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Zurich
HOTELS
-The Park Hyatt is fantastic and a 10 minute walk to shul.
Tram stop: Stockerstrasse

RESTAURANTS

Meat:

Florentin - Located inside he JCC https://florentin.rest/
Tram stop: Bahnhof Enge

Grill Cave

Food truck. Check website for opening hours. Burgers, sandwiches, hot dogs etc.
https://www.thegrillcave.co/


Milk/Parve:

Babi's Bagels (Bederstrasse corner Klopstockstrasse 8002 Zürich) Tram Stop "Waffenplatzstrasse"

Bakery:
Ma'Adan Bakery
Manessestrasse/Schimmelstrasse
Has delicious pastries and also sells sandwiches, salads, and some sushi.

Butcher:
Metzgerei Kol Tuv

Can preorder for pickup.
Can also deliver throughout Switzerland by post.
See website for details.

https://www.koltuv.ch/en

Shabbos Takeout:
Oneg Shabbos.

Can usually ship throughout Switzerland (through the post, obviously packaging may be difficult and items can leak).

They come up every Friday in season to Davos and can purchase in the shul. Usually at Schiaweg.

Email is Oinegshabbes@gmail.com.

ATTRACTIONS
-Walk around the lake area
-Bahnhofstrasse window shopping
-Take a train to Lucerne and buy the golden ticket, included a boat ride on Lake Lucerne, cogwheel train and tram. Then take bus back to Lucerne
-When you arrive in Lucerne you can go to the tourist office to see a live view from Mount Pilatus (Or you can check online). If it's cloudy skip the cogwheel train and just take a nice boatride and explore the town, ancient bridges, and walk on top of the old city fortress walls.




Options in the Alps

Arosa: Metropol Hotel - quaint little old hotel. Not very fancy - it's like honeymooning in your grandmother's house (HT: Mrs. Moishebatchy). The food is very basic, but delicious. Mikva on premises. If skiing is your thing, the have an agreement with one of the ski places (Härtner) not to charge Metropol customers for ski rentals over Shabbos.


Need a meal on shabbes, please PM me (Chuchem). I live 15 minute walk from the hyatt, close to chabad. Zürich has no eiruv!

Major Attractions
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Central Switzerland
-Lucerne, Pilatus Offers: Cogwheel, Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mini Zip-line and fun area
-Titlis Offers: Gondolas, Snow Tubing, Trutti Bikes, Ice Museum, Row Boating
-Brunni Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Stroll in Lake(!)

Jungfrau Region
-Jungfrau/jungfraujoch Click here for the Kosher hotel in Wengen / 360-degree panorama of Jungfraujoch-Top of Europe
-Grindelwald Offers: Gondolas, mega Zip-line, Trutti Bikes

Eastern Switzerland
-St. Moritz
Davos / Klosters
Arosa Click here for the Kosher Levins hotel

Southern Switzerland
-Zermatt - "Matterhorn"
-Saas-Fee Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mega Zip-line, Trotti Bikes, (Saas-Grund has Monster Trotteres) and on top of "Allalin" you can go Snow Tubing and Skiing even in the summer!
-Crans Montana You can email the Kosher hotel in Crans Montana Hotelmk@gmail.com  or call them at 0032485640498 or 003233011600


HalbTax Pass

A HalbTax pass (or Half Fare card) is a card designated for tourists and not for Swiss residents (officially...). The card gives you half price on all public transportation like buses, trains, trams, boats and also on "most" cable cars (attractions). There are basically 4 kinds.

1) An annual pass, the price is currently 175 francs. If i remember correctly it has a photo ID of the recipient, so double check before sharing it.
Click here for the annual pass

2) A 30 day pass, the price is currently 120 francs, it does not have a photo ID on it.
Click here or here for the 30 day pass

3) - Recommended for frequent traveling Swiss Travel Pass - you prepay a set amount per day and get unlimited for that day (plus "optional" for a fee, for 1 month including the days you chose, it is a HalbTax, even on the prepaid free days, it's only free for all transportation, on cable cars you only get half off). The price per day depends on how many days you prepay, for example if you prepay 8 days, the price per day will be about 53 francs, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 73 francs. If you are 25 y/o or younger, you can get the Youth Pass which is cheaper - If you prepay 8 days  the price per day will be about 40 francs a day, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 62 francs.
Click here (or here) for the prepaid pass

The card comes with a few days “you could chose your dates later”, officially when you want to use a certain day for the free day you should fill in on the pass that date, and when the first conductor comes he punches that day, but technically you can leave the date blank until the conductor comes, that way you have a chance if no conductor asks you for your card (happens quite often) you can save it for the next day :)

4) Swiss Transfer Ticket" This card costs 141 francs and is valid for 2 trips from and to the boarder or airport, for example you are traveling from the airport to Arosa and are not planning to go anywhere else or take any other transportation, with this card you will effectively pay 71 francs per way. This card is only valid for trips to and from the airport or boarder and no (long) stops allowed. Technically if you will travel one more day, the Swiss travel pass mentioned above will probably be cheaper.

Make sure to order your pass a few weeks before leaving, it takes about 1-3 weeks for the pass to arrive. But you can always buy it in the Airport, though you might have to wait in line and also if you want to buy the Youth pass (for 25 y/o or younger) they might ask you for proof...

There is also a family pass if you travel with a large family, I am not familiar with that.


Fast Baggage
There is a service via SBB, They deliver your luggage for you!! For example you are traveling from ZRH to Arosa, you don't want to be busy Shlepping around your luggage, You can check in your luggage in the airport and they (SBB) will deliver it to the train station in Arosa. This service is available "from and to" most train stations in Switzerland. You can ask about the Fast Baggage by any train station or read here or here

You can even buy a tag that you put on the luggage before checking in your luggage in any airport (i.e. JFK) and Rail Europe will take your luggage from the airplane in Switzerland and deliver it either to your hotel or to the train station in the city you're going to.  Read about Flight Luggage Here




PS. When doing research and getting to a website in German, just add /en (after .ch) to translate to English.
And Hey, Don't forget to write a TR ;)

Sample Itinerary for 9 hour stopover on Swiss flight from TLV to U.S. that lands at 810 and takes off around 5
Copied from @cholent:
Here it is: landed in zrh, crazy line for entering country but moved pretty quickly, about half an hour. Picked up sim in the airport. Rented car through Priceline from europecar. Drove to Titlis, stunning scenery along drive. Missed a turnoff because I couldn't get Waze to talk and I was trying to do some stuff online while we were driving, added half an hour to get there, but the stunning scenery made it worthwhile. Got there, parked, you pay at the entrance if you're going to park for more than an hour. Paid, took the cable car. Got off at there halfway station by mistake, gorgeous lake. Went back on and back up to the top. It was somewhat cloudy which was a pity. Suspension bridge was fun but no view because of the clouds. Took the ice flyer to the other peak, then went sledding down the hill, lots of fun. No tubing because there wasn't enough snow. We didn't have enough time for the ice cave because of the extra time driving there and we weren't sure where it was anyway. Made some new Israeli friends and took the cable car down with them. Got back to the airport, returning the car took less than five minutes, getting through the airport took a little longer so we didn't have time for showers at the lounge. It was amazing all around, I would definitely recommend

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2940 on: July 24, 2024, 03:37:13 PM »
"I believe this is when you're flying out of Switzerland. What I was referring to is that on the inbound flight, you don't need to pick it up from the carousel; it ships directly to your final train stop. However, SBB has stopped offering that service. As far as I know, they only provide it outbound from the train to the airport, and you need to collect your luggage and check it in.

How much did you pay for the service?  Was it delivered to your hotel or you had to pick it up at the train station?  Was it delivered the same day as you arrived or the following day?

I'm trying to figure out the difference between swisspasses service which is 26 CHF per suitcase and airportr which is a lot more and even more if you want the suitcases delivered to you same day vs waiting until the next day after you.  I don't really want to be without my stuff until the next day.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2941 on: July 24, 2024, 03:45:19 PM »
How much did you pay for the service?  26 chf per and a one time 20$ for express
Was it delivered to your hotel or you had to pick it up at the train station? Train station Was it delivered the same day as you arrived or the following day? same day 6 pm

I'm trying to figure out the difference between swisspasses service which is 26 CHF per suitcase and airportr which is a lot more and even more if you want the suitcases delivered to you same day vs waiting until the next day after you.  I don't really want to be without my stuff until the next day.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2942 on: July 24, 2024, 04:19:32 PM »
You can do by train/bus but it will require you to switch at least 3 times and will take you almost 5 hours vs under 3 hrs by car.

I used this company and was extremely happy with them, would highly recommend:  www.daytrip.com
Around How much is the car service?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2943 on: July 24, 2024, 08:34:43 PM »
Around How much is the car service?

It's very easy to check on their website. Put in pickup at MXP, destination St Moritz. Select the number of people you are. For 2 or 3 passengers with 1 luggage each it's 474 EUR. Once you have 4 or more people the price goes up because you need a bigger car. It's not cheap but the convenience makes it 10000% worth it.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2944 on: July 24, 2024, 08:40:04 PM »
Uber should be cheaper
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2945 on: July 24, 2024, 09:05:28 PM »
Uber should be cheaper

Not available but I doubt it would be cheaper even if it were.  ZRH to St Moritz is ~400 CHF cheapest option, so yes, this is more but since uber isn't an option this isn't that crazy.

One way car rental would be cheaper though if one wants to do that.

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« Reply #2946 on: July 24, 2024, 09:08:03 PM »
26 chf per and a one time 20$ for express
Train station
same day 6 pm

Thanks.  Very helpful to know that you can get your luggage same day with them for that price.  What time did you land?

Did you also use the service for the way home?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2947 on: July 25, 2024, 06:37:04 AM »
Not available but I doubt it would be cheaper even if it were.  ZRH to St Moritz is ~400 CHF cheapest option, so yes, this is more but since uber isn't an option this isn't that crazy.

One way car rental would be cheaper though if one wants to do that.
Uber (and everything else) is a lot cheaper in MXP than ZRH.

You can call an Uber and negotiate cash with the driver. I think I paid 300 last time for a nice Tesla.
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2948 on: July 25, 2024, 10:12:03 AM »
Uber (and everything else) is a lot cheaper in MXP than ZRH.

You can call an Uber and negotiate cash with the driver. I think I paid 300 last time fo :)r a nice Tesla.

This is great to know. Unfortunately I don't personally know any Uber drivers that I can call to do this but the next time I need this I'll reach out for recommendations :).

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2949 on: July 25, 2024, 11:25:20 AM »
Can you rent in a car in mxp go to Switzerland and return in mxp?
How do you negotiate with Uber?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2950 on: July 25, 2024, 11:49:33 AM »
Can you rent in a car in mxp go to Switzerland and return in mxp?

Yes

How do you negotiate with Uber?

Wondering the same

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2951 on: July 25, 2024, 01:15:24 PM »
Can you rent in a car in mxp go to Switzerland and return in mxp?
I did that in 2019 with no issue. Drove up from Milan to Davos, then up to Zurich, down to Matterhorn, and back down to Milan. Spent a few days in each.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2952 on: July 25, 2024, 01:30:31 PM »
Hi,

Which kosher hotels are open at the alps through the winter besides Levine in Arosa? (looking for the end of January 2025)

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2953 on: July 25, 2024, 03:07:59 PM »
Can you rent in a car in mxp go to Switzerland and return in mxp?
How do you negotiate with Uber?
You speak to the driver and then cancel the ride in app...
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« Reply #2954 on: July 25, 2024, 03:57:21 PM »
You speak to the driver and then cancel the ride in app...

The app doesn't allow to book a cross border trip, so just to clarify, where would you book the trip to in order to be able to communicate with the driver?

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« Reply #2955 on: July 26, 2024, 06:14:46 AM »
The app doesn't allow to book a cross border trip, so just to clarify, where would you book the trip to in order to be able to communicate with the driver?
Anywhere? And then text them
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2956 on: July 26, 2024, 06:39:07 AM »
Anywhere? And then text them

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2957 on: August 05, 2024, 11:04:02 AM »
is there a place to buy shabbos food in arosa?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2958 on: August 05, 2024, 03:36:13 PM »
is there a place to buy shabbos food in arosa?

Have it sent from Zürich

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2959 on: August 05, 2024, 03:40:48 PM »
is there a place to buy shabbos food in arosa?
levine hotel?