destination is otherworldly. I don't think it's worth it to schlep around all the time.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2626 on: May 07, 2023, 02:17:01 AM »
Are you travelling as a couple? Family with younger kids? Usually its best to settle in to one place and just the trains to that destination is otherworldly. I don't think it's worth it to schlep around all the time.
thanks for response! yes we are traveling with full family (2 teens, a 9 year old and a baby), so we are trying to find out about these hotel programs so we dont have to figure out food etc and spend full days adventuring. it seems sitting on a train with great views may be a good chill, but prob is then having to go back, would be great if there was a shorter circle line to give the experience.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2627 on: May 07, 2023, 07:41:13 AM »
If you take the train from ZRH to one of these hotels that will capture a lot of the scenery and be doable for the family for the experience.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2628 on: May 07, 2023, 09:32:46 AM »
I'm traveling to Arosa with 3 adults and 2 children in August. I would love any help with planning etc.
We are seriously considering the Arosa Kulm kosher program. Has anyone stayed with them and can give me information on the program, food etc?
We will be flying from TLV arriving in BSL but leaving from ZRH back to EWR. Any tips on rental cars? We will be 5 people with luggage. I see many options but not sure which will work best for us. Volvo XC90, VW Sharan, Renault grand scenic. Very confusing with sizes of the vehicles and the pricing is all over the place. Any input would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you in advance.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2629 on: May 07, 2023, 09:37:33 AM »
I'm traveling to Arosa with 3 adults and 2 children in August. I would love any help with planning etc.
We are seriously considering the Arosa Kulm kosher program. Has anyone stayed with them and can give me information on the program, food etc?
We will be flying from TLV arriving in BSL but leaving from ZRH back to EWR. Any tips on rental cars? We will be 5 people with luggage. I see many options but not sure which will work best for us. Volvo XC90, VW Sharan, Renault grand scenic. Very confusing with sizes of the vehicles and the pricing is all over the place. Any input would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you in advance.
Any reason why you would need a car?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2630 on: May 07, 2023, 09:38:01 AM »
I'm traveling to Arosa with 3 adults and 2 children in August. I would love any help with planning etc.
We are seriously considering the Arosa Kulm kosher program. Has anyone stayed with them and can give me information on the program, food etc?
We will be flying from TLV arriving in BSL but leaving from ZRH back to EWR. Any tips on rental cars? We will be 5 people with luggage. I see many options but not sure which will work best for us. Volvo XC90, VW Sharan, Renault grand scenic. Very confusing with sizes of the vehicles and the pricing is all over the place. Any input would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you in advance.
I've had best luck booking car rentals from autoeurope.com

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2631 on: May 07, 2023, 09:38:26 AM »
Hi, I stayed in different hotel, but went to look at it and spoke to ppl that stayed there,  the hotel is very nice, and the ppl said the food was delicious.
Regarding a car, I would suggest using the the train. Very easy and convenient.. no need for a car.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2632 on: May 07, 2023, 09:49:21 AM »
I have traveled in different parts of the alps and enjoy the freedom of having my own car. How is it schlepping luggage on the trains and getting around once we are there? I feel like I can enjoy the area more with my own car but let me know if I'm wrong.

Thank you for the info on the hotel. I'm hearing good things but have been badly burned in the past at a European program.

Thank you

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2633 on: May 07, 2023, 12:49:03 PM »
For 5 people with luggage. I see many options but not sure which will work best for us.
Volvo XC90, VW Sharan, Renault grand scenic.
Very confused with sizes of the vehicles.

Thank you,

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2634 on: May 07, 2023, 01:24:45 PM »
Believe none of these will fit. BTW train has an option to take suitcases till your destination .

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2635 on: May 07, 2023, 01:35:26 PM »
How do i get find the train and luggage info?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2637 on: May 07, 2023, 03:44:00 PM »
I'm traveling to Arosa with 3 adults and 2 children in August. I would love any help with planning etc.
We are seriously considering the Arosa Kulm kosher program. Has anyone stayed with them and can give me information on the program, food etc?
We will be flying from TLV arriving in BSL but leaving from ZRH back to EWR. Any tips on rental cars? We will be 5 people with luggage. I see many options but not sure which will work best for us. Volvo XC90, VW Sharan, Renault grand scenic. Very confusing with sizes of the vehicles and the pricing is all over the place. Any input would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you in advance.
Hi I had an incredible experience with them the food is amazing the hotel awesome unbelievable views
the manager's are such special people and work really hard to please everyone
please note i have been to allot of kosher programs in Switzerland and Austria and i very much recommend

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2638 on: May 07, 2023, 03:47:20 PM »
Thanks for the info

How many people do you go with? do you rent a car?

any recommendations of things to do etc???


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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2639 on: May 07, 2023, 04:05:00 PM »
There's 3 things to do in Switzerland.  Hike, Hike and Hike.