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Zurich
HOTELS
-The Park Hyatt is fantastic and a 10 minute walk to shul.
Tram stop: Stockerstrasse

RESTAURANTS

Meat:

Florentin - Located inside he JCC https://florentin.rest/
Tram stop: Bahnhof Enge

Grill Cave

Food truck. Check website for opening hours. Burgers, sandwiches, hot dogs etc.
https://www.thegrillcave.co/


Milk/Parve:

Babi's Bagels (Bederstrasse corner Klopstockstrasse 8002 Zürich) Tram Stop "Waffenplatzstrasse"

Bakery:
Ma'Adan Bakery
Manessestrasse/Schimmelstrasse
Has delicious pastries and also sells sandwiches, salads, and some sushi.

Butcher:
Metzgerei Kol Tuv

Can preorder for pickup.
Can also deliver throughout Switzerland by post.
See website for details.

https://www.koltuv.ch/en

ATTRACTIONS
-Walk around the lake area
-Bahnhofstrasse window shopping
-Take a train to Lucerne and buy the golden ticket, included a boat ride on Lake Lucerne, cogwheel train and tram. Then take bus back to Lucerne
-When you arrive in Lucerne you can go to the tourist office to see a live view from Mount Pilatus (Or you can check online). If it's cloudy skip the cogwheel train and just take a nice boatride and explore the town, ancient bridges, and walk on top of the old city fortress walls.




Options in the Alps

Arosa: Metropol Hotel - quaint little old hotel. Not very fancy - it's like honeymooning in your grandmother's house (HT: Mrs. Moishebatchy). The food is very basic, but delicious. Mikva on premises. If skiing is your thing, the have an agreement with one of the ski places (Härtner) not to charge Metropol customers for ski rentals over Shabbos.


Need a meal on shabbes, please PM me (Chuchem). I live 15 minute walk from the hyatt, close to chabad. Zürich has no eiruv!

Major Attractions
“Please edit the wiki to add more attractions”

Central Switzerland
-Lucerne, Pilatus Offers: Cogwheel, Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mini Zip-line and fun area
-Titlis Offers: Gondolas, Snow Tubing, Trutti Bikes, Ice Museum, Row Boating
-Brunni Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Stroll in Lake(!)

Jungfrau Region
-Jungfrau/jungfraujoch Click here for the Kosher hotel in Wengen / 360-degree panorama of Jungfraujoch-Top of Europe
-Grindelwald Offers: Gondolas, mega Zip-line, Trutti Bikes

Eastern Switzerland
-St. Moritz
Davos / Klosters
Arosa Click here for the Kosher Levins hotel

Southern Switzerland
-Zermatt - "Matterhorn"
-Saas-Fee Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mega Zip-line, Trotti Bikes, (Saas-Grund has Monster Trotteres) and on top of "Allalin" you can go Snow Tubing and Skiing even in the summer!
-Crans Montana You can email the Kosher hotel in Crans Montana Hotelmk@gmail.com  or call them at 0032485640498 or 003233011600


HalbTax Pass

A HalbTax pass (or Half Fare card) is a card designated for tourists and not for Swiss residents (officially...). The card gives you half price on all public transportation like buses, trains, trams, boats and also on "most" cable cars (attractions). There are basically 4 kinds.

1) An annual pass, the price is currently 175 francs. If i remember correctly it has a photo ID of the recipient, so double check before sharing it.
Click here for the annual pass

2) A 30 day pass, the price is currently 120 francs, it does not have a photo ID on it.
Click here or here for the 30 day pass

3) - Recommended for frequent traveling Swiss Travel Pass - you prepay a set amount per day and get unlimited for that day (plus "optional" for a fee, for 1 month including the days you chose, it is a HalbTax, even on the prepaid free days, it's only free for all transportation, on cable cars you only get half off). The price per day depends on how many days you prepay, for example if you prepay 8 days, the price per day will be about 53 francs, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 73 francs. If you are 25 y/o or younger, you can get the Youth Pass which is cheaper - If you prepay 8 days  the price per day will be about 40 francs a day, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 62 francs.
Click here (or here) for the prepaid pass

The card comes with a few days “you could chose your dates later”, officially when you want to use a certain day for the free day you should fill in on the pass that date, and when the first conductor comes he punches that day, but technically you can leave the date blank until the conductor comes, that way you have a chance if no conductor asks you for your card (happens quite often) you can save it for the next day :)

4) Swiss Transfer Ticket" This card costs 141 francs and is valid for 2 trips from and to the boarder or airport, for example you are traveling from the airport to Arosa and are not planning to go anywhere else or take any other transportation, with this card you will effectively pay 71 francs per way. This card is only valid for trips to and from the airport or boarder and no (long) stops allowed. Technically if you will travel one more day, the Swiss travel pass mentioned above will probably be cheaper.

Make sure to order your pass a few weeks before leaving, it takes about 1-3 weeks for the pass to arrive. But you can always buy it in the Airport, though you might have to wait in line and also if you want to buy the Youth pass (for 25 y/o or younger) they might ask you for proof...

There is also a family pass if you travel with a large family, I am not familiar with that.


Fast Baggage
There is a service via SBB, They deliver your luggage for you!! For example you are traveling from ZRH to Arosa, you don't want to be busy Shlepping around your luggage, You can check in your luggage in the airport and they (SBB) will deliver it to the train station in Arosa. This service is available "from and to" most train stations in Switzerland. You can ask about the Fast Baggage by any train station or read here or here

You can even buy a tag that you put on the luggage before checking in your luggage in any airport (i.e. JFK) and Rail Europe will take your luggage from the airplane in Switzerland and deliver it either to your hotel or to the train station in the city you're going to.  Read about Flight Luggage Here




PS. When doing research and getting to a website in German, just add /en (after .ch) to translate to English.
And Hey, Don't forget to write a TR ;)

Sample Itinerary for 9 hour stopover on Swiss flight from TLV to U.S. that lands at 810 and takes off around 5
Copied from @cholent:
Here it is: landed in zrh, crazy line for entering country but moved pretty quickly, about half an hour. Picked up sim in the airport. Rented car through Priceline from europecar. Drove to Titlis, stunning scenery along drive. Missed a turnoff because I couldn't get Waze to talk and I was trying to do some stuff online while we were driving, added half an hour to get there, but the stunning scenery made it worthwhile. Got there, parked, you pay at the entrance if you're going to park for more than an hour. Paid, took the cable car. Got off at there halfway station by mistake, gorgeous lake. Went back on and back up to the top. It was somewhat cloudy which was a pity. Suspension bridge was fun but no view because of the clouds. Took the ice flyer to the other peak, then went sledding down the hill, lots of fun. No tubing because there wasn't enough snow. We didn't have enough time for the ice cave because of the extra time driving there and we weren't sure where it was anyway. Made some new Israeli friends and took the cable car down with them. Got back to the airport, returning the car took less than five minutes, getting through the airport took a little longer so we didn't have time for showers at the lounge. It was amazing all around, I would definitely recommend

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2640 on: May 07, 2023, 04:59:42 PM »
I'm traveling to Arosa with 3 adults and 2 children in August. I would love any help with planning etc.
We are seriously considering the Arosa Kulm kosher program. Has anyone stayed with them and can give me information on the program, food etc?
We will be flying from TLV arriving in BSL but leaving from ZRH back to EWR. Any tips on rental cars? We will be 5 people with luggage. I see many options but not sure which will work best for us. Volvo XC90, VW Sharan, Renault grand scenic. Very confusing with sizes of the vehicles and the pricing is all over the place. Any input would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you in advance.

Parking in Arosa is a mess. you need to park on the edge of town (for a fee) and walk back up to your hotel, unless your hotel has a parking lot.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2641 on: May 07, 2023, 05:02:14 PM »
The hotel has a parking lot.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2642 on: May 08, 2023, 05:16:25 PM »
We are choosing between staying in engelberg or st moritz (both kempinski) in August, anyone have experience on which may be a better base? and how annoying are the train transfers if anyone has experience?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2643 on: May 08, 2023, 08:12:50 PM »
Interlaken doesn't have minyan in June to best of my knowledge better of with Davos
If your arriving Friday afternoon to zrh would be tight for either.
Here is an update.
I am staying in Zurich for Shabbos.
I am wondering if I should daytrip to Davos or Interlaken for Sunday.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2644 on: May 08, 2023, 09:24:14 PM »
Here is an update.
I am staying in Zurich for Shabbos.
I am wondering if I should daytrip to Davos or Interlaken for Sunday.
If you have the time you can drive to grindelwald and go up to Jungfrau. If you are with a car and have the time checkout aareschlucht near Interlaken

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2645 on: May 08, 2023, 09:28:37 PM »
Any ideas near arosa? I will have a car.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2646 on: May 08, 2023, 11:23:46 PM »
Any ideas near arosa? I will have a car.

Near Arosa means traveling down a mountain that takes 30-45 minutes. Best is to travel around by train from Arosa to nearby towns.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2647 on: May 08, 2023, 11:38:18 PM »
Any specific towns or areas to see?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2648 on: May 09, 2023, 11:18:37 AM »
If you have the time you can drive to grindelwald and go up to Jungfrau. If you are with a car and have the time checkout aareschlucht near Interlaken
I will not have a car.
Jungfrau is prohibitively expensive.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2649 on: May 09, 2023, 11:43:27 AM »
is it worth it? looks amazing!

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2650 on: May 09, 2023, 12:11:36 PM »
I will not have a car.
Jungfrau is prohibitively expensive.
If you don't have a car and your doing a day trip you can do titlis/engelberg, rigi, or pilatus/Lucerne

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2651 on: May 10, 2023, 03:36:38 PM »
Any ideas near arosa? I will have a car.
how long do you plan on being in Arosa?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2652 on: May 10, 2023, 03:39:55 PM »
1 week

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2653 on: May 12, 2023, 03:52:27 AM »
there are 2 cable cars one is the taller mountain weisenhorn 2 cable cars up to the top for nice views from the middle station nice easy walk down both way on your right you will end up in innerarosa which is were the hotel is the ohter side partchili- maran and take bus back
the other cable car is called hornli express
you can walk to swelesee a nice alpine lake around 30 min from hotel
take the bus down to untersee and walk towards the next village's either langweis or litzuriti and take train back to arosa
all free with you card
i think your car will just be a headache because most of the things you will end in a different place you start
unless you want to go much further out, but remember to do anything you must go all the way down to chur

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2654 on: May 15, 2023, 05:35:03 PM »
Hi everyone,
Does anyone know where there will be a minyan in the swiss alps this year?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2655 on: May 16, 2023, 02:30:14 AM »
Got speeding  ticket from camera  in the mail. It's super expensive. Do I have to pay. Can I go to other EU countries  without  getting in trouble or they work together ?  Any way to get tickets dismissed? Lawyer?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2656 on: May 16, 2023, 03:26:18 AM »
Got speeding  ticket from camera  in the mail. It's super expensive. Do I have to pay. Can I go to other EU countries  without  getting in trouble or they work together ?  Any way to get tickets dismissed? Lawyer?

Lawyer will cost you thousands but it will likely not change the outcome. If you are not a EU citizen, Switzerland will not go after you, but if you travel through Switzerland again you will be stopped by border control and they will not let you go till you pay fine. As far as other EU countries, they are planning to roll out ETIAS travel authorization in 2024. https://travel-europe.europa.eu/etias_en

This new system will monitor all visitors from countries that do not need a visa to enter the Schengen Area.

The system works by screening travelers before their arrival in the Schengen Area. The ETIAS process will determine whether a citizen can enter the Schengen Area,  by cross-checking information against various databases.


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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2657 on: May 16, 2023, 10:24:56 AM »
Galitzky is back at Maloja (St Moritz)

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2658 on: May 16, 2023, 10:28:10 AM »
Hi everyone,
Does anyone know where there will be a minyan in the swiss alps this year?
Which area are you looking at?
Davos, Arosa, Klosters, Engelberg, st. Moritz, SaaS Fee, just to name a few.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2659 on: May 16, 2023, 10:37:18 AM »
Which area are you looking at?
Davos, Arosa, Klosters, Engelberg, st. Moritz, SaaS Fee, just to name a few.
Are they all finishing Rosh Chodesh Elul besides for Davos?