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Zurich
HOTELS
-The Park Hyatt is fantastic and a 10 minute walk to shul.
Tram stop: Stockerstrasse

RESTAURANTS

Meat:

Florentin - Located inside he JCC https://florentin.rest/
Tram stop: Bahnhof Enge

Grill Cave

Food truck. Check website for opening hours. Burgers, sandwiches, hot dogs etc.
https://www.thegrillcave.co/


Milk/Parve:

Babi's Bagels (Bederstrasse corner Klopstockstrasse 8002 Zürich) Tram Stop "Waffenplatzstrasse"

Bakery:
Ma'Adan Bakery
Manessestrasse/Schimmelstrasse
Has delicious pastries and also sells sandwiches, salads, and some sushi.

Butcher:
Metzgerei Kol Tuv

Can preorder for pickup.
Can also deliver throughout Switzerland by post.
See website for details.

https://www.koltuv.ch/en

ATTRACTIONS
-Walk around the lake area
-Bahnhofstrasse window shopping
-Take a train to Lucerne and buy the golden ticket, included a boat ride on Lake Lucerne, cogwheel train and tram. Then take bus back to Lucerne
-When you arrive in Lucerne you can go to the tourist office to see a live view from Mount Pilatus (Or you can check online). If it's cloudy skip the cogwheel train and just take a nice boatride and explore the town, ancient bridges, and walk on top of the old city fortress walls.




Options in the Alps

Arosa: Metropol Hotel - quaint little old hotel. Not very fancy - it's like honeymooning in your grandmother's house (HT: Mrs. Moishebatchy). The food is very basic, but delicious. Mikva on premises. If skiing is your thing, the have an agreement with one of the ski places (Härtner) not to charge Metropol customers for ski rentals over Shabbos.


Need a meal on shabbes, please PM me (Chuchem). I live 15 minute walk from the hyatt, close to chabad. Zürich has no eiruv!

Major Attractions
“Please edit the wiki to add more attractions”

Central Switzerland
-Lucerne, Pilatus Offers: Cogwheel, Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mini Zip-line and fun area
-Titlis Offers: Gondolas, Snow Tubing, Trutti Bikes, Ice Museum, Row Boating
-Brunni Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Stroll in Lake(!)

Jungfrau Region
-Jungfrau/jungfraujoch Click here for the Kosher hotel in Wengen / 360-degree panorama of Jungfraujoch-Top of Europe
-Grindelwald Offers: Gondolas, mega Zip-line, Trutti Bikes

Eastern Switzerland
-St. Moritz
Davos / Klosters
Arosa Click here for the Kosher Levins hotel

Southern Switzerland
-Zermatt - "Matterhorn"
-Saas-Fee Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mega Zip-line, Trotti Bikes, (Saas-Grund has Monster Trotteres) and on top of "Allalin" you can go Snow Tubing and Skiing even in the summer!
-Crans Montana You can email the Kosher hotel in Crans Montana Hotelmk@gmail.com  or call them at 0032485640498 or 003233011600


HalbTax Pass

A HalbTax pass (or Half Fare card) is a card designated for tourists and not for Swiss residents (officially...). The card gives you half price on all public transportation like buses, trains, trams, boats and also on "most" cable cars (attractions). There are basically 4 kinds.

1) An annual pass, the price is currently 175 francs. If i remember correctly it has a photo ID of the recipient, so double check before sharing it.
Click here for the annual pass

2) A 30 day pass, the price is currently 120 francs, it does not have a photo ID on it.
Click here or here for the 30 day pass

3) - Recommended for frequent traveling Swiss Travel Pass - you prepay a set amount per day and get unlimited for that day (plus "optional" for a fee, for 1 month including the days you chose, it is a HalbTax, even on the prepaid free days, it's only free for all transportation, on cable cars you only get half off). The price per day depends on how many days you prepay, for example if you prepay 8 days, the price per day will be about 53 francs, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 73 francs. If you are 25 y/o or younger, you can get the Youth Pass which is cheaper - If you prepay 8 days  the price per day will be about 40 francs a day, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 62 francs.
Click here (or here) for the prepaid pass

The card comes with a few days “you could chose your dates later”, officially when you want to use a certain day for the free day you should fill in on the pass that date, and when the first conductor comes he punches that day, but technically you can leave the date blank until the conductor comes, that way you have a chance if no conductor asks you for your card (happens quite often) you can save it for the next day :)

4) Swiss Transfer Ticket" This card costs 141 francs and is valid for 2 trips from and to the boarder or airport, for example you are traveling from the airport to Arosa and are not planning to go anywhere else or take any other transportation, with this card you will effectively pay 71 francs per way. This card is only valid for trips to and from the airport or boarder and no (long) stops allowed. Technically if you will travel one more day, the Swiss travel pass mentioned above will probably be cheaper.

Make sure to order your pass a few weeks before leaving, it takes about 1-3 weeks for the pass to arrive. But you can always buy it in the Airport, though you might have to wait in line and also if you want to buy the Youth pass (for 25 y/o or younger) they might ask you for proof...

There is also a family pass if you travel with a large family, I am not familiar with that.


Fast Baggage
There is a service via SBB, They deliver your luggage for you!! For example you are traveling from ZRH to Arosa, you don't want to be busy Shlepping around your luggage, You can check in your luggage in the airport and they (SBB) will deliver it to the train station in Arosa. This service is available "from and to" most train stations in Switzerland. You can ask about the Fast Baggage by any train station or read here or here

You can even buy a tag that you put on the luggage before checking in your luggage in any airport (i.e. JFK) and Rail Europe will take your luggage from the airplane in Switzerland and deliver it either to your hotel or to the train station in the city you're going to.  Read about Flight Luggage Here




PS. When doing research and getting to a website in German, just add /en (after .ch) to translate to English.
And Hey, Don't forget to write a TR ;)

Sample Itinerary for 9 hour stopover on Swiss flight from TLV to U.S. that lands at 810 and takes off around 5
Copied from @cholent:
Here it is: landed in zrh, crazy line for entering country but moved pretty quickly, about half an hour. Picked up sim in the airport. Rented car through Priceline from europecar. Drove to Titlis, stunning scenery along drive. Missed a turnoff because I couldn't get Waze to talk and I was trying to do some stuff online while we were driving, added half an hour to get there, but the stunning scenery made it worthwhile. Got there, parked, you pay at the entrance if you're going to park for more than an hour. Paid, took the cable car. Got off at there halfway station by mistake, gorgeous lake. Went back on and back up to the top. It was somewhat cloudy which was a pity. Suspension bridge was fun but no view because of the clouds. Took the ice flyer to the other peak, then went sledding down the hill, lots of fun. No tubing because there wasn't enough snow. We didn't have enough time for the ice cave because of the extra time driving there and we weren't sure where it was anyway. Made some new Israeli friends and took the cable car down with them. Got back to the airport, returning the car took less than five minutes, getting through the airport took a little longer so we didn't have time for showers at the lounge. It was amazing all around, I would definitely recommend

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2660 on: May 16, 2023, 11:05:11 AM »
I'm looking for Nendaz, Crans Montana, or Saas Grund.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2661 on: May 16, 2023, 11:15:50 AM »
Or maybe Grindelwald, Wengen.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2662 on: May 16, 2023, 11:41:25 AM »
Are they all finishing Rosh Chodesh Elul besides for Davos?
starguest in engelberg and st moritz is going through August 27 so a bit later. didnt see others.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2663 on: May 16, 2023, 12:01:23 PM »
starguest in engelberg and st moritz is going through August 27 so a bit later. didnt see others.
Thanks.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2664 on: May 16, 2023, 03:34:03 PM »
Hi everyone,
Does anyone know where there will be a minyan in the swiss alps this year?

Too early to know.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2665 on: May 16, 2023, 05:02:16 PM »
Can i get an Engadin summer pass for free when staying in an apartment not in a hotel? if yes...how to know which apartments give that?


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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2666 on: May 16, 2023, 06:56:07 PM »
Can i get an Engadin summer pass for free when staying in an apartment not in a hotel? if yes...how to know which apartments give that?
Certain apartments come with it. Search on the Engadin.ch website, they will show you which apartments come with it.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2667 on: May 17, 2023, 09:36:48 AM »
I'm looking for Nendaz, Crans Montana, or Saas Grund.
Crans also 'usually' has Minyan. Saas grund has, otherwise Daven at Saas Fee... It's primarily an Antwerp crowd, so ask someone from Antwerp.

Wengen, forget it. I wish it did have

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2668 on: May 17, 2023, 12:18:02 PM »
I'm looking for Nendaz, Crans Montana, or Saas Grund.

In a few weeks you'll be abe to see all summer  Minyanim in the local jewish newspaper

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2669 on: May 19, 2023, 03:03:01 AM »
I've had best luck booking car rentals from autoeurope.com
there hasnt been much i could find here on rental cars in switzerland beyond some places dont allow cars so u park before the village, and u gotta be careful about speeding/going over lines bc they take pictures everywhere. anyone have more detailed experience? do i need to get a letter for insurance from chase sapphire to save on added insurance they will push on me? autoeurope came out expensive for me but i found some options through autoslash, are there better options? Im going for 6 days with a total of 10 people including 2 peoople over 70 and a less than 1 year old, so my cheshbon is the train costs and the hassle seems more than getting a big van or possibly 2 cars (and also save time waiting for trains).

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2670 on: May 19, 2023, 07:21:03 AM »
there hasnt been much i could find here on rental cars in switzerland beyond some places dont allow cars so u park before the village, and u gotta be careful about speeding/going over lines bc they take pictures everywhere. anyone have more detailed experience? do i need to get a letter for insurance from chase sapphire to save on added insurance they will push on me? autoeurope came out expensive for me but i found some options through autoslash, are there better options? Im going for 6 days with a total of 10 people including 2 peoople over 70 and a less than 1 year old, so my cheshbon is the train costs and the hassle seems more than getting a big van or possibly 2 cars (and also save time waiting for trains).
Probably better off getting a driver to and from the destination, and just use the trains/busses there to get around. If you do rent, road signs are very clear and no letter from credit card needed.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2671 on: May 28, 2023, 03:36:42 PM »
Another program in St. Moritz area

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2672 on: May 29, 2023, 11:12:10 AM »
Probably better off getting a driver to and from the destination, and just use the trains/busses there to get around. If you do rent, road signs are very clear and no letter from credit card needed.
it looks like trains are very expensive, no? showing like $40+ roundtrip for trains just engelberg to lucerne per person. any recommendations on a driver from airport to engelberg (i would assume that would cost a ton, and we are 9-10 people so not sure we could fit anyway). 

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2673 on: May 29, 2023, 11:13:39 AM »
it looks like trains are very expensive, no? showing like $40+ roundtrip for trains just engelberg to lucerne per person. any recommendations on a driver from airport to engelberg (i would assume that would cost a ton, and we are 9-10 people so not sure we could fit anyway).

There are many programs to bring down train costs. There are children Grand children passes. Half tax programs where you pay half. There are unlimited passes etc.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2674 on: May 29, 2023, 03:05:12 PM »
it looks like trains are very expensive, no? showing like $40+ roundtrip for trains just engelberg to lucerne per person. any recommendations on a driver from airport to engelberg (i would assume that would cost a ton, and we are 9-10 people so not sure we could fit anyway).
I'm confused. What is your destination? Engleberg or Lucerne?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2675 on: May 29, 2023, 03:29:08 PM »
I'm confused. What is your destination? Engleberg or Lucerne?
staying in engelberg but want to travel to brienz, grindelwald, Lucerne etc with a posse of 10 people. Seems train tickets will add up, and we are traveling with a baby and 2 grand parents that aren’t so mobile. I checked pricing and my teens will be the same $40 for lucerne. Big van is about $200 a day.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2676 on: May 29, 2023, 03:44:24 PM »
staying in engelberg but want to travel to brienz, grindelwald, Lucerne etc with a posse of 10 people. Seems train tickets will add up, and we are traveling with a baby and 2 grand parents that aren’t so mobile. I checked pricing and my teens will be the same $40 for lucerne. Big van is about $200 a day.
If your party is so large, a van may make sense. But there are many options for discounted train tickets. With half fare passes for adults, children are completely free. Seniors are also cheaper. There are also group rates. There are also passes for regions. There are also Swiss Travel Passes with different options for length. There are also "guest cards" that your hotel can give that cover for your region (depends on each region, every one has different promotions).

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2677 on: May 29, 2023, 10:20:03 PM »
A tour for Heimishe single girls is being organized for this summer:




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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2678 on: May 30, 2023, 11:17:36 AM »
which area in the Alps is the most scenic?

Jungfrau region

Zerrmet

3 Valees

Val disere

St Moritz

Chamonix

La plange

Dolomites

Pls answer only if you already visited some of these places


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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2679 on: May 31, 2023, 08:32:56 AM »
which area in the Alps is the most scenic?

Jungfrau region

Zerrmet

3 Valees

Val disere

St Moritz

Chamonix

La plange

Dolomites

Pls answer only if you already visited some of these places

Ranking in my preference:  Chamonix, Jungfrau, Saas Fee, Zermatt. 

But then again, for some reason some people rank St. Moritz on top, and I been there many times, and I wasn't impressed (other than getting away from the heatwaves in Zürich.