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Zurich
HOTELS
-The Park Hyatt is fantastic and a 10 minute walk to shul.
Tram stop: Stockerstrasse

RESTAURANTS

Meat:

Florentin - Located inside he JCC https://florentin.rest/
Tram stop: Bahnhof Enge

Grill Cave

Food truck. Check website for opening hours. Burgers, sandwiches, hot dogs etc.
https://www.thegrillcave.co/


Milk/Parve:

Babi's Bagels (Bederstrasse corner Klopstockstrasse 8002 Zürich) Tram Stop "Waffenplatzstrasse"

Bakery:
Ma'Adan Bakery
Manessestrasse/Schimmelstrasse
Has delicious pastries and also sells sandwiches, salads, and some sushi.

Butcher:
Metzgerei Kol Tuv

Can preorder for pickup.
Can also deliver throughout Switzerland by post.
See website for details.

https://www.koltuv.ch/en

Shabbos Takeout:
Oneg Shabbos.

Can usually ship throughout Switzerland (through the post, obviously packaging may be difficult and items can leak).

They come up every Friday in season to Davos and can purchase in the shul. Usually at Schiaweg.

Email is Oinegshabbes@gmail.com.

ATTRACTIONS
-Walk around the lake area
-Bahnhofstrasse window shopping
-Take a train to Lucerne and buy the golden ticket, included a boat ride on Lake Lucerne, cogwheel train and tram. Then take bus back to Lucerne
-When you arrive in Lucerne you can go to the tourist office to see a live view from Mount Pilatus (Or you can check online). If it's cloudy skip the cogwheel train and just take a nice boatride and explore the town, ancient bridges, and walk on top of the old city fortress walls.




Options in the Alps

Arosa: Metropol Hotel - quaint little old hotel. Not very fancy - it's like honeymooning in your grandmother's house (HT: Mrs. Moishebatchy). The food is very basic, but delicious. Mikva on premises. If skiing is your thing, the have an agreement with one of the ski places (Härtner) not to charge Metropol customers for ski rentals over Shabbos.


Need a meal on shabbes, please PM me (Chuchem). I live 15 minute walk from the hyatt, close to chabad. Zürich has no eiruv!

Major Attractions
“Please edit the wiki to add more attractions”

Central Switzerland
-Lucerne, Pilatus Offers: Cogwheel, Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mini Zip-line and fun area
-Titlis Offers: Gondolas, Snow Tubing, Trutti Bikes, Ice Museum, Row Boating
-Brunni Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Stroll in Lake(!)

Jungfrau Region
-Jungfrau/jungfraujoch Click here for the Kosher hotel in Wengen / 360-degree panorama of Jungfraujoch-Top of Europe
-Grindelwald Offers: Gondolas, mega Zip-line, Trutti Bikes

Eastern Switzerland
-St. Moritz
Davos / Klosters
Arosa Click here for the Kosher Levins hotel

Southern Switzerland
-Zermatt - "Matterhorn"
-Saas-Fee Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mega Zip-line, Trotti Bikes, (Saas-Grund has Monster Trotteres) and on top of "Allalin" you can go Snow Tubing and Skiing even in the summer!
-Crans Montana You can email the Kosher hotel in Crans Montana Hotelmk@gmail.com  or call them at 0032485640498 or 003233011600


HalbTax Pass

A HalbTax pass (or Half Fare card) is a card designated for tourists and not for Swiss residents (officially...). The card gives you half price on all public transportation like buses, trains, trams, boats and also on "most" cable cars (attractions). There are basically 4 kinds.

1) An annual pass, the price is currently 175 francs. If i remember correctly it has a photo ID of the recipient, so double check before sharing it.
Click here for the annual pass

2) A 30 day pass, the price is currently 120 francs, it does not have a photo ID on it.
Click here or here for the 30 day pass

3) - Recommended for frequent traveling Swiss Travel Pass - you prepay a set amount per day and get unlimited for that day (plus "optional" for a fee, for 1 month including the days you chose, it is a HalbTax, even on the prepaid free days, it's only free for all transportation, on cable cars you only get half off). The price per day depends on how many days you prepay, for example if you prepay 8 days, the price per day will be about 53 francs, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 73 francs. If you are 25 y/o or younger, you can get the Youth Pass which is cheaper - If you prepay 8 days  the price per day will be about 40 francs a day, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 62 francs.
Click here (or here) for the prepaid pass

The card comes with a few days “you could chose your dates later”, officially when you want to use a certain day for the free day you should fill in on the pass that date, and when the first conductor comes he punches that day, but technically you can leave the date blank until the conductor comes, that way you have a chance if no conductor asks you for your card (happens quite often) you can save it for the next day :)

4) Swiss Transfer Ticket" This card costs 141 francs and is valid for 2 trips from and to the boarder or airport, for example you are traveling from the airport to Arosa and are not planning to go anywhere else or take any other transportation, with this card you will effectively pay 71 francs per way. This card is only valid for trips to and from the airport or boarder and no (long) stops allowed. Technically if you will travel one more day, the Swiss travel pass mentioned above will probably be cheaper.

Make sure to order your pass a few weeks before leaving, it takes about 1-3 weeks for the pass to arrive. But you can always buy it in the Airport, though you might have to wait in line and also if you want to buy the Youth pass (for 25 y/o or younger) they might ask you for proof...

There is also a family pass if you travel with a large family, I am not familiar with that.


Fast Baggage
There is a service via SBB, They deliver your luggage for you!! For example you are traveling from ZRH to Arosa, you don't want to be busy Shlepping around your luggage, You can check in your luggage in the airport and they (SBB) will deliver it to the train station in Arosa. This service is available "from and to" most train stations in Switzerland. You can ask about the Fast Baggage by any train station or read here or here

You can even buy a tag that you put on the luggage before checking in your luggage in any airport (i.e. JFK) and Rail Europe will take your luggage from the airplane in Switzerland and deliver it either to your hotel or to the train station in the city you're going to.  Read about Flight Luggage Here




PS. When doing research and getting to a website in German, just add /en (after .ch) to translate to English.
And Hey, Don't forget to write a TR ;)

Sample Itinerary for 9 hour stopover on Swiss flight from TLV to U.S. that lands at 810 and takes off around 5
Copied from @cholent:
Here it is: landed in zrh, crazy line for entering country but moved pretty quickly, about half an hour. Picked up sim in the airport. Rented car through Priceline from europecar. Drove to Titlis, stunning scenery along drive. Missed a turnoff because I couldn't get Waze to talk and I was trying to do some stuff online while we were driving, added half an hour to get there, but the stunning scenery made it worthwhile. Got there, parked, you pay at the entrance if you're going to park for more than an hour. Paid, took the cable car. Got off at there halfway station by mistake, gorgeous lake. Went back on and back up to the top. It was somewhat cloudy which was a pity. Suspension bridge was fun but no view because of the clouds. Took the ice flyer to the other peak, then went sledding down the hill, lots of fun. No tubing because there wasn't enough snow. We didn't have enough time for the ice cave because of the extra time driving there and we weren't sure where it was anyway. Made some new Israeli friends and took the cable car down with them. Got back to the airport, returning the car took less than five minutes, getting through the airport took a little longer so we didn't have time for showers at the lounge. It was amazing all around, I would definitely recommend

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2900 on: June 28, 2024, 06:35:35 PM »
What type of "food"? If you're in season you can purchase raw materials in some of the non Jewish stores. You can also order takeout for Shabbos. The butcher/grocery also ship from Zurich if you're not in season.

Contact to order takeout for shabbos please? Thanks

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2901 on: June 28, 2024, 06:43:49 PM »
Contact to order takeout for shabbos please? Thanks
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2902 on: June 30, 2024, 04:16:51 PM »
Is there a place to buy kosher food in saas fee? Anything more then the food you can buy in denner or coop?

Speaking about Saas-Fee. 15 minutes by car is Saas-Grund, where many Jidden go on summer holidays.
Saas-Grund has been badly damaged by the weather, covered with mud and rubble. Access roads are closed.
Wonder how long it will take to get back to normal

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2903 on: July 01, 2024, 10:13:42 PM »
Does anyone  have experience  with Starguest? Is their food good? Plentiful?  Are they pleasant  to deal with? Please PM me if you are going to say anything  negative  (as with respect to me, it is relevant,  and therefore  not lashon hara).
Thank you.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2904 on: July 01, 2024, 10:16:27 PM »
Which is nicer in the summer, Engelberg or St. Moritz?  Which has more/better activities for individuals who are not into heavy hiking  or thrill type of activities?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2905 on: July 02, 2024, 01:27:41 AM »
Which is nicer in the summer, Engelberg or St. Moritz?  Which has more/better activities for individuals who are not into heavy hiking  or thrill type of activities?
St. Moritz is nicer, Engelberg area has more activities.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2906 on: July 02, 2024, 05:23:07 PM »
is there a minyan in summer shabbos near in AlpenGold Davos ?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2907 on: July 02, 2024, 05:55:58 PM »
We have been unburdened by what has been.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2908 on: July 02, 2024, 08:48:03 PM »

If there's no names then what's the point of this? To ask the hotel how the Mashgiach looks like? If the Rav Hamachshir is doing his job, we shouldn't have to go and see who the Mashgiach is.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2909 on: July 05, 2024, 12:30:59 AM »
Hi,
Does anyone know of a kosher restaurant in Geneva that's open all week?
(not like Le Jardin which is only open some hours of the day)

Thank you!

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2910 on: July 07, 2024, 04:05:23 PM »
Im renting a Minivan in Zurich airport in August and wondering if anyone has experience with any of the car rentals there. I'm between, Hertz, National and Europcar.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2911 on: July 08, 2024, 08:03:56 AM »
Hi,
Does anyone know of a kosher restaurant in Geneva that's open all week?
(not like Le Jardin which is only open some hours of the day)

Thank you!

The Swiss culture, restaurants are usually only opened 12pm-2pm and 6pm-9pm.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2912 on: July 08, 2024, 09:18:07 AM »
Im renting a Minivan in Zurich airport in August and wondering if anyone has experience with any of the car rentals there. I'm between, Hertz, National and Europcar.

I would (in no order of preference) to stick to the more recognized brands such as Hertz, Europcar, or Sixt. More important than choosing which car rental company, please do your diligence in learning the Swiss traffic regulations, as there are thousands of cameras that enforce traffic regulations, else you will end up thousands in fines. (pay attention to speed limits, never cross or drive over an unbroken security line (white or yellow) Treat them like a brick wall. Before a traffic signal, often the security lines are unbroken - so it would not be legal to change lanes. Traffic lights turn yellow to red in 3 seconds. And note, you have to pay for parking everywhere. You are allowed to park in blue zones for free Mon-Sat from 8am until 6pm for an hour - you will have a parking disc in the car, where you set your arrival time to the next half hour period.  Stop for pedestrians at a crosswalk, even if they haven't yet stepped into the street (unless there is a traffic signal). Seat belts are required both for front and rear passengers. Children under 12 years old need a special seat if they’re under 150 cm tall (59 inches). Overtaking on the motorway on the right is prohibited. And note, some villages in the Alps are car free - like Zermatt, Saas Fee, Wengen, Mürren  (there is a central parking place before the village). And there are places like Arosa, where driving between 12am to 6am is strictly prohibited.

see: https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Driving_in_Switzerland
https://www.parking.ch/en/footer/around-the-car

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2913 on: July 08, 2024, 09:26:06 AM »
Thanks for the information. I have driven before in Switzerland so my question was more about the rental car companies that are in the Zurich airport.

Thank you,

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2914 on: July 12, 2024, 09:21:14 AM »
Did anyone hear about royal dream progarm in france? is it good i know its on the cheap side but is there food edible? and what about the area is there things to do there? could you go with out a car?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2915 on: July 12, 2024, 09:38:39 AM »
Did anyone hear about royal dream progarm in france? is it good i know its on the cheap side but is there food edible? and what about the area is there things to do there? could you go with out a car?
I am not familiar with this program,
But apparently in the same area as Wreschner.
https://wreschner.com/

You could go without a car, but public transportation isn't good there. There are local busses but that's about it.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2916 on: July 12, 2024, 09:48:41 AM »
is there enough to do in the area or evreything is outside the area and i need  transportation?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2917 on: July 12, 2024, 10:40:46 AM »
Contact to order takeout for shabbos please? Thanks

Send me PM

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2918 on: July 12, 2024, 10:42:18 AM »
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You can PM - I just found out there's someone organising and delivering

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2919 on: July 12, 2024, 12:15:40 PM »
Did anyone hear about royal dream progarm in france? is it good i know its on the cheap side but is there food edible? and what about the area is there things to do there? could you go with out a car?

its a nice area was in the area last year,