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Zurich
HOTELS
-The Park Hyatt is fantastic and a 10 minute walk to shul.
Tram stop: Stockerstrasse

RESTAURANTS

Meat:

Olive Garden - Located inside he JCC
Tram stop: Bahnhof Enge


Milk/Parve:

Fein und Schein - cafe type of place; ambience lacking, but hey, food is food

Bagels and Co.  (Bederstrasse corner Klopstockstrasse 8002 Zürich) Tram Stop "Waffenplatzstrasse"

Books & Bagels - combination bagel shop and judaica store

Bakery:
Ma'Adan Bakery. Has delicious pastries and also sells sandwiches, salads, and some sushi.

Butcher:
Kol Tuv. Can preorder for pickup.
Can also deliver throughout Switzerland by post.
See website for details.

https://www.koltuv.ch/en

ATTRACTIONS
-Walk around the lake area
-Bahnhofstrasse window shopping
-Take a train to Lucerne and buy the golden ticket, included a boat ride on Lake Lucerne, cogwheel train and tram. Then take bus back to Lucerne
-When you arrive in Lucerne you can go to the tourist office to see a live view from Mount Pilatus (Or you can check online). If it's cloudy skip the cogwheel train and just take a nice boatride and explore the town, ancient bridges, and walk on top of the old city fortress walls.




Options in the Alps

Arosa: Metropol Hotel - quaint little old hotel. Not very fancy - it's like honeymooning in your grandmother's house (HT: Mrs. Moishebatchy). The food is very basic, but delicious. Mikva on premises. If skiing is your thing, the have an agreement with one of the ski places (Härtner) not to charge Metropol customers for ski rentals over Shabbos.


Need a meal on shabbes, please PM me (Chuchem). I live 15 minute walk from the hyatt, close to chabad. Zürich has no eiruv!

Major Attractions
“Please edit the wiki to add more attractions”

Central Switzerland
-Lucerne, Pilatus Offers: Cogwheel, Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mini Zip-line and fun area
-Titlis Offers: Gondolas, Snow Tubing, Trutti Bikes, Ice Museum, Row Boating
-Brunni Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Stroll in Lake(!)

Jungfrau Region
-Jungfrau/jungfraujoch Click here for the Kosher hotel in Wengen / 360-degree panorama of Jungfraujoch-Top of Europe
-Grindelwald Offers: Gondolas, mega Zip-line, Trutti Bikes

Eastern Switzerland
-St. Moritz
Davos / Klosters
Arosa Click here for the Kosher Levins hotel

Southern Switzerland
-Zermatt - "Matterhorn"
-Saas-Fee Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mega Zip-line, Trotti Bikes, (Saas-Grund has Monster Trotteres) and on top of "Allalin" you can go Snow Tubing and Skiing even in the summer!
-Crans Montana You can email the Kosher hotel in Crans Montana Hotelmk@gmail.com  or call them at 0032485640498 or 003233011600


HalbTax Pass

A HalbTax pass (or Half Fare card) is a card designated for tourists and not for Swiss residents (officially...). The card gives you half price on all public transportation like buses, trains, trams, boats and also on "most" cable cars (attractions). There are basically 4 kinds.

1) An annual pass, the price is currently 175 francs. If i remember correctly it has a photo ID of the recipient, so double check before sharing it.
Click here for the annual pass

2) A 30 day pass, the price is currently 120 francs, it does not have a photo ID on it.
Click here or here for the 30 day pass

3) - Recommended for frequent traveling Swiss Travel Pass - you prepay a set amount per day and get unlimited for that day (plus "optional" for a fee, for 1 month including the days you chose, it is a HalbTax, even on the prepaid free days, it's only free for all transportation, on cable cars you only get half off). The price per day depends on how many days you prepay, for example if you prepay 8 days, the price per day will be about 53 francs, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 73 francs. If you are 25 y/o or younger, you can get the Youth Pass which is cheaper - If you prepay 8 days  the price per day will be about 40 francs a day, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 62 francs.
Click here (or here) for the prepaid pass

The card comes with a few days “you could chose your dates later”, officially when you want to use a certain day for the free day you should fill in on the pass that date, and when the first conductor comes he punches that day, but technically you can leave the date blank until the conductor comes, that way you have a chance if no conductor asks you for your card (happens quite often) you can save it for the next day :)

4) Swiss Transfer Ticket" This card costs 141 francs and is valid for 2 trips from and to the boarder or airport, for example you are traveling from the airport to Arosa and are not planning to go anywhere else or take any other transportation, with this card you will effectively pay 71 francs per way. This card is only valid for trips to and from the airport or boarder and no (long) stops allowed. Technically if you will travel one more day, the Swiss travel pass mentioned above will probably be cheaper.

Make sure to order your pass a few weeks before leaving, it takes about 1-3 weeks for the pass to arrive. But you can always buy it in the Airport, though you might have to wait in line and also if you want to buy the Youth pass (for 25 y/o or younger) they might ask you for proof...

There is also a family pass if you travel with a large family, I am not familiar with that.


Fast Baggage
There is a service via SBB, They deliver your luggage for you!! For example you are traveling from ZRH to Arosa, you don't want to be busy Shlepping around your luggage, You can check in your luggage in the airport and they (SBB) will deliver it to the train station in Arosa. This service is available "from and to" most train stations in Switzerland. You can ask about the Fast Baggage by any train station or read here or here

You can even buy a tag that you put on the luggage before checking in your luggage in any airport (i.e. JFK) and Rail Europe will take your luggage from the airplane in Switzerland and deliver it either to your hotel or to the train station in the city you're going to.  Read about Flight Luggage Here




PS. When doing research and getting to a website in German, just add /en (after .ch) to translate to English.
And Hey, Don't forget to write a TR ;)

Sample Itinerary for 9 hour stopover on Swiss flight from TLV to U.S. that lands at 810 and takes off around 5
Copied from @cholent:
Here it is: landed in zrh, crazy line for entering country but moved pretty quickly, about half an hour. Picked up sim in the airport. Rented car through Priceline from europecar. Drove to Titlis, stunning scenery along drive. Missed a turnoff because I couldn't get Waze to talk and I was trying to do some stuff online while we were driving, added half an hour to get there, but the stunning scenery made it worthwhile. Got there, parked, you pay at the entrance if you're going to park for more than an hour. Paid, took the cable car. Got off at there halfway station by mistake, gorgeous lake. Went back on and back up to the top. It was somewhat cloudy which was a pity. Suspension bridge was fun but no view because of the clouds. Took the ice flyer to the other peak, then went sledding down the hill, lots of fun. No tubing because there wasn't enough snow. We didn't have enough time for the ice cave because of the extra time driving there and we weren't sure where it was anyway. Made some new Israeli friends and took the cable car down with them. Got back to the airport, returning the car took less than five minutes, getting through the airport took a little longer so we didn't have time for showers at the lounge. It was amazing all around, I would definitely recommend

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #280 on: December 07, 2011, 07:13:00 AM »
Don't forget to eat at fein by shein or whatever the place is called. Not too overpriced
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #281 on: December 07, 2011, 09:27:36 AM »
Don't forget to eat at fein by shein or whatever the place is called. Not too overpriced

not overtasty either, but after airlines meals it will do.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #282 on: December 07, 2011, 09:42:20 AM »
not overtasty either
I beg to differ
What's now adays in the ex. Shalom resturant in the JCC?
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #283 on: December 07, 2011, 12:31:16 PM »
Just make sure its not cloudy that day, or else the train and ride up pilatus will be a waste of alot of money!
+1.
The visitors center in the train station will show you a live you from on top of pilatus and you'll be able to see if it's cloudy or clear.
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #284 on: December 08, 2011, 03:03:36 AM »
I believe I once saw a livecam on the internet, so you'd save yourself a trip.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #285 on: December 10, 2011, 01:40:29 PM »
Anyone got any idea what and where the kosher hotels are like?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #286 on: December 11, 2011, 09:07:59 AM »
Ok. Il be more specific i want to go for a midweek break to the alps, i need a hotel that has good food decent, I'v heard that arosa is crumy but is the best, anyone been to somewhere else and can recomend it?
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #287 on: December 11, 2011, 09:10:08 AM »
If you want to have a good time, bring your food & stay at a non-kosher hotel
Kempinski in St. Moritz is my favorite, excellent value. If the Edelweiss hotel is open on your dates, they serve kosher meals & are only a few minutes away
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #288 on: December 11, 2011, 09:41:59 AM »
Isnt edelweiss closed? What is the maleh of going to a Non jewish hotel? I cant use the spa coz its mixed the food is not touchable?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #289 on: December 11, 2011, 09:46:28 AM »
Nice hotel?
Pools are often empty IME
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #290 on: December 11, 2011, 09:55:18 AM »
but no food, and belive me my house is the best place to stay in! lol what im looking for is a decent place that has decent food decent price and beautiful mounts, Iv heard arosa is the best will anyone confirm or does anyone have any other ideas?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #291 on: December 11, 2011, 10:03:18 AM »
You'll get a half the price at a non-kosher hotel of the same caliber. To each is own though.
Never been to Arosa, but St. Moritz is supposed to be nicer (again, if the Edelwiess is still there)
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #292 on: December 11, 2011, 11:17:43 AM »
edelweiss closed down


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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #293 on: December 11, 2011, 12:36:04 PM »
So st moritz is out of the deal, and we are back to square one! Any ideas? 

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #294 on: December 12, 2011, 03:31:51 AM »
Well, jews always stick to st-moritz for some reason.

Ask the real mavinim (swiss nationality does not mean anything), and they will send you to Wallis/Valais kanton, which also has the best chance for nice weather.

Depending on the time you want to go, try going to Cranz Montana, some dude meir klein has a hotel there.


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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #295 on: December 12, 2011, 03:38:46 AM »
For the latter, I'd fly to GVA (Geneva).

It does not need to break your ticket, as GVA connects well to the other airports around.

(If renting a car there, look for both GVA and GVV* as the price differences can be enormous.
Note: the GVA rental has more chance of having winter tires which isn't just luxury if going in the winter, and high up.

*GVV is a little enclave in Geneva Airport which belongs to France [as opposed to Switzerland] which is a bit of a headache to use)

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #296 on: December 12, 2011, 06:33:30 AM »
Thanks for the info any more details about this hotel/meir klein?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #297 on: December 12, 2011, 06:42:25 AM »
Oh and food quantity/quality

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #298 on: December 12, 2011, 12:12:32 PM »
Hotelmk*#"atgmail.com

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #299 on: December 12, 2011, 12:33:29 PM »
Here his number, do not use me as a referral pls: +32485640498