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Zurich
HOTELS
-The Park Hyatt is fantastic and a 10 minute walk to shul.
Tram stop: Stockerstrasse

RESTAURANTS

Meat:

Florentin - Located inside he JCC https://florentin.rest/
Tram stop: Bahnhof Enge

Grill Cave

Food truck. Check website for opening hours. Burgers, sandwiches, hot dogs etc.
https://www.thegrillcave.co/


Milk/Parve:

Babi's Bagels (Bederstrasse corner Klopstockstrasse 8002 Zürich) Tram Stop "Waffenplatzstrasse"

Bakery:
Ma'Adan Bakery
Manessestrasse/Schimmelstrasse
Has delicious pastries and also sells sandwiches, salads, and some sushi.

Butcher:
Metzgerei Kol Tuv

Can preorder for pickup.
Can also deliver throughout Switzerland by post.
See website for details.

https://www.koltuv.ch/en

ATTRACTIONS
-Walk around the lake area
-Bahnhofstrasse window shopping
-Take a train to Lucerne and buy the golden ticket, included a boat ride on Lake Lucerne, cogwheel train and tram. Then take bus back to Lucerne
-When you arrive in Lucerne you can go to the tourist office to see a live view from Mount Pilatus (Or you can check online). If it's cloudy skip the cogwheel train and just take a nice boatride and explore the town, ancient bridges, and walk on top of the old city fortress walls.




Options in the Alps

Arosa: Metropol Hotel - quaint little old hotel. Not very fancy - it's like honeymooning in your grandmother's house (HT: Mrs. Moishebatchy). The food is very basic, but delicious. Mikva on premises. If skiing is your thing, the have an agreement with one of the ski places (Härtner) not to charge Metropol customers for ski rentals over Shabbos.


Need a meal on shabbes, please PM me (Chuchem). I live 15 minute walk from the hyatt, close to chabad. Zürich has no eiruv!

Major Attractions
“Please edit the wiki to add more attractions”

Central Switzerland
-Lucerne, Pilatus Offers: Cogwheel, Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mini Zip-line and fun area
-Titlis Offers: Gondolas, Snow Tubing, Trutti Bikes, Ice Museum, Row Boating
-Brunni Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Stroll in Lake(!)

Jungfrau Region
-Jungfrau/jungfraujoch Click here for the Kosher hotel in Wengen / 360-degree panorama of Jungfraujoch-Top of Europe
-Grindelwald Offers: Gondolas, mega Zip-line, Trutti Bikes

Eastern Switzerland
-St. Moritz
Davos / Klosters
Arosa Click here for the Kosher Levins hotel

Southern Switzerland
-Zermatt - "Matterhorn"
-Saas-Fee Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mega Zip-line, Trotti Bikes, (Saas-Grund has Monster Trotteres) and on top of "Allalin" you can go Snow Tubing and Skiing even in the summer!
-Crans Montana You can email the Kosher hotel in Crans Montana Hotelmk@gmail.com  or call them at 0032485640498 or 003233011600


HalbTax Pass

A HalbTax pass (or Half Fare card) is a card designated for tourists and not for Swiss residents (officially...). The card gives you half price on all public transportation like buses, trains, trams, boats and also on "most" cable cars (attractions). There are basically 4 kinds.

1) An annual pass, the price is currently 175 francs. If i remember correctly it has a photo ID of the recipient, so double check before sharing it.
Click here for the annual pass

2) A 30 day pass, the price is currently 120 francs, it does not have a photo ID on it.
Click here or here for the 30 day pass

3) - Recommended for frequent traveling Swiss Travel Pass - you prepay a set amount per day and get unlimited for that day (plus "optional" for a fee, for 1 month including the days you chose, it is a HalbTax, even on the prepaid free days, it's only free for all transportation, on cable cars you only get half off). The price per day depends on how many days you prepay, for example if you prepay 8 days, the price per day will be about 53 francs, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 73 francs. If you are 25 y/o or younger, you can get the Youth Pass which is cheaper - If you prepay 8 days  the price per day will be about 40 francs a day, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 62 francs.
Click here (or here) for the prepaid pass

The card comes with a few days “you could chose your dates later”, officially when you want to use a certain day for the free day you should fill in on the pass that date, and when the first conductor comes he punches that day, but technically you can leave the date blank until the conductor comes, that way you have a chance if no conductor asks you for your card (happens quite often) you can save it for the next day :)

4) Swiss Transfer Ticket" This card costs 141 francs and is valid for 2 trips from and to the boarder or airport, for example you are traveling from the airport to Arosa and are not planning to go anywhere else or take any other transportation, with this card you will effectively pay 71 francs per way. This card is only valid for trips to and from the airport or boarder and no (long) stops allowed. Technically if you will travel one more day, the Swiss travel pass mentioned above will probably be cheaper.

Make sure to order your pass a few weeks before leaving, it takes about 1-3 weeks for the pass to arrive. But you can always buy it in the Airport, though you might have to wait in line and also if you want to buy the Youth pass (for 25 y/o or younger) they might ask you for proof...

There is also a family pass if you travel with a large family, I am not familiar with that.


Fast Baggage
There is a service via SBB, They deliver your luggage for you!! For example you are traveling from ZRH to Arosa, you don't want to be busy Shlepping around your luggage, You can check in your luggage in the airport and they (SBB) will deliver it to the train station in Arosa. This service is available "from and to" most train stations in Switzerland. You can ask about the Fast Baggage by any train station or read here or here

You can even buy a tag that you put on the luggage before checking in your luggage in any airport (i.e. JFK) and Rail Europe will take your luggage from the airplane in Switzerland and deliver it either to your hotel or to the train station in the city you're going to.  Read about Flight Luggage Here




PS. When doing research and getting to a website in German, just add /en (after .ch) to translate to English.
And Hey, Don't forget to write a TR ;)

Sample Itinerary for 9 hour stopover on Swiss flight from TLV to U.S. that lands at 810 and takes off around 5
Copied from @cholent:
Here it is: landed in zrh, crazy line for entering country but moved pretty quickly, about half an hour. Picked up sim in the airport. Rented car through Priceline from europecar. Drove to Titlis, stunning scenery along drive. Missed a turnoff because I couldn't get Waze to talk and I was trying to do some stuff online while we were driving, added half an hour to get there, but the stunning scenery made it worthwhile. Got there, parked, you pay at the entrance if you're going to park for more than an hour. Paid, took the cable car. Got off at there halfway station by mistake, gorgeous lake. Went back on and back up to the top. It was somewhat cloudy which was a pity. Suspension bridge was fun but no view because of the clouds. Took the ice flyer to the other peak, then went sledding down the hill, lots of fun. No tubing because there wasn't enough snow. We didn't have enough time for the ice cave because of the extra time driving there and we weren't sure where it was anyway. Made some new Israeli friends and took the cable car down with them. Got back to the airport, returning the car took less than five minutes, getting through the airport took a little longer so we didn't have time for showers at the lounge. It was amazing all around, I would definitely recommend

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #880 on: February 04, 2015, 12:32:49 PM »
From the wiki
Make sure to order your pass a few weeks before leaving, it takes about 1-3 weeks for the pass to arrive.

I sent an email to sbb, and they told me no need to order in advance I could come and buy in the airport.


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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #881 on: February 04, 2015, 12:34:57 PM »
Wow, I don't realize that before.

On another note add to the wiki the hotel in Crans Montana.
When I was searching for a kosher hotel everyone told me only arosa.
In Crans Montana I hear it's nicer and 1000 chf cheaper per week.
Meir klein from Belgium takes the hotel for a few month in the year.
Hotelmk@gmail.com
0032485640498
003233011600
Crons Montana/Montana (announced as Cra'an Montana as its on the french side of Switzerland) is stunning. Minyan all year round. But, not much activities besides skiing (i guess for some its not a con) i added to the wiki but didn't fill out the info cuz its very complicated...

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #882 on: February 04, 2015, 12:36:40 PM »
From the wiki
Make sure to order your pass a few weeks before leaving, it takes about 1-3 weeks for the pass to arrive.

I sent an email to sbb, and they told me no need to order in advance I could come and buy in the airport.
Yes but

1)to avoid the line
2) they might ask for proof that you are 26 or younger...

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #883 on: February 04, 2015, 04:11:11 PM »
Does it make sense to visit one day with stop over in zurich? in May, stop is 13 hours about full day, how much can be covered in one day? Thanks.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #884 on: February 04, 2015, 04:14:20 PM »
You can probably hop over to Luceren

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #885 on: February 05, 2015, 11:56:28 AM »
You can probably hop over to Luceren
is that the main area? or must see when visiting zurich?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #886 on: February 05, 2015, 03:11:15 PM »
You can probably hop over to Luceren
Around how long does it take to get from Zurich to top of Pilatus and back?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #887 on: February 05, 2015, 03:13:11 PM »
Around how long does it take to get from Zurich to top of Pilatus and back?
Zurich to top of Pilatus a little less than 2 hours

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #888 on: February 05, 2015, 10:43:54 PM »
Zurich to top of Pilatus a little less than 2 hours
how much time about do you need at the Pilatus ? The easiest way to get there from the airport? Car? Train?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #889 on: February 05, 2015, 11:42:35 PM »
how much time about do you need at the Pilatus ? The easiest way to get there from the airport? Car? Train?
Train to Lucerne then train to Pilatus. You need approx 1-4 hours

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #890 on: February 06, 2015, 10:20:20 AM »
Train to Lucerne then train to Pilatus. You need approx 1-4 hours
From ZRH I can take train to Lucerne and then Train to Pilatus? Train travel time to Pilatus? Thanks.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #891 on: February 06, 2015, 10:32:48 AM »
From ZRH I can take train to Lucerne and then Train to Pilatus? Train travel time to Pilatus? Thanks.
Train ride from Zürich Flughafen to Luzern = 1 hour 2 minute. From Luzern to Kriens, Pilatus-Bahnen = 30 minutes.
You can check here http://fahrplan.sbb.ch/bin/query.exe/en

And another 20 minute for the Cogwheel. Keep in mind, you might have to wait for every train to come so always leave some extra extra time, especially if you are leaving Pilatus via chairlift, that requires a 10-15 minute walk to the tram and another 15 minute ride to the main train station, again "always leave extra time".

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #892 on: February 08, 2015, 11:31:06 AM »
If I am understanding correctly it looks like top of Pilatus is closed until March 31 and you can only go up till frakmuntegg. Is that still worth the trip from Zurich ?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #893 on: February 08, 2015, 11:45:48 AM »
If I am understanding correctly it looks like top of Pilatus is closed until March 31 and you can only go up till frakmuntegg. Is that still worth the trip from Zurich ?
How many hours do you have in Switzerland?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #894 on: February 08, 2015, 11:46:59 AM »
Landing sunday eve aprox 7:15 flight out the next day at 5:00 p.m.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #895 on: February 08, 2015, 11:50:18 AM »
Landing sunday eve aprox 7:15 flight out the next day at 5:00 p.m.
Why wouldn't you concider Titlis? Titlis which is only 2 hours from ZRH has much nicer views and the train station is 3 minutes from the entrance.
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #896 on: February 08, 2015, 12:03:07 PM »
Stay in engelberg overnight or is it doable from Zurich in a day

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #897 on: February 08, 2015, 12:08:32 PM »
Stay in engelberg overnight or is it doable from Zurich in a day
Stay in Engelberg or at least in Lucerne. Don't forget you have only till about 1:00pm when you have to leave for ZRH

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #898 on: February 08, 2015, 12:21:32 PM »
Yea. It seems like a lot to cram in. I am thinking of just taking park hyatt in Zurich and saving the alps for next time when I can do them properly.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #899 on: February 08, 2015, 12:28:09 PM »
Yea. It seems like a lot to cram in. I am thinking of just taking park hyatt in Zurich and saving the alps for next time when I can do them properly.
That's fine with me   you can go shopping in Zurich. C&A etc. Nice stores over there.
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