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Zurich
HOTELS
-The Park Hyatt is fantastic and a 10 minute walk to shul.
Tram stop: Stockerstrasse

RESTAURANTS

Meat:

Florentin - Located inside he JCC https://florentin.rest/
Tram stop: Bahnhof Enge

Grill Cave

Food truck. Check website for opening hours. Burgers, sandwiches, hot dogs etc.
https://www.thegrillcave.co/


Milk/Parve:

Babi's Bagels (Bederstrasse corner Klopstockstrasse 8002 Zürich) Tram Stop "Waffenplatzstrasse"

Bakery:
Ma'Adan Bakery
Manessestrasse/Schimmelstrasse
Has delicious pastries and also sells sandwiches, salads, and some sushi.

Butcher:
Metzgerei Kol Tuv

Can preorder for pickup.
Can also deliver throughout Switzerland by post.
See website for details.

https://www.koltuv.ch/en

Shabbos Takeout:
Oneg Shabbos.

Can usually ship throughout Switzerland (through the post, obviously packaging may be difficult and items can leak).

They come up every Friday in season to Davos and can purchase in the shul. Usually at Schiaweg.

Email is Oinegshabbes@gmail.com.

ATTRACTIONS
-Walk around the lake area
-Bahnhofstrasse window shopping
-Take a train to Lucerne and buy the golden ticket, included a boat ride on Lake Lucerne, cogwheel train and tram. Then take bus back to Lucerne
-When you arrive in Lucerne you can go to the tourist office to see a live view from Mount Pilatus (Or you can check online). If it's cloudy skip the cogwheel train and just take a nice boatride and explore the town, ancient bridges, and walk on top of the old city fortress walls.




Options in the Alps

Arosa: Metropol Hotel - quaint little old hotel. Not very fancy - it's like honeymooning in your grandmother's house (HT: Mrs. Moishebatchy). The food is very basic, but delicious. Mikva on premises. If skiing is your thing, the have an agreement with one of the ski places (Härtner) not to charge Metropol customers for ski rentals over Shabbos.


Need a meal on shabbes, please PM me (Chuchem). I live 15 minute walk from the hyatt, close to chabad. Zürich has no eiruv!

Major Attractions
“Please edit the wiki to add more attractions”

Central Switzerland
-Lucerne, Pilatus Offers: Cogwheel, Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mini Zip-line and fun area
-Titlis Offers: Gondolas, Snow Tubing, Trutti Bikes, Ice Museum, Row Boating
-Brunni Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Stroll in Lake(!)

Jungfrau Region
-Jungfrau/jungfraujoch Click here for the Kosher hotel in Wengen / 360-degree panorama of Jungfraujoch-Top of Europe
-Grindelwald Offers: Gondolas, mega Zip-line, Trutti Bikes

Eastern Switzerland
-St. Moritz
Davos / Klosters
Arosa Click here for the Kosher Levins hotel

Southern Switzerland
-Zermatt - "Matterhorn"
-Saas-Fee Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mega Zip-line, Trotti Bikes, (Saas-Grund has Monster Trotteres) and on top of "Allalin" you can go Snow Tubing and Skiing even in the summer!
-Crans Montana You can email the Kosher hotel in Crans Montana Hotelmk@gmail.com  or call them at 0032485640498 or 003233011600


HalbTax Pass

A HalbTax pass (or Half Fare card) is a card designated for tourists and not for Swiss residents (officially...). The card gives you half price on all public transportation like buses, trains, trams, boats and also on "most" cable cars (attractions). There are basically 4 kinds.

1) An annual pass, the price is currently 175 francs. If i remember correctly it has a photo ID of the recipient, so double check before sharing it.
Click here for the annual pass

2) A 30 day pass, the price is currently 120 francs, it does not have a photo ID on it.
Click here or here for the 30 day pass

3) - Recommended for frequent traveling Swiss Travel Pass - you prepay a set amount per day and get unlimited for that day (plus "optional" for a fee, for 1 month including the days you chose, it is a HalbTax, even on the prepaid free days, it's only free for all transportation, on cable cars you only get half off). The price per day depends on how many days you prepay, for example if you prepay 8 days, the price per day will be about 53 francs, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 73 francs. If you are 25 y/o or younger, you can get the Youth Pass which is cheaper - If you prepay 8 days  the price per day will be about 40 francs a day, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 62 francs.
Click here (or here) for the prepaid pass

The card comes with a few days “you could chose your dates later”, officially when you want to use a certain day for the free day you should fill in on the pass that date, and when the first conductor comes he punches that day, but technically you can leave the date blank until the conductor comes, that way you have a chance if no conductor asks you for your card (happens quite often) you can save it for the next day :)

4) Swiss Transfer Ticket" This card costs 141 francs and is valid for 2 trips from and to the boarder or airport, for example you are traveling from the airport to Arosa and are not planning to go anywhere else or take any other transportation, with this card you will effectively pay 71 francs per way. This card is only valid for trips to and from the airport or boarder and no (long) stops allowed. Technically if you will travel one more day, the Swiss travel pass mentioned above will probably be cheaper.

Make sure to order your pass a few weeks before leaving, it takes about 1-3 weeks for the pass to arrive. But you can always buy it in the Airport, though you might have to wait in line and also if you want to buy the Youth pass (for 25 y/o or younger) they might ask you for proof...

There is also a family pass if you travel with a large family, I am not familiar with that.


Fast Baggage
There is a service via SBB, They deliver your luggage for you!! For example you are traveling from ZRH to Arosa, you don't want to be busy Shlepping around your luggage, You can check in your luggage in the airport and they (SBB) will deliver it to the train station in Arosa. This service is available "from and to" most train stations in Switzerland. You can ask about the Fast Baggage by any train station or read here or here

You can even buy a tag that you put on the luggage before checking in your luggage in any airport (i.e. JFK) and Rail Europe will take your luggage from the airplane in Switzerland and deliver it either to your hotel or to the train station in the city you're going to.  Read about Flight Luggage Here




PS. When doing research and getting to a website in German, just add /en (after .ch) to translate to English.
And Hey, Don't forget to write a TR ;)

Sample Itinerary for 9 hour stopover on Swiss flight from TLV to U.S. that lands at 810 and takes off around 5
Copied from @cholent:
Here it is: landed in zrh, crazy line for entering country but moved pretty quickly, about half an hour. Picked up sim in the airport. Rented car through Priceline from europecar. Drove to Titlis, stunning scenery along drive. Missed a turnoff because I couldn't get Waze to talk and I was trying to do some stuff online while we were driving, added half an hour to get there, but the stunning scenery made it worthwhile. Got there, parked, you pay at the entrance if you're going to park for more than an hour. Paid, took the cable car. Got off at there halfway station by mistake, gorgeous lake. Went back on and back up to the top. It was somewhat cloudy which was a pity. Suspension bridge was fun but no view because of the clouds. Took the ice flyer to the other peak, then went sledding down the hill, lots of fun. No tubing because there wasn't enough snow. We didn't have enough time for the ice cave because of the extra time driving there and we weren't sure where it was anyway. Made some new Israeli friends and took the cable car down with them. Got back to the airport, returning the car took less than five minutes, getting through the airport took a little longer so we didn't have time for showers at the lounge. It was amazing all around, I would definitely recommend

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2980 on: August 14, 2024, 04:30:00 PM »
Just to make sure I understand this correctly, would this replace any point to point ticket I would purchase on SBB? For example, zurich airport to st Moritz is 84 chf, so can I go to the Interdiscount store at the airport on arrival and buy this for 49 chf and I can use this instead of buying a ticket from sbb?

Also, it says it's available online only but then when you do a location search for stores it tells you how many pieces each store has available so I'm not sure if I need to order in advance for pick up in store or if it says that the store has more than 20 I can just buy when I get there?
Why don't you just order it online?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2981 on: August 14, 2024, 04:35:12 PM »
Just to make sure I understand this correctly, would this replace any point to point ticket I would purchase on SBB? For example, zurich airport to st Moritz is 84 chf, so can I go to the Interdiscount store at the airport on arrival and buy this for 49 chf and I can use this instead of buying a ticket from sbb?

Also, it says it's available online only but then when you do a location search for stores it tells you how many pieces each store has available so I'm not sure if I need to order in advance for pick up in store or if it says that the store has more than 20 I can just buy when I get there?

You can't reserve online.
041 43 819 450 Interdiscount Airport
I would phone them and ask.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2982 on: August 14, 2024, 05:22:00 PM »
You can't reserve online.
041 43 819 450 Interdiscount Airport
I would phone them and ask.

According to the website you can buy online for free pick up in store. I haven't tried but why shouldn't it work?

Why don't you just order it online?

I will once it's confirmed that #1. this can replace any point to point tickets that I would have purchased directly with sbb to get to my destination. And #2. I can pick up at the airport store because shipping is only available within Switzerland or Lichtenstein.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2983 on: August 15, 2024, 02:41:07 AM »
According to the website you can buy online for free pick up in store. I haven't tried but why shouldn't it work?

I will once it's confirmed that #1. this can replace any point to point tickets that I would have purchased directly with sbb to get to my destination. And #2. I can pick up at the airport store because shipping is only available within Switzerland or Lichtenstein.

Checked it out. You can buy it at the airport. Have a safe journey

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2984 on: August 15, 2024, 10:43:47 AM »
Checked it out. You can buy it at the airport. Have a safe journey

Thank you

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2985 on: August 17, 2024, 10:54:30 PM »
Hi everyone,
Where can I get the Swiss kosher list? There are a few lists which one is best for saas fee?
Thank you.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2986 on: August 18, 2024, 11:49:06 AM »
This is a great app that’ll be very helpful for you

https://apps.apple.com/cz/app/swiss-kosher/id1505734047

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2987 on: August 18, 2024, 02:07:52 PM »
This is a great app that’ll be very helpful for you

https://apps.apple.com/cz/app/swiss-kosher/id1505734047

www.irgz.ch.    what's the difference to this kosher list in Switzerland ?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2988 on: August 19, 2024, 01:37:58 PM »
Has anyone been to the kosher program in ST Anton Austria? if yes how was it ?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2989 on: August 19, 2024, 05:46:19 PM »
Has anyone been to the kosher program in ST Anton Austria? if yes how was it ?
Weber Tours. I heard great feedback, I have family members there and they are very happy. (Besides the
weather isn't great the last few days...)

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2990 on: August 20, 2024, 07:32:58 AM »
i was there had a great experience
the weather wasn't great in the whole area including st moritz area

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2991 on: August 20, 2024, 11:02:48 AM »
i was there had a great experience
the weather wasn't great in the whole area including st moritz area

When was that?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2992 on: August 20, 2024, 12:44:43 PM »
ן was there a few weeks ago

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2993 on: August 20, 2024, 12:55:13 PM »
ן was there a few weeks ago

Just checked the weather app for this week and next week and if it's accurate doesn't look too much better for most towns that have programs.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2994 on: August 20, 2024, 02:23:05 PM »
Just checked the weather app for this week and next week and if it's accurate doesn't look too much better for most towns that have programs.

In Switzerland use https://www.meteoswiss.admin.ch/

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2995 on: August 20, 2024, 03:23:50 PM »
Just checked the weather app for this week and next week and if it's accurate doesn't look too much better for most towns that have programs.
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2996 on: August 20, 2024, 03:25:15 PM »
In Switzerland use https://www.meteoswiss.admin.ch/
i find the local tourist info's website usually to be very accurate
I found that with St Moritz davos arosa etc

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2997 on: August 20, 2024, 03:30:20 PM »
The Italian IlMateo is the best for St Moritz.

The key is that in the summer a rain forecast is usually just a minimal drizzle for a few minutes.
״וזה כלל גדול: שישנא אדם כל דבר שקר. וכל מה שיוסיף שנאה לדרכי השקר – יוסיף אהבה לתורה.״ - אורחות צדיקים

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2998 on: August 20, 2024, 04:06:24 PM »

https://www.minjan-brunau.com/new-website-for-minyan-st-moritz/#:~:text=Whatsapp%2DGroup%3A%20All%20future%20updates,you%20will%20be%20added%20there.

Just noticed this:

Immediately after Tisha beAv – and this is an absolute first in St. Moritz – we will be opening a kosher restaurant on the ice rink, where we will be serving meals – a la carte – every day until  September 1st. These can be eaten in the restaurant or taken away. The restaurant will be run by  Moische Fein  of “Fein & Schein Catering” under strict Hashgacha and we hope that you will all make ample use of it. Also, you will no longer have to order your Shabbat meals in Zurich. It can all be picked up in the Restaurant.
״וזה כלל גדול: שישנא אדם כל דבר שקר. וכל מה שיוסיף שנאה לדרכי השקר – יוסיף אהבה לתורה.״ - אורחות צדיקים

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2999 on: August 21, 2024, 04:54:05 PM »
Just noticed this:

Immediately after Tisha beAv – and this is an absolute first in St. Moritz – we will be opening a kosher restaurant on the ice rink, where we will be serving meals – a la carte – every day until  September 1st. These can be eaten in the restaurant or taken away. The restaurant will be run by  Moische Fein  of “Fein & Schein Catering” under strict Hashgacha and we hope that you will all make ample use of it. Also, you will no longer have to order your Shabbat meals in Zurich. It can all be picked up in the Restaurant.
Does anyone have more info about the food and a # i can call to check what kind of food they have ?