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Zurich
HOTELS
-The Park Hyatt is fantastic and a 10 minute walk to shul.
Tram stop: Stockerstrasse

RESTAURANTS

Meat:

Florentin - Located inside he JCC https://florentin.rest/
Tram stop: Bahnhof Enge

Grill Cave

Food truck. Check website for opening hours. Burgers, sandwiches, hot dogs etc.
https://www.thegrillcave.co/


Milk/Parve:

Babi's Bagels (Bederstrasse corner Klopstockstrasse 8002 Zürich) Tram Stop "Waffenplatzstrasse"

Bakery:
Ma'Adan Bakery
Manessestrasse/Schimmelstrasse
Has delicious pastries and also sells sandwiches, salads, and some sushi.

Butcher:
Metzgerei Kol Tuv

Can preorder for pickup.
Can also deliver throughout Switzerland by post.
See website for details.

https://www.koltuv.ch/en

ATTRACTIONS
-Walk around the lake area
-Bahnhofstrasse window shopping
-Take a train to Lucerne and buy the golden ticket, included a boat ride on Lake Lucerne, cogwheel train and tram. Then take bus back to Lucerne
-When you arrive in Lucerne you can go to the tourist office to see a live view from Mount Pilatus (Or you can check online). If it's cloudy skip the cogwheel train and just take a nice boatride and explore the town, ancient bridges, and walk on top of the old city fortress walls.




Options in the Alps

Arosa: Metropol Hotel - quaint little old hotel. Not very fancy - it's like honeymooning in your grandmother's house (HT: Mrs. Moishebatchy). The food is very basic, but delicious. Mikva on premises. If skiing is your thing, the have an agreement with one of the ski places (Härtner) not to charge Metropol customers for ski rentals over Shabbos.


Need a meal on shabbes, please PM me (Chuchem). I live 15 minute walk from the hyatt, close to chabad. Zürich has no eiruv!

Major Attractions
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Central Switzerland
-Lucerne, Pilatus Offers: Cogwheel, Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mini Zip-line and fun area
-Titlis Offers: Gondolas, Snow Tubing, Trutti Bikes, Ice Museum, Row Boating
-Brunni Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Stroll in Lake(!)

Jungfrau Region
-Jungfrau/jungfraujoch Click here for the Kosher hotel in Wengen / 360-degree panorama of Jungfraujoch-Top of Europe
-Grindelwald Offers: Gondolas, mega Zip-line, Trutti Bikes

Eastern Switzerland
-St. Moritz
Davos / Klosters
Arosa Click here for the Kosher Levins hotel

Southern Switzerland
-Zermatt - "Matterhorn"
-Saas-Fee Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mega Zip-line, Trotti Bikes, (Saas-Grund has Monster Trotteres) and on top of "Allalin" you can go Snow Tubing and Skiing even in the summer!
-Crans Montana You can email the Kosher hotel in Crans Montana Hotelmk@gmail.com  or call them at 0032485640498 or 003233011600


HalbTax Pass

A HalbTax pass (or Half Fare card) is a card designated for tourists and not for Swiss residents (officially...). The card gives you half price on all public transportation like buses, trains, trams, boats and also on "most" cable cars (attractions). There are basically 4 kinds.

1) An annual pass, the price is currently 175 francs. If i remember correctly it has a photo ID of the recipient, so double check before sharing it.
Click here for the annual pass

2) A 30 day pass, the price is currently 120 francs, it does not have a photo ID on it.
Click here or here for the 30 day pass

3) - Recommended for frequent traveling Swiss Travel Pass - you prepay a set amount per day and get unlimited for that day (plus "optional" for a fee, for 1 month including the days you chose, it is a HalbTax, even on the prepaid free days, it's only free for all transportation, on cable cars you only get half off). The price per day depends on how many days you prepay, for example if you prepay 8 days, the price per day will be about 53 francs, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 73 francs. If you are 25 y/o or younger, you can get the Youth Pass which is cheaper - If you prepay 8 days  the price per day will be about 40 francs a day, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 62 francs.
Click here (or here) for the prepaid pass

The card comes with a few days “you could chose your dates later”, officially when you want to use a certain day for the free day you should fill in on the pass that date, and when the first conductor comes he punches that day, but technically you can leave the date blank until the conductor comes, that way you have a chance if no conductor asks you for your card (happens quite often) you can save it for the next day :)

4) Swiss Transfer Ticket" This card costs 141 francs and is valid for 2 trips from and to the boarder or airport, for example you are traveling from the airport to Arosa and are not planning to go anywhere else or take any other transportation, with this card you will effectively pay 71 francs per way. This card is only valid for trips to and from the airport or boarder and no (long) stops allowed. Technically if you will travel one more day, the Swiss travel pass mentioned above will probably be cheaper.

Make sure to order your pass a few weeks before leaving, it takes about 1-3 weeks for the pass to arrive. But you can always buy it in the Airport, though you might have to wait in line and also if you want to buy the Youth pass (for 25 y/o or younger) they might ask you for proof...

There is also a family pass if you travel with a large family, I am not familiar with that.


Fast Baggage
There is a service via SBB, They deliver your luggage for you!! For example you are traveling from ZRH to Arosa, you don't want to be busy Shlepping around your luggage, You can check in your luggage in the airport and they (SBB) will deliver it to the train station in Arosa. This service is available "from and to" most train stations in Switzerland. You can ask about the Fast Baggage by any train station or read here or here

You can even buy a tag that you put on the luggage before checking in your luggage in any airport (i.e. JFK) and Rail Europe will take your luggage from the airplane in Switzerland and deliver it either to your hotel or to the train station in the city you're going to.  Read about Flight Luggage Here




PS. When doing research and getting to a website in German, just add /en (after .ch) to translate to English.
And Hey, Don't forget to write a TR ;)

Sample Itinerary for 9 hour stopover on Swiss flight from TLV to U.S. that lands at 810 and takes off around 5
Copied from @cholent:
Here it is: landed in zrh, crazy line for entering country but moved pretty quickly, about half an hour. Picked up sim in the airport. Rented car through Priceline from europecar. Drove to Titlis, stunning scenery along drive. Missed a turnoff because I couldn't get Waze to talk and I was trying to do some stuff online while we were driving, added half an hour to get there, but the stunning scenery made it worthwhile. Got there, parked, you pay at the entrance if you're going to park for more than an hour. Paid, took the cable car. Got off at there halfway station by mistake, gorgeous lake. Went back on and back up to the top. It was somewhat cloudy which was a pity. Suspension bridge was fun but no view because of the clouds. Took the ice flyer to the other peak, then went sledding down the hill, lots of fun. No tubing because there wasn't enough snow. We didn't have enough time for the ice cave because of the extra time driving there and we weren't sure where it was anyway. Made some new Israeli friends and took the cable car down with them. Got back to the airport, returning the car took less than five minutes, getting through the airport took a little longer so we didn't have time for showers at the lounge. It was amazing all around, I would definitely recommend

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #420 on: October 29, 2012, 10:12:03 PM »
In Zurich the PH Zurich

Is it better to stay somewhere down south? It seems like many of the nicer scenery areas are in Southern Switzerland.
Anywhere to find minyanim down there?
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #421 on: October 30, 2012, 05:25:53 AM »
In Zurich the PH Zurich
at $900+ a day!
Or free with the hyatt card!
Great Hotel! stayed there on the hyatt cards tab- and got matched to diamond- they gave us kosher (airline) breakfast.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #422 on: October 30, 2012, 05:57:41 AM »
Hi
Looking for Ideas for Vacation in August. I am going to Switzerland this is my third time. What I am looking for this time is somewhere close to Davos (30 min Drive Radius) but not too close. So that can use all the amenities in Davos whilst still having some privacy. I have a group of about 10 families so ideally looking for a small village that we can go together for minyan etc. Any Ideas? 

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #423 on: October 30, 2012, 06:47:53 AM »
There are so many kosher hotels in Switzerland in the summer (and the whole year round).
Here are just a few that come to mind:
Tourplus (Israeli company, they have a few hotels) 
Villars
Arosa and Davos

If it doesn't necessarily have to be Switzerland, then I can recommend My One Hotel in Italy.
There are also lots of hotels in France and Austria.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #424 on: October 30, 2012, 06:49:18 AM »
Im not looking for hotels. Im looking for self catering apartments in that area.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #425 on: October 30, 2012, 04:35:05 PM »

The area called 'Klosters" is right near Davos, but much more quiet and beautiful, happends to be that the english Royal family
go there... Were are you planning on getting your food from ?

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« Reply #426 on: October 30, 2012, 05:13:46 PM »
Thanks for your reply I will  be going in the summer Hols Iy"h. Klosters also gets abit busy them I have been in Adelboden and Saas Almagel. They are little villages and am looking for somthing more like that but close enough to davos to be able to stock up on supplies e.g milk etc. but that our family group can have a bit of privacy.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #427 on: October 30, 2012, 06:15:40 PM »
There are so many kosher hotels in Switzerland in the summer (and the whole year round).
Here are just a few that come to mind:
Tourplus (Israeli company, they have a few hotels) 
Villars
Arosa and Davos

If it doesn't necessarily have to be Switzerland, then I can recommend My One Hotel in Italy.
There are also lots of hotels in France and Austria.

thanks so much! This is really helpful. Do you recommend one of these areas over the others?

Also on the Toursplus site they offer a few different places. Any better than the others from that site?

Thanks so much
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #428 on: October 30, 2012, 07:44:58 PM »
For those of you who read Swiss German there is a great site for Switzerland and EU information http://www.eyzes.com/.

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« Reply #429 on: October 30, 2012, 09:39:34 PM »
For those of you who read Swiss German there is a great site for Switzerland and EU information http://www.eyzes.com/.

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« Reply #430 on: October 31, 2012, 02:31:56 AM »
For those of you who read Swiss German there is a great site for Switzerland and EU information http://www.eyzes.com/.

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FTFY, AFAIK Swiss German uses regular German (hochdeutsch) to write.

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« Reply #431 on: October 31, 2012, 02:33:48 AM »
FTFY, AFAIK Swiss German uses regular German (hochdeutsch) to write.
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #432 on: October 31, 2012, 03:39:26 AM »
thanks so much! This is really helpful. Do you recommend one of these areas over the others?

Also on the Toursplus site they offer a few different places. Any better than the others from that site?

Thanks so much
One thing I can tell you is that with Israeli management you're (almost) guaranteed that there will be more than enough food.
A far as area's, there's plenty of activities wherever you go and the Alpes are beautiful everywhere.
I have personally stayed in a few places in the Alpes over the years and if you have questions about a place that you're considering I'll be happy to help.
Btw you could probably find a lot of hotel's advertising in Jewish newspapers, so keep an eye out (I think more around Pesach time).

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« Reply #433 on: October 31, 2012, 08:04:01 AM »
One thing I can tell you is that with Israeli management you're (almost) guaranteed that there will be more than enough food.
A far as area's, there's plenty of activities wherever you go and the Alpes are beautiful everywhere.
I have personally stayed in a few places in the Alpes over the years and if you have questions about a place that you're considering I'll be happy to help.
Btw you could probably find a lot of hotel's advertising in Jewish newspapers, so keep an eye out (I think more around Pesach time).

Thanks so much. Would you happen to know what the pricing is approx? How much is a room in one of these places going to cost me b'erech?
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #434 on: October 31, 2012, 04:54:06 PM »

Keep one thing in mind when traveling to Switzerland, Its the wrong place if your looking not to spend much !!

You might be able to go to a neighbor country with similar activities and views for easily 30% cheaper.

If you do travel with a whole 'large' group to Switzerland, contact the Jewish Grocery store on the border to Switzerland
and try and arrange with him delivery of food since youl be SHOCKED with the prices of meat and basic foods in Switzerland
and this grocer offers about 50% cheaper goods

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« Reply #435 on: October 31, 2012, 05:41:50 PM »
Keep one thing in mind when traveling to Switzerland, Its the wrong place if your looking not to spend much !!

You might be able to go to a neighbor country with similar activities and views for easily 30% cheaper.

If you do travel with a whole 'large' group to Switzerland, contact the Jewish Grocery store on the border to Switzerland
and try and arrange with him delivery of food since youl be SHOCKED with the prices of meat and basic foods in Switzerland
and this grocer offers about 50% cheaper goods
Italy, France, Germany, or Lichtenstein ?
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« Reply #436 on: October 31, 2012, 05:52:05 PM »

more like austria and france, depends if you are planning to come in the summer or winter !

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #437 on: October 31, 2012, 05:56:37 PM »
more like austria and france, depends if you are planning to come in the summer or winter !
re-read his question and bolding.
Looks like you know the Schreibers too well...

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #438 on: November 01, 2012, 08:55:38 AM »
Thanks Mena for your advice but as someone who has been going to switzerland for the past six years I know my budget and I usually stock up french side of Basel but it is always good to have spar to buy milk and yogurts for the kids. So what I am looking for is some place close to Davos/Klosters but not in the kugel

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« Reply #439 on: November 01, 2012, 12:23:53 PM »
Ill ask around about a place near Klosters or Davos,
How long does it take you to drive to St. Louice from Davos ?