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Zurich
HOTELS
-The Park Hyatt is fantastic and a 10 minute walk to shul.
Tram stop: Stockerstrasse

RESTAURANTS

Meat:

Florentin - Located inside he JCC https://florentin.rest/
Tram stop: Bahnhof Enge

Grill Cave

Food truck. Check website for opening hours. Burgers, sandwiches, hot dogs etc.
https://www.thegrillcave.co/


Milk/Parve:

Babi's Bagels (Bederstrasse corner Klopstockstrasse 8002 Zürich) Tram Stop "Waffenplatzstrasse"

Bakery:
Ma'Adan Bakery
Manessestrasse/Schimmelstrasse
Has delicious pastries and also sells sandwiches, salads, and some sushi.

Butcher:
Metzgerei Kol Tuv

Can preorder for pickup.
Can also deliver throughout Switzerland by post.
See website for details.

https://www.koltuv.ch/en

ATTRACTIONS
-Walk around the lake area
-Bahnhofstrasse window shopping
-Take a train to Lucerne and buy the golden ticket, included a boat ride on Lake Lucerne, cogwheel train and tram. Then take bus back to Lucerne
-When you arrive in Lucerne you can go to the tourist office to see a live view from Mount Pilatus (Or you can check online). If it's cloudy skip the cogwheel train and just take a nice boatride and explore the town, ancient bridges, and walk on top of the old city fortress walls.




Options in the Alps

Arosa: Metropol Hotel - quaint little old hotel. Not very fancy - it's like honeymooning in your grandmother's house (HT: Mrs. Moishebatchy). The food is very basic, but delicious. Mikva on premises. If skiing is your thing, the have an agreement with one of the ski places (Härtner) not to charge Metropol customers for ski rentals over Shabbos.


Need a meal on shabbes, please PM me (Chuchem). I live 15 minute walk from the hyatt, close to chabad. Zürich has no eiruv!

Major Attractions
“Please edit the wiki to add more attractions”

Central Switzerland
-Lucerne, Pilatus Offers: Cogwheel, Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mini Zip-line and fun area
-Titlis Offers: Gondolas, Snow Tubing, Trutti Bikes, Ice Museum, Row Boating
-Brunni Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Stroll in Lake(!)

Jungfrau Region
-Jungfrau/jungfraujoch Click here for the Kosher hotel in Wengen / 360-degree panorama of Jungfraujoch-Top of Europe
-Grindelwald Offers: Gondolas, mega Zip-line, Trutti Bikes

Eastern Switzerland
-St. Moritz
Davos / Klosters
Arosa Click here for the Kosher Levins hotel

Southern Switzerland
-Zermatt - "Matterhorn"
-Saas-Fee Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mega Zip-line, Trotti Bikes, (Saas-Grund has Monster Trotteres) and on top of "Allalin" you can go Snow Tubing and Skiing even in the summer!
-Crans Montana You can email the Kosher hotel in Crans Montana Hotelmk@gmail.com  or call them at 0032485640498 or 003233011600


HalbTax Pass

A HalbTax pass (or Half Fare card) is a card designated for tourists and not for Swiss residents (officially...). The card gives you half price on all public transportation like buses, trains, trams, boats and also on "most" cable cars (attractions). There are basically 4 kinds.

1) An annual pass, the price is currently 175 francs. If i remember correctly it has a photo ID of the recipient, so double check before sharing it.
Click here for the annual pass

2) A 30 day pass, the price is currently 120 francs, it does not have a photo ID on it.
Click here or here for the 30 day pass

3) - Recommended for frequent traveling Swiss Travel Pass - you prepay a set amount per day and get unlimited for that day (plus "optional" for a fee, for 1 month including the days you chose, it is a HalbTax, even on the prepaid free days, it's only free for all transportation, on cable cars you only get half off). The price per day depends on how many days you prepay, for example if you prepay 8 days, the price per day will be about 53 francs, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 73 francs. If you are 25 y/o or younger, you can get the Youth Pass which is cheaper - If you prepay 8 days  the price per day will be about 40 francs a day, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 62 francs.
Click here (or here) for the prepaid pass

The card comes with a few days “you could chose your dates later”, officially when you want to use a certain day for the free day you should fill in on the pass that date, and when the first conductor comes he punches that day, but technically you can leave the date blank until the conductor comes, that way you have a chance if no conductor asks you for your card (happens quite often) you can save it for the next day :)

4) Swiss Transfer Ticket" This card costs 141 francs and is valid for 2 trips from and to the boarder or airport, for example you are traveling from the airport to Arosa and are not planning to go anywhere else or take any other transportation, with this card you will effectively pay 71 francs per way. This card is only valid for trips to and from the airport or boarder and no (long) stops allowed. Technically if you will travel one more day, the Swiss travel pass mentioned above will probably be cheaper.

Make sure to order your pass a few weeks before leaving, it takes about 1-3 weeks for the pass to arrive. But you can always buy it in the Airport, though you might have to wait in line and also if you want to buy the Youth pass (for 25 y/o or younger) they might ask you for proof...

There is also a family pass if you travel with a large family, I am not familiar with that.


Fast Baggage
There is a service via SBB, They deliver your luggage for you!! For example you are traveling from ZRH to Arosa, you don't want to be busy Shlepping around your luggage, You can check in your luggage in the airport and they (SBB) will deliver it to the train station in Arosa. This service is available "from and to" most train stations in Switzerland. You can ask about the Fast Baggage by any train station or read here or here

You can even buy a tag that you put on the luggage before checking in your luggage in any airport (i.e. JFK) and Rail Europe will take your luggage from the airplane in Switzerland and deliver it either to your hotel or to the train station in the city you're going to.  Read about Flight Luggage Here




PS. When doing research and getting to a website in German, just add /en (after .ch) to translate to English.
And Hey, Don't forget to write a TR ;)

Sample Itinerary for 9 hour stopover on Swiss flight from TLV to U.S. that lands at 810 and takes off around 5
Copied from @cholent:
Here it is: landed in zrh, crazy line for entering country but moved pretty quickly, about half an hour. Picked up sim in the airport. Rented car through Priceline from europecar. Drove to Titlis, stunning scenery along drive. Missed a turnoff because I couldn't get Waze to talk and I was trying to do some stuff online while we were driving, added half an hour to get there, but the stunning scenery made it worthwhile. Got there, parked, you pay at the entrance if you're going to park for more than an hour. Paid, took the cable car. Got off at there halfway station by mistake, gorgeous lake. Went back on and back up to the top. It was somewhat cloudy which was a pity. Suspension bridge was fun but no view because of the clouds. Took the ice flyer to the other peak, then went sledding down the hill, lots of fun. No tubing because there wasn't enough snow. We didn't have enough time for the ice cave because of the extra time driving there and we weren't sure where it was anyway. Made some new Israeli friends and took the cable car down with them. Got back to the airport, returning the car took less than five minutes, getting through the airport took a little longer so we didn't have time for showers at the lounge. It was amazing all around, I would definitely recommend

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1180 on: January 17, 2016, 01:53:26 PM »
I checked the site but I can't find that option, also halbtax means half-price admission to attractions, ie. Pilatus, Titlus...?
you can buy the pass in the airport. Yes 50% off

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1181 on: January 17, 2016, 03:13:38 PM »
The issue is the rain and clouds which can be often.
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1182 on: January 17, 2016, 08:06:39 PM »
Saw this article on Yeshiva World about an old jewish cemetary in Zurich.

Anyone been there? Which, if any, gedoilim are buried there? Where is it?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1183 on: January 17, 2016, 08:28:57 PM »

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1184 on: January 17, 2016, 11:26:58 PM »
Honestly, I don't  think that by traveling to Arosa you know what the alps are all about :P

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1185 on: January 17, 2016, 11:42:23 PM »
Jungfraujoch - Top of Europe (from Zurich)
Rhine Falls

Which one is better? Is it a doable day trip from Zurich? Thanks!
Rheinfall is something you do on a few hour stopover.  It's nice, but shouldn't be at the top of your list.
Jungfrau will take up most of a day, very accessible with Switzerland's amazing public transport, but the train up there is one of the most expensive rides you can take.
If you can, you should definitely stay in Lucerne - not Zurich, as it is much more central and it's quite a charming city.
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1186 on: January 19, 2016, 04:49:18 AM »
Not sure where to ask this...can I book a Swissair flight with avios? If not what would I need to convert the avios to?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1187 on: January 19, 2016, 05:14:13 AM »
Not sure where to ask this...can I book a Swissair flight with avios? If not what would I need to convert the avios to?
Swiss is a star alliance member while Avios are for booking Oneworld, cannot redeem one for the other. Avios cannot be converted to anything useful for you in this case, you would need one of the transferable parent currencies ( Chase UR,Amex MR, SPG, Thank You Points)

You may want to Start Here   :)

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1188 on: January 19, 2016, 11:14:31 AM »
Rheinfall is something you do on a few hour stopover.  It's nice, but shouldn't be at the top of your list.
Jungfrau will take up most of a day, very accessible with Switzerland's amazing public transport, but the train up there is one of the most expensive rides you can take.
If you can, you should definitely stay in Lucerne - not Zurich, as it is much more central and it's quite a charming city.
Thanks a lot for your advice!

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1189 on: January 20, 2016, 04:31:11 AM »

For a travel pass it would undoubtedly be best to get the 3 day unlimited travel which is also a 7 day Halbtax

Are you referring to the Swiss Travel Pass?

Also, I'm looking for cheap non-kosher hotels in Engelberg (2 nights) and Wengen (1-2 nights) that can be booked with Avios- any suggestions?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1190 on: January 20, 2016, 05:35:24 AM »
Sell your avios and pay for the hotel.
״וזה כלל גדול: שישנא אדם כל דבר שקר. וכל מה שיוסיף שנאה לדרכי השקר – יוסיף אהבה לתורה.״ - אורחות צדיקים

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1191 on: January 20, 2016, 11:28:45 AM »
anyone know where I there is and early mnioen minceh

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1192 on: January 20, 2016, 10:04:24 PM »
anyone know where I there is and early mnioen minceh
Could you be a drop less vague?  Lugano? Bern? Schaffhausen? Munchenstein? Ostermundingen? Grandson?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1193 on: January 20, 2016, 10:53:28 PM »
Could you be a drop less vague?  Lugano? Bern? Schaffhausen? Munchenstein? Ostermundingen? Grandson?
on my way to the airport coming from levin hotel

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1194 on: January 20, 2016, 11:05:36 PM »
on my way to the airport coming from levin hotel
Probably in Zurich at Erikastrasse shul, they usually have a bunch, I don't know exactly what times you are going.  Anyways, I thought Arosa has minyanim?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1195 on: January 20, 2016, 11:18:29 PM »
I have to know for sure if they will have menin and what time could u please find me out ?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1196 on: January 24, 2016, 04:26:05 PM »
does anyone know how to check in my suit case all the way from nyc to arose with the train its called green line ?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1197 on: January 24, 2016, 07:48:34 PM »
does anyone know how to check in my suit case all the way from nyc to arose with the train its called green line ?
Read the last few pages

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« Reply #1198 on: January 24, 2016, 08:43:11 PM »
Read the last few pages
Yes o did can u link it please

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