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Zurich
HOTELS
-The Park Hyatt is fantastic and a 10 minute walk to shul.
Tram stop: Stockerstrasse

RESTAURANTS

Meat:

Florentin - Located inside he JCC https://florentin.rest/
Tram stop: Bahnhof Enge

Grill Cave

Food truck. Check website for opening hours. Burgers, sandwiches, hot dogs etc.
https://www.thegrillcave.co/


Milk/Parve:

Babi's Bagels (Bederstrasse corner Klopstockstrasse 8002 Zürich) Tram Stop "Waffenplatzstrasse"

Bakery:
Ma'Adan Bakery
Manessestrasse/Schimmelstrasse
Has delicious pastries and also sells sandwiches, salads, and some sushi.

Butcher:
Metzgerei Kol Tuv

Can preorder for pickup.
Can also deliver throughout Switzerland by post.
See website for details.

https://www.koltuv.ch/en

ATTRACTIONS
-Walk around the lake area
-Bahnhofstrasse window shopping
-Take a train to Lucerne and buy the golden ticket, included a boat ride on Lake Lucerne, cogwheel train and tram. Then take bus back to Lucerne
-When you arrive in Lucerne you can go to the tourist office to see a live view from Mount Pilatus (Or you can check online). If it's cloudy skip the cogwheel train and just take a nice boatride and explore the town, ancient bridges, and walk on top of the old city fortress walls.




Options in the Alps

Arosa: Metropol Hotel - quaint little old hotel. Not very fancy - it's like honeymooning in your grandmother's house (HT: Mrs. Moishebatchy). The food is very basic, but delicious. Mikva on premises. If skiing is your thing, the have an agreement with one of the ski places (Härtner) not to charge Metropol customers for ski rentals over Shabbos.


Need a meal on shabbes, please PM me (Chuchem). I live 15 minute walk from the hyatt, close to chabad. Zürich has no eiruv!

Major Attractions
“Please edit the wiki to add more attractions”

Central Switzerland
-Lucerne, Pilatus Offers: Cogwheel, Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mini Zip-line and fun area
-Titlis Offers: Gondolas, Snow Tubing, Trutti Bikes, Ice Museum, Row Boating
-Brunni Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Stroll in Lake(!)

Jungfrau Region
-Jungfrau/jungfraujoch Click here for the Kosher hotel in Wengen / 360-degree panorama of Jungfraujoch-Top of Europe
-Grindelwald Offers: Gondolas, mega Zip-line, Trutti Bikes

Eastern Switzerland
-St. Moritz
Davos / Klosters
Arosa Click here for the Kosher Levins hotel

Southern Switzerland
-Zermatt - "Matterhorn"
-Saas-Fee Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mega Zip-line, Trotti Bikes, (Saas-Grund has Monster Trotteres) and on top of "Allalin" you can go Snow Tubing and Skiing even in the summer!
-Crans Montana You can email the Kosher hotel in Crans Montana Hotelmk@gmail.com  or call them at 0032485640498 or 003233011600


HalbTax Pass

A HalbTax pass (or Half Fare card) is a card designated for tourists and not for Swiss residents (officially...). The card gives you half price on all public transportation like buses, trains, trams, boats and also on "most" cable cars (attractions). There are basically 4 kinds.

1) An annual pass, the price is currently 175 francs. If i remember correctly it has a photo ID of the recipient, so double check before sharing it.
Click here for the annual pass

2) A 30 day pass, the price is currently 120 francs, it does not have a photo ID on it.
Click here or here for the 30 day pass

3) - Recommended for frequent traveling Swiss Travel Pass - you prepay a set amount per day and get unlimited for that day (plus "optional" for a fee, for 1 month including the days you chose, it is a HalbTax, even on the prepaid free days, it's only free for all transportation, on cable cars you only get half off). The price per day depends on how many days you prepay, for example if you prepay 8 days, the price per day will be about 53 francs, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 73 francs. If you are 25 y/o or younger, you can get the Youth Pass which is cheaper - If you prepay 8 days  the price per day will be about 40 francs a day, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 62 francs.
Click here (or here) for the prepaid pass

The card comes with a few days “you could chose your dates later”, officially when you want to use a certain day for the free day you should fill in on the pass that date, and when the first conductor comes he punches that day, but technically you can leave the date blank until the conductor comes, that way you have a chance if no conductor asks you for your card (happens quite often) you can save it for the next day :)

4) Swiss Transfer Ticket" This card costs 141 francs and is valid for 2 trips from and to the boarder or airport, for example you are traveling from the airport to Arosa and are not planning to go anywhere else or take any other transportation, with this card you will effectively pay 71 francs per way. This card is only valid for trips to and from the airport or boarder and no (long) stops allowed. Technically if you will travel one more day, the Swiss travel pass mentioned above will probably be cheaper.

Make sure to order your pass a few weeks before leaving, it takes about 1-3 weeks for the pass to arrive. But you can always buy it in the Airport, though you might have to wait in line and also if you want to buy the Youth pass (for 25 y/o or younger) they might ask you for proof...

There is also a family pass if you travel with a large family, I am not familiar with that.


Fast Baggage
There is a service via SBB, They deliver your luggage for you!! For example you are traveling from ZRH to Arosa, you don't want to be busy Shlepping around your luggage, You can check in your luggage in the airport and they (SBB) will deliver it to the train station in Arosa. This service is available "from and to" most train stations in Switzerland. You can ask about the Fast Baggage by any train station or read here or here

You can even buy a tag that you put on the luggage before checking in your luggage in any airport (i.e. JFK) and Rail Europe will take your luggage from the airplane in Switzerland and deliver it either to your hotel or to the train station in the city you're going to.  Read about Flight Luggage Here




PS. When doing research and getting to a website in German, just add /en (after .ch) to translate to English.
And Hey, Don't forget to write a TR ;)

Sample Itinerary for 9 hour stopover on Swiss flight from TLV to U.S. that lands at 810 and takes off around 5
Copied from @cholent:
Here it is: landed in zrh, crazy line for entering country but moved pretty quickly, about half an hour. Picked up sim in the airport. Rented car through Priceline from europecar. Drove to Titlis, stunning scenery along drive. Missed a turnoff because I couldn't get Waze to talk and I was trying to do some stuff online while we were driving, added half an hour to get there, but the stunning scenery made it worthwhile. Got there, parked, you pay at the entrance if you're going to park for more than an hour. Paid, took the cable car. Got off at there halfway station by mistake, gorgeous lake. Went back on and back up to the top. It was somewhat cloudy which was a pity. Suspension bridge was fun but no view because of the clouds. Took the ice flyer to the other peak, then went sledding down the hill, lots of fun. No tubing because there wasn't enough snow. We didn't have enough time for the ice cave because of the extra time driving there and we weren't sure where it was anyway. Made some new Israeli friends and took the cable car down with them. Got back to the airport, returning the car took less than five minutes, getting through the airport took a little longer so we didn't have time for showers at the lounge. It was amazing all around, I would definitely recommend

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #960 on: July 05, 2015, 03:39:51 PM »
Is the boat ride public transportation?
Yes

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #961 on: July 05, 2015, 03:55:17 PM »
Yes
Thanks alot - just to clarify will it cover the cable car as well?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #962 on: July 05, 2015, 03:57:46 PM »
Thanks alot - just to clarify will it cover the cable car as well?
It says very clear in the WIKI = yes

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #963 on: July 05, 2015, 04:03:32 PM »
It says very clear in the WIKI = yes
Thank you

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #964 on: July 05, 2015, 04:05:22 PM »
Thank you
It gives you by cabal cars half price

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #965 on: July 05, 2015, 04:29:11 PM »
Does geneva have a eiruv ?
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #966 on: July 05, 2015, 07:00:34 PM »
Does geneva have a eiruv ?
No. I don't know of any European city (besides Venice with an Eirev)

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #967 on: July 05, 2015, 07:08:00 PM »
No. I don't know of any European city (besides Venice with an Eirev)
i think vienna has one

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #968 on: July 05, 2015, 08:31:16 PM »

i think vienna has one
Now if only AC wouldn't charge YQ on Austrian.
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #969 on: July 05, 2015, 11:17:25 PM »

No. I don't know of any European city (besides Venice with an Eirev)
london?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #970 on: July 05, 2015, 11:19:01 PM »
no, london doesnt have.. being discussed though..

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Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #971 on: July 11, 2015, 05:53:30 PM »
I have a 9 1/2 stopover in ZRH. Arriving at 8:10 am departing at 5:45 pm. I was thinking of going to Lucerne and doing the  golden rt (Lucerne Pilatus). I spoke to someone from Switzerland last night and he told me not to go to Lucerne, rather stay in Zurich. I'm looking for a "second opinion". Am I stretching it? I know it's about an hr train ride ZRH-Lucerne, but maybe I'll be able to squeeze it in...?? What time would I have to leave Lucerne to make it back to the airport?
Any tips is greatly appreciated!

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #972 on: July 12, 2015, 12:39:24 PM »
I have a 9 1/2 stopover in ZRH. Arriving at 8:10 am departing at 5:45 pm. I was thinking of going to Lucerne and doing the  golden rt (Lucerne Pilatus). I spoke to someone from Switzerland last night and he told me not to go to Lucerne, rather stay in Zurich. I'm looking for a "second opinion". Am I stretching it? I know it's about an hr train ride ZRH-Lucerne, but maybe I'll be able to squeeze it in...?? What time would I have to leave Lucerne to make it back to the airport?
Any tips is greatly appreciated!
I don’t see why you should not squeeze it in. If it is a nice weather and you like nature then go. Even to be there for one hour pays!

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #973 on: July 12, 2015, 01:09:41 PM »

I don’t see why you should not squeeze it in. If it is a nice weather and you like nature then go. Even to be there for one hour pays!
Thanx! Sounds like a plan! What time do you think I should leave Lucerne back to the airport to make a 5:45 pm flight?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #974 on: July 13, 2015, 10:55:37 AM »
Thanx! Sounds like a plan! What time do you think I should leave Lucerne back to the airport to make a 5:45 pm flight?
It depends how fast you walk :), when the next train is etc. When you arrive there use your own judgment of when to leave. I would assume you should head down not later than 1:00 pm

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #975 on: July 13, 2015, 11:20:28 AM »
Is it possible to eat at Maljoa palace/galitsky without staying there?
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #976 on: July 13, 2015, 01:19:24 PM »
no, london doesnt have.. being discussed though..

London has at least 6 eiruvim that I am aware of, pretty sure there are more. Also one in Manchester.

Vienna, Amsterdam, Antwerp and Strasbourg also have.
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #977 on: July 13, 2015, 01:33:27 PM »
London has at least 6 eiruvim that I am aware of, pretty sure there are more. Also one in Manchester.

Vienna, Amsterdam, Antwerp and Strasbourg also have.
LOL a few private ones.

Where in Manchester and Antwerpen is there an Eirev?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #978 on: July 13, 2015, 03:23:15 PM »
Mulling the possibility of throwing in a 2 day or so stop in Zermatt on an future trip to Europe.  Would like to know if anyone has any trick to getting there and back.  We'll likely be passing through Geneva (though could pass through Zurich if that's better) and I see that the Swiss Transfer Ticket is about $155/ea.  Is this the cheapest option?

Is Zermatt worth the $310 to get there and back for wife and I? 

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #979 on: July 13, 2015, 03:31:30 PM »
Mulling the possibility of throwing in a 2 day or so stop in Zermatt on an future trip to Europe.  Would like to know if anyone has any trick to getting there and back.  We'll likely be passing through Geneva (though could pass through Zurich if that's better) and I see that the Swiss Transfer Ticket is about $155/ea.  Is this the cheapest option?

Is Zermatt worth the $310 to get there and back for wife and I? 
the symbol of switzerland is located there