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Kosher food list 2022

Zurich
HOTELS
-The Park Hyatt is fantastic and a 10 minute walk to shul.
Tram stop: Stockerstrasse

RESTAURANTS

Meat:

Florentin - Located inside he JCC https://florentin.rest/
Tram stop: Bahnhof Enge

Grill Cave

Food truck. Check website for opening hours. Burgers, sandwiches, hot dogs etc.
https://www.thegrillcave.co/


Milk/Parve:

Babi's Bagels (Bederstrasse corner Klopstockstrasse 8002 Zürich) Tram Stop "Waffenplatzstrasse"

Bakery:
Ma'Adan Bakery
Manessestrasse/Schimmelstrasse
Has delicious pastries and also sells sandwiches, salads, and some sushi.

Butcher:
Metzgerei Kol Tuv

Can preorder for pickup.
Can also deliver throughout Switzerland by post.
See website for details.

https://www.koltuv.ch/en

ATTRACTIONS
-Walk around the lake area
-Bahnhofstrasse window shopping
-Take a train to Lucerne and buy the golden ticket, included a boat ride on Lake Lucerne, cogwheel train and tram. Then take bus back to Lucerne
-When you arrive in Lucerne you can go to the tourist office to see a live view from Mount Pilatus (Or you can check online). If it's cloudy skip the cogwheel train and just take a nice boatride and explore the town, ancient bridges, and walk on top of the old city fortress walls.




Options in the Alps

Arosa: Metropol Hotel - quaint little old hotel. Not very fancy - it's like honeymooning in your grandmother's house (HT: Mrs. Moishebatchy). The food is very basic, but delicious. Mikva on premises. If skiing is your thing, the have an agreement with one of the ski places (Härtner) not to charge Metropol customers for ski rentals over Shabbos.


Need a meal on shabbes, please PM me (Chuchem). I live 15 minute walk from the hyatt, close to chabad. Zürich has no eiruv!

Major Attractions
“Please edit the wiki to add more attractions”

Central Switzerland
-Lucerne, Pilatus Offers: Cogwheel, Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mini Zip-line and fun area
-Titlis Offers: Gondolas, Snow Tubing, Trutti Bikes, Ice Museum, Row Boating
-Brunni Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Stroll in Lake(!)

Jungfrau Region
-Jungfrau/jungfraujoch Click here for the Kosher hotel in Wengen / 360-degree panorama of Jungfraujoch-Top of Europe
-Grindelwald Offers: Gondolas, mega Zip-line, Trutti Bikes

Eastern Switzerland
-St. Moritz
Davos / Klosters
Arosa Click here for the Kosher Levins hotel

Southern Switzerland
-Zermatt - "Matterhorn"
-Saas-Fee Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mega Zip-line, Trotti Bikes, (Saas-Grund has Monster Trotteres) and on top of "Allalin" you can go Snow Tubing and Skiing even in the summer!
-Crans Montana You can email the Kosher hotel in Crans Montana Hotelmk@gmail.com  or call them at 0032485640498 or 003233011600


HalbTax Pass

A HalbTax pass (or Half Fare card) is a card designated for tourists and not for Swiss residents (officially...). The card gives you half price on all public transportation like buses, trains, trams, boats and also on "most" cable cars (attractions). There are basically 4 kinds.

1) An annual pass, the price is currently 175 francs. If i remember correctly it has a photo ID of the recipient, so double check before sharing it.
Click here for the annual pass

2) A 30 day pass, the price is currently 120 francs, it does not have a photo ID on it.
Click here or here for the 30 day pass

3) - Recommended for frequent traveling Swiss Travel Pass - you prepay a set amount per day and get unlimited for that day (plus "optional" for a fee, for 1 month including the days you chose, it is a HalbTax, even on the prepaid free days, it's only free for all transportation, on cable cars you only get half off). The price per day depends on how many days you prepay, for example if you prepay 8 days, the price per day will be about 53 francs, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 73 francs. If you are 25 y/o or younger, you can get the Youth Pass which is cheaper - If you prepay 8 days  the price per day will be about 40 francs a day, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 62 francs.
Click here (or here) for the prepaid pass

The card comes with a few days “you could chose your dates later”, officially when you want to use a certain day for the free day you should fill in on the pass that date, and when the first conductor comes he punches that day, but technically you can leave the date blank until the conductor comes, that way you have a chance if no conductor asks you for your card (happens quite often) you can save it for the next day :)

4) Swiss Transfer Ticket" This card costs 141 francs and is valid for 2 trips from and to the boarder or airport, for example you are traveling from the airport to Arosa and are not planning to go anywhere else or take any other transportation, with this card you will effectively pay 71 francs per way. This card is only valid for trips to and from the airport or boarder and no (long) stops allowed. Technically if you will travel one more day, the Swiss travel pass mentioned above will probably be cheaper.

Make sure to order your pass a few weeks before leaving, it takes about 1-3 weeks for the pass to arrive. But you can always buy it in the Airport, though you might have to wait in line and also if you want to buy the Youth pass (for 25 y/o or younger) they might ask you for proof...

There is also a family pass if you travel with a large family, I am not familiar with that.


Fast Baggage
There is a service via SBB, They deliver your luggage for you!! For example you are traveling from ZRH to Arosa, you don't want to be busy Shlepping around your luggage, You can check in your luggage in the airport and they (SBB) will deliver it to the train station in Arosa. This service is available "from and to" most train stations in Switzerland. You can ask about the Fast Baggage by any train station or read here or here

You can even buy a tag that you put on the luggage before checking in your luggage in any airport (i.e. JFK) and Rail Europe will take your luggage from the airplane in Switzerland and deliver it either to your hotel or to the train station in the city you're going to.  Read about Flight Luggage Here




PS. When doing research and getting to a website in German, just add /en (after .ch) to translate to English.
And Hey, Don't forget to write a TR ;)

Sample Itinerary for 9 hour stopover on Swiss flight from TLV to U.S. that lands at 810 and takes off around 5
Copied from @cholent:
Here it is: landed in zrh, crazy line for entering country but moved pretty quickly, about half an hour. Picked up sim in the airport. Rented car through Priceline from europecar. Drove to Titlis, stunning scenery along drive. Missed a turnoff because I couldn't get Waze to talk and I was trying to do some stuff online while we were driving, added half an hour to get there, but the stunning scenery made it worthwhile. Got there, parked, you pay at the entrance if you're going to park for more than an hour. Paid, took the cable car. Got off at there halfway station by mistake, gorgeous lake. Went back on and back up to the top. It was somewhat cloudy which was a pity. Suspension bridge was fun but no view because of the clouds. Took the ice flyer to the other peak, then went sledding down the hill, lots of fun. No tubing because there wasn't enough snow. We didn't have enough time for the ice cave because of the extra time driving there and we weren't sure where it was anyway. Made some new Israeli friends and took the cable car down with them. Got back to the airport, returning the car took less than five minutes, getting through the airport took a little longer so we didn't have time for showers at the lounge. It was amazing all around, I would definitely recommend

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1220 on: February 04, 2016, 03:23:02 AM »
Would the kosher hotel allow you to just eat there if not staying with them? They will let but will charge..... To make up for not staying there.

Do the supermarkets there carry kosher food?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1221 on: February 04, 2016, 11:36:40 AM »
I was in Saas Fee, Zermett, Montana, St moritz, Wengen -my favorite, Lucern, Engelberg, and more... Last summer i was in Klosters and Davos.

Do you have contact info from the agencies you rented from in Wengen & Engelberg?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1222 on: February 04, 2016, 12:56:33 PM »
if I wont to go to Switzerland for a week what area should I cover I don't care about the food where should I stay ?
In the Summer? With kids or without?

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« Reply #1223 on: February 04, 2016, 12:59:36 PM »
Would the kosher hotel allow you to just eat there if not staying with them?

Do the supermarkets there carry kosher food?
The kosher hotel http://en.tourplus.co.il/kosher-hotel-in-switzerland-for-kosher-summer-vacation-in-swiss-2016 does allow you to buy food but they charge if i remember correctly 80-100 francs for supper...

The local groceries do carry Kosher bread and cereals etc (according to Kosher food list) but not milk or meat

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« Reply #1224 on: February 04, 2016, 01:02:02 PM »
Do you have contact info from the agencies you rented from in Wengen & Engelberg?
The contact for Engelberg is in my TR which you can find in the WIKI, the contact for Wengen i have somewhere i have to find it... I will PM you when i find it.

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« Reply #1225 on: February 04, 2016, 01:04:56 PM »
The kosher hotel http://en.tourplus.co.il/kosher-hotel-in-switzerland-for-kosher-summer-vacation-in-swiss-2016 does allow you to buy food but they charge if i remember correctly 80-100 francs for supper...

The local groceries do carry Kosher bread and cereals etc (according to Kosher food list) but not milk or meat
Aha. So what do people do about food, if not staying in the kosher hotel?
Bring from Zurich?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1226 on: February 04, 2016, 01:10:07 PM »
Aha. So what do people do about food, if not staying in the kosher hotel?
Bring from Zurich?

I was this summer in Davos rented an apartment from Mrs. Schmit.
Was very hard shlepping with food from Israel, with pots and pans, and wife had to cook every night.

Next time I would go to a kosher hotel.

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« Reply #1227 on: February 04, 2016, 01:10:35 PM »
Aha. So what do people do about food, if not staying in the kosher hotel?
Bring from Zurich?
That is one of the million dollar questions...

Yes, or take along meat. Keep in mind, most things you can buy ANYWHERE think about fruits veggies drinks

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« Reply #1228 on: February 04, 2016, 01:12:28 PM »
I was this summer in Davos rented an apartment from Mrs. Schmit.
Was very hard shlepping with food from Israel, with pots and pans, and wife had to cook every night.

Next time I would go to a kosher hotel.
If i would know you were there i would have sent you food... There is also a catering from ZRH that delivers every day supper to Davos for those who order #NextTime

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1229 on: February 04, 2016, 01:13:59 PM »
If i would know you were there i would have sent you food... There is also a catering from ZRH that delivers every day supper to Davos for those who order #NextTime

Thanks
But I was there for 10 days ;)

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« Reply #1230 on: February 04, 2016, 01:34:16 PM »
If i would know you were there i would have sent you food... There is also a catering from ZRH that delivers every day supper to Davos for those who order #NextTime
I'm guessing they don't deliver to wengen.

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« Reply #1231 on: February 04, 2016, 01:39:47 PM »
I'm guessing they don't deliver to wengen.
Correct. Wengen is over 3 hours from ZRH by train and can only by accessed by train. Cars are not allowed in the village, and in fact there is no road that leads to Wengen the only way is via train.

Davos has a big concentration of Yidden (a few hundred) in the summer (and another about 100 in Klosters that is only 20 minuted from Davos) and it is only 1.5 hours by car from Zurich therefore they provide food there.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1232 on: February 04, 2016, 01:43:39 PM »

Davos has a big concentration of Yidden (a few hundred) in the summer (and another about 100 in Klosters that is only 20 minuted from Davos) and it is only 1.5 hours by car from Zurich therefore they provide food there.

I went to Davos right after everyone left, so was quiet and tickets were much cheaper. But still had a minyen.
I would recommend doing that if you don't have kids going to school or work...

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« Reply #1233 on: February 04, 2016, 01:45:18 PM »
I went to Davos right after everyone left, so was quiet and tickets were much cheaper. But still had a minyen.
I would recommend doing that if you don't have kids going to school or work...
But then why wouldn't you go to the REAL alps?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1234 on: February 04, 2016, 01:51:07 PM »
The kosher hotel http://en.tourplus.co.il/kosher-hotel-in-switzerland-for-kosher-summer-vacation-in-swiss-2016 does allow you to buy food but they charge if i remember correctly 80-100 francs for supper...

The local groceries do carry Kosher bread and cereals etc (according to Kosher food list) but not milk or meat
Seems like the tour is only there Starting  end of June, I was looking to go beginning of April, any idea if Hotel Maribeau that was mentioned upthread will have Kosher food then?

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« Reply #1235 on: February 04, 2016, 01:53:06 PM »
Seems like the tour is only there Starting  end of June, I was looking to go beginning of April, any idea if Hotel Maribeau that was mentioned upthread will have Kosher food then?
You mean the one in Crans Montana? If it is open they should have Kosher food

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« Reply #1236 on: February 04, 2016, 01:53:45 PM »
You mean the one in Crans Montana? If it is open they should have Kosher food
Is it not in Wengen proper?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1237 on: February 04, 2016, 01:55:57 PM »
Is it not in Wengen proper?
No. Wengen is a town on Jungfrou mountain and is in central Switzerland.
Crans Montana is on Montana and is in Southern Switzerland.

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« Reply #1238 on: February 04, 2016, 01:57:14 PM »
No. Wengen is a town on Jungfrou mountain and is in central Switzerland.
Crans Montana is on Montana and is in Southern Switzerland.
Is Crans Montana as nice as Wengen?

Thanks alot for all your help BTW, much appreciated.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1239 on: February 04, 2016, 01:59:47 PM »
Is Crans Montana as nice as Wengen?

Thanks alot for all your help BTW, much appreciated.
Honestly, not as nice. CM is more of a ski resort area where-else Wengen is an expensive breathtaking village. But you have to look on what is easier and better for you.