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Zurich
HOTELS
-The Park Hyatt is fantastic and a 10 minute walk to shul.
Tram stop: Stockerstrasse

RESTAURANTS

Meat:

Florentin - Located inside he JCC https://florentin.rest/
Tram stop: Bahnhof Enge

Grill Cave

Food truck. Check website for opening hours. Burgers, sandwiches, hot dogs etc.
https://www.thegrillcave.co/


Milk/Parve:

Babi's Bagels (Bederstrasse corner Klopstockstrasse 8002 Zürich) Tram Stop "Waffenplatzstrasse"

Bakery:
Ma'Adan Bakery
Manessestrasse/Schimmelstrasse
Has delicious pastries and also sells sandwiches, salads, and some sushi.

Butcher:
Metzgerei Kol Tuv

Can preorder for pickup.
Can also deliver throughout Switzerland by post.
See website for details.

https://www.koltuv.ch/en

Shabbos Takeout:
Oneg Shabbos.

Can usually ship throughout Switzerland (through the post, obviously packaging may be difficult and items can leak).

They come up every Friday in season to Davos and can purchase in the shul. Usually at Schiaweg.

Email is Oinegshabbes@gmail.com.

ATTRACTIONS
-Walk around the lake area
-Bahnhofstrasse window shopping
-Take a train to Lucerne and buy the golden ticket, included a boat ride on Lake Lucerne, cogwheel train and tram. Then take bus back to Lucerne
-When you arrive in Lucerne you can go to the tourist office to see a live view from Mount Pilatus (Or you can check online). If it's cloudy skip the cogwheel train and just take a nice boatride and explore the town, ancient bridges, and walk on top of the old city fortress walls.




Options in the Alps

Arosa: Metropol Hotel - quaint little old hotel. Not very fancy - it's like honeymooning in your grandmother's house (HT: Mrs. Moishebatchy). The food is very basic, but delicious. Mikva on premises. If skiing is your thing, the have an agreement with one of the ski places (Härtner) not to charge Metropol customers for ski rentals over Shabbos.


Need a meal on shabbes, please PM me (Chuchem). I live 15 minute walk from the hyatt, close to chabad. Zürich has no eiruv!

Major Attractions
“Please edit the wiki to add more attractions”

Central Switzerland
-Lucerne, Pilatus Offers: Cogwheel, Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mini Zip-line and fun area
-Titlis Offers: Gondolas, Snow Tubing, Trutti Bikes, Ice Museum, Row Boating
-Brunni Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Stroll in Lake(!)

Jungfrau Region
-Jungfrau/jungfraujoch Click here for the Kosher hotel in Wengen / 360-degree panorama of Jungfraujoch-Top of Europe
-Grindelwald Offers: Gondolas, mega Zip-line, Trutti Bikes

Eastern Switzerland
-St. Moritz
Davos / Klosters
Arosa Click here for the Kosher Levins hotel

Southern Switzerland
-Zermatt - "Matterhorn"
-Saas-Fee Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mega Zip-line, Trotti Bikes, (Saas-Grund has Monster Trotteres) and on top of "Allalin" you can go Snow Tubing and Skiing even in the summer!
-Crans Montana You can email the Kosher hotel in Crans Montana Hotelmk@gmail.com  or call them at 0032485640498 or 003233011600


HalbTax Pass

A HalbTax pass (or Half Fare card) is a card designated for tourists and not for Swiss residents (officially...). The card gives you half price on all public transportation like buses, trains, trams, boats and also on "most" cable cars (attractions). There are basically 4 kinds.

1) An annual pass, the price is currently 175 francs. If i remember correctly it has a photo ID of the recipient, so double check before sharing it.
Click here for the annual pass

2) A 30 day pass, the price is currently 120 francs, it does not have a photo ID on it.
Click here or here for the 30 day pass

3) - Recommended for frequent traveling Swiss Travel Pass - you prepay a set amount per day and get unlimited for that day (plus "optional" for a fee, for 1 month including the days you chose, it is a HalbTax, even on the prepaid free days, it's only free for all transportation, on cable cars you only get half off). The price per day depends on how many days you prepay, for example if you prepay 8 days, the price per day will be about 53 francs, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 73 francs. If you are 25 y/o or younger, you can get the Youth Pass which is cheaper - If you prepay 8 days  the price per day will be about 40 francs a day, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 62 francs.
Click here (or here) for the prepaid pass

The card comes with a few days “you could chose your dates later”, officially when you want to use a certain day for the free day you should fill in on the pass that date, and when the first conductor comes he punches that day, but technically you can leave the date blank until the conductor comes, that way you have a chance if no conductor asks you for your card (happens quite often) you can save it for the next day :)

4) Swiss Transfer Ticket" This card costs 141 francs and is valid for 2 trips from and to the boarder or airport, for example you are traveling from the airport to Arosa and are not planning to go anywhere else or take any other transportation, with this card you will effectively pay 71 francs per way. This card is only valid for trips to and from the airport or boarder and no (long) stops allowed. Technically if you will travel one more day, the Swiss travel pass mentioned above will probably be cheaper.

Make sure to order your pass a few weeks before leaving, it takes about 1-3 weeks for the pass to arrive. But you can always buy it in the Airport, though you might have to wait in line and also if you want to buy the Youth pass (for 25 y/o or younger) they might ask you for proof...

There is also a family pass if you travel with a large family, I am not familiar with that.


Fast Baggage
There is a service via SBB, They deliver your luggage for you!! For example you are traveling from ZRH to Arosa, you don't want to be busy Shlepping around your luggage, You can check in your luggage in the airport and they (SBB) will deliver it to the train station in Arosa. This service is available "from and to" most train stations in Switzerland. You can ask about the Fast Baggage by any train station or read here or here

You can even buy a tag that you put on the luggage before checking in your luggage in any airport (i.e. JFK) and Rail Europe will take your luggage from the airplane in Switzerland and deliver it either to your hotel or to the train station in the city you're going to.  Read about Flight Luggage Here




PS. When doing research and getting to a website in German, just add /en (after .ch) to translate to English.
And Hey, Don't forget to write a TR ;)

Sample Itinerary for 9 hour stopover on Swiss flight from TLV to U.S. that lands at 810 and takes off around 5
Copied from @cholent:
Here it is: landed in zrh, crazy line for entering country but moved pretty quickly, about half an hour. Picked up sim in the airport. Rented car through Priceline from europecar. Drove to Titlis, stunning scenery along drive. Missed a turnoff because I couldn't get Waze to talk and I was trying to do some stuff online while we were driving, added half an hour to get there, but the stunning scenery made it worthwhile. Got there, parked, you pay at the entrance if you're going to park for more than an hour. Paid, took the cable car. Got off at there halfway station by mistake, gorgeous lake. Went back on and back up to the top. It was somewhat cloudy which was a pity. Suspension bridge was fun but no view because of the clouds. Took the ice flyer to the other peak, then went sledding down the hill, lots of fun. No tubing because there wasn't enough snow. We didn't have enough time for the ice cave because of the extra time driving there and we weren't sure where it was anyway. Made some new Israeli friends and took the cable car down with them. Got back to the airport, returning the car took less than five minutes, getting through the airport took a little longer so we didn't have time for showers at the lounge. It was amazing all around, I would definitely recommend

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2960 on: August 05, 2024, 10:42:27 PM »
levine hotel?

They charge 145 sfr per meal per person. So 580 just for the day and night meal for 2 ppl. No shalosh seudos or melava malka, etc.

Just to put it in perspective, booking a room with them is about 400 sfr per night for 2 adults so if you'd book just for Friday night and motzei Shabbos it's 800 sfr and you get food from check in early afternoon on Friday until after breakfast Sunday.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2961 on: August 06, 2024, 02:15:10 PM »
Hi can anyone please oploead the list of minyanim in swiss/ austrian alps this summer after tisha baav
thanks and tizke lmitzvois

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2962 on: August 06, 2024, 04:32:09 PM »
Hi can anyone please oploead the list of minyanim in swiss/ austrian alps this summer after tisha baav
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St Moritz. Beis Medrash in Via Ludains till 1 September
Serfaus Fiss Ladis Austria
19.08. - 29.08. Info 079 935 56 90
Laax Murschetg from 18.08. for 2 weeks
079 536 19 50
Nendaz 8 men 18.08. - 25.08. 00 44 757 012 3565
Engelberg 9.08. - 1.09. Info minjanengelberg@gmail.com
Grächen 6 men 18.08. - 25.08. 061 301 29 49
Grindelwald-Grund 19.08. -29.08. 8 men 00972 52 719 8330
Scuol-Ftan 19.08. - 28.08. 6 men 078 77 24 145

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2963 on: August 07, 2024, 11:38:32 AM »
St Moritz. Beis Medrash in Via Ludains till 1 September
Serfaus Fiss Ladis Austria
19.08. - 29.08. Info 079 935 56 90
Laax Murschetg from 18.08. for 2 weeks
079 536 19 50
Nendaz 8 men 18.08. - 25.08. 00 44 757 012 3565
Engelberg 9.08. - 1.09. Info minjanengelberg@gmail.com
Grächen 6 men 18.08. - 25.08. 061 301 29 49
Grindelwald-Grund 19.08. -29.08. 8 men 00972 52 719 8330
Scuol-Ftan 19.08. - 28.08. 6 men 078 77 24 145

thanks so much is this all do you know about wengen in switzerland
and galtur iscgl kapple area in austria?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2964 on: August 07, 2024, 12:00:20 PM »
thanks so much is this all do you know about wengen in switzerland
and galtur iscgl kapple area in austria?
Wengen does not have AFAIK.
The other 3 do have.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2965 on: August 07, 2024, 05:25:09 PM »
is there kosher supermarket in arosa?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2966 on: August 07, 2024, 05:58:35 PM »
is there kosher supermarket in arosa?

No

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« Reply #2967 on: August 08, 2024, 02:35:28 AM »
Hi can anyone please oploead the list of minyanim in swiss/ austrian alps this summer after tisha baav
thanks and tizke lmitzvois

תשפ״ד
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המלצת הרבנים הגאונים שליט״א signed by

 ר׳
צבי אלימלך פדווא 
חיים משה הלוי לוי
יוסף מרדכי ווייס
and Chayim Yosef Bloi
Shamai Grosz
Moishe Shoul Klein
Yaakov Meir Stern
Aaron Shiff
Chayim Schmerler

In this letter the Rabbonim warn against Chilul Hashem when
going for holidays in Switzerland, and not to cause any damage.

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« Reply #2968 on: August 08, 2024, 08:53:54 AM »
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צבי אלימלך פדווא 
חיים משה הלוי לוי
יוסף מרדכי ווייס
and Chayim Yosef Bloi
Shamai Grosz
Moishe Shoul Klein
Yaakov Meir Stern
Aaron Shiff
Chayim Schmerler

In this letter the Rabbonim warn against Chilul Hashem when
going for holidays in Switzerland, and not to cause any damage.

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« Reply #2969 on: August 08, 2024, 01:43:38 PM »
Attach a screenshot?

I tried a screenshot, not working, must be doing something wrong

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2970 on: August 11, 2024, 08:38:12 AM »
Hi can anyone please oploead the list of minyanim in swiss/ austrian alps this summer after tisha baav
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Just heard the latest: The major of Saas Fee prohibits Minjanim in Saas Fee !

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2971 on: August 11, 2024, 11:01:09 AM »
Just heard the latest: The major of Saas Fee prohibits Minjanim in Saas Fee !

I'm guessing you meant mayor. That's really horrible, how can they prohibit you from getting 10+ men in your apartment to daven?

Not going there this year but was in Saas fee last year and it's a beautiful town.

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« Reply #2972 on: August 11, 2024, 11:54:54 AM »
I'm guessing you meant mayor. That's really horrible, how can they prohibit you from getting 10+ men in your apartment to daven?

Not going there this year but was in Saas fee last year and it's a beautiful town.

May be beautiful, but 'they' are showing their true colours.
Just this שבת in the evening in  Zürich in front of Erika Schul אגודת אחים a swiss ghoi was caught pouring gasoline in front of the שול
I hope and pray that all Jews go home safely after these holidays
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« Reply #2973 on: August 12, 2024, 12:37:52 AM »
May be beautiful, but 'they' are showing their true colours.
Just this שבת in the evening in  Zürich in front of Erika Schul אגודת אחים a swiss ghoi was caught pouring gasoline in front of the שול
I hope and pray that all Jews go home safely after these holidays

Amen. Regardless of wherever in the world they go, may all Jews be safe and guarded by Hashem.

But its really scary to see what the world as a whole has gotten to with antisemitism...

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2974 on: August 14, 2024, 07:35:18 AM »
In the past, the supermarket in Davos (either Coop or Spar) had a kosher section with meat. Is this still the case?
Is there such an option in other cities such as St Moritz?

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« Reply #2975 on: August 14, 2024, 09:39:37 AM »
In the past, the supermarket in Davos (either Coop or Spar) had a kosher section with meat. Is this still the case?
Is there such an option in other cities such as St Moritz?
Davos should have more than ever. St. Moritz has a small kosher section in the bakery the last couple of years, but no meat or anything like that. No idea if anything changed this year.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2976 on: August 14, 2024, 11:53:17 AM »
In the past, the supermarket in Davos (either Coop or Spar) had a kosher section with meat. Is this still the case?
Is there such an option in other cities such as St Moritz?

https://www.interdiscount.ch/de/product/carte-journaliere-speciale-0001609198   

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2977 on: August 14, 2024, 02:38:30 PM »
Davos should have more than ever. St. Moritz has a small kosher section in the bakery the last couple of years, but no meat or anything like that. No idea if anything changed this year.
Do you remember which market it was in? Coop? Spar? Migros?

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« Reply #2978 on: August 14, 2024, 03:48:42 PM »
https://www.interdiscount.ch/de/product/carte-journaliere-speciale-0001609198
This is good, but not related to that post. :)
Do you remember which market it was in? Coop? Spar? Migros?
Spar and Coop should both have, iirc.

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« Reply #2979 on: August 14, 2024, 04:18:42 PM »
https://www.interdiscount.ch/de/product/carte-journaliere-speciale-0001609198

Just to make sure I understand this correctly, would this replace any point to point ticket I would purchase on SBB? For example, zurich airport to st Moritz is 84 chf, so can I go to the Interdiscount store at the airport on arrival and buy this for 49 chf and I can use this instead of buying a ticket from sbb?

Also, it says it's available online only but then when you do a location search for stores it tells you how many pieces each store has available so I'm not sure if I need to order in advance for pick up in store or if it says that the store has more than 20 I can just buy when I get there?