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Zurich
HOTELS
-The Park Hyatt is fantastic and a 10 minute walk to shul.
Tram stop: Stockerstrasse

RESTAURANTS

Meat:

Florentin - Located inside he JCC https://florentin.rest/
Tram stop: Bahnhof Enge

Grill Cave

Food truck. Check website for opening hours. Burgers, sandwiches, hot dogs etc.
https://www.thegrillcave.co/


Milk/Parve:

Babi's Bagels (Bederstrasse corner Klopstockstrasse 8002 Zürich) Tram Stop "Waffenplatzstrasse"

Bakery:
Ma'Adan Bakery
Manessestrasse/Schimmelstrasse
Has delicious pastries and also sells sandwiches, salads, and some sushi.

Butcher:
Metzgerei Kol Tuv

Can preorder for pickup.
Can also deliver throughout Switzerland by post.
See website for details.

https://www.koltuv.ch/en

ATTRACTIONS
-Walk around the lake area
-Bahnhofstrasse window shopping
-Take a train to Lucerne and buy the golden ticket, included a boat ride on Lake Lucerne, cogwheel train and tram. Then take bus back to Lucerne
-When you arrive in Lucerne you can go to the tourist office to see a live view from Mount Pilatus (Or you can check online). If it's cloudy skip the cogwheel train and just take a nice boatride and explore the town, ancient bridges, and walk on top of the old city fortress walls.




Options in the Alps

Arosa: Metropol Hotel - quaint little old hotel. Not very fancy - it's like honeymooning in your grandmother's house (HT: Mrs. Moishebatchy). The food is very basic, but delicious. Mikva on premises. If skiing is your thing, the have an agreement with one of the ski places (Härtner) not to charge Metropol customers for ski rentals over Shabbos.


Need a meal on shabbes, please PM me (Chuchem). I live 15 minute walk from the hyatt, close to chabad. Zürich has no eiruv!

Major Attractions
“Please edit the wiki to add more attractions”

Central Switzerland
-Lucerne, Pilatus Offers: Cogwheel, Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mini Zip-line and fun area
-Titlis Offers: Gondolas, Snow Tubing, Trutti Bikes, Ice Museum, Row Boating
-Brunni Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Stroll in Lake(!)

Jungfrau Region
-Jungfrau/jungfraujoch Click here for the Kosher hotel in Wengen / 360-degree panorama of Jungfraujoch-Top of Europe
-Grindelwald Offers: Gondolas, mega Zip-line, Trutti Bikes

Eastern Switzerland
-St. Moritz
Davos / Klosters
Arosa Click here for the Kosher Levins hotel

Southern Switzerland
-Zermatt - "Matterhorn"
-Saas-Fee Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mega Zip-line, Trotti Bikes, (Saas-Grund has Monster Trotteres) and on top of "Allalin" you can go Snow Tubing and Skiing even in the summer!
-Crans Montana You can email the Kosher hotel in Crans Montana Hotelmk@gmail.com  or call them at 0032485640498 or 003233011600


HalbTax Pass

A HalbTax pass (or Half Fare card) is a card designated for tourists and not for Swiss residents (officially...). The card gives you half price on all public transportation like buses, trains, trams, boats and also on "most" cable cars (attractions). There are basically 4 kinds.

1) An annual pass, the price is currently 175 francs. If i remember correctly it has a photo ID of the recipient, so double check before sharing it.
Click here for the annual pass

2) A 30 day pass, the price is currently 120 francs, it does not have a photo ID on it.
Click here or here for the 30 day pass

3) - Recommended for frequent traveling Swiss Travel Pass - you prepay a set amount per day and get unlimited for that day (plus "optional" for a fee, for 1 month including the days you chose, it is a HalbTax, even on the prepaid free days, it's only free for all transportation, on cable cars you only get half off). The price per day depends on how many days you prepay, for example if you prepay 8 days, the price per day will be about 53 francs, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 73 francs. If you are 25 y/o or younger, you can get the Youth Pass which is cheaper - If you prepay 8 days  the price per day will be about 40 francs a day, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 62 francs.
Click here (or here) for the prepaid pass

The card comes with a few days “you could chose your dates later”, officially when you want to use a certain day for the free day you should fill in on the pass that date, and when the first conductor comes he punches that day, but technically you can leave the date blank until the conductor comes, that way you have a chance if no conductor asks you for your card (happens quite often) you can save it for the next day :)

4) Swiss Transfer Ticket" This card costs 141 francs and is valid for 2 trips from and to the boarder or airport, for example you are traveling from the airport to Arosa and are not planning to go anywhere else or take any other transportation, with this card you will effectively pay 71 francs per way. This card is only valid for trips to and from the airport or boarder and no (long) stops allowed. Technically if you will travel one more day, the Swiss travel pass mentioned above will probably be cheaper.

Make sure to order your pass a few weeks before leaving, it takes about 1-3 weeks for the pass to arrive. But you can always buy it in the Airport, though you might have to wait in line and also if you want to buy the Youth pass (for 25 y/o or younger) they might ask you for proof...

There is also a family pass if you travel with a large family, I am not familiar with that.


Fast Baggage
There is a service via SBB, They deliver your luggage for you!! For example you are traveling from ZRH to Arosa, you don't want to be busy Shlepping around your luggage, You can check in your luggage in the airport and they (SBB) will deliver it to the train station in Arosa. This service is available "from and to" most train stations in Switzerland. You can ask about the Fast Baggage by any train station or read here or here

You can even buy a tag that you put on the luggage before checking in your luggage in any airport (i.e. JFK) and Rail Europe will take your luggage from the airplane in Switzerland and deliver it either to your hotel or to the train station in the city you're going to.  Read about Flight Luggage Here




PS. When doing research and getting to a website in German, just add /en (after .ch) to translate to English.
And Hey, Don't forget to write a TR ;)

Sample Itinerary for 9 hour stopover on Swiss flight from TLV to U.S. that lands at 810 and takes off around 5
Copied from @cholent:
Here it is: landed in zrh, crazy line for entering country but moved pretty quickly, about half an hour. Picked up sim in the airport. Rented car through Priceline from europecar. Drove to Titlis, stunning scenery along drive. Missed a turnoff because I couldn't get Waze to talk and I was trying to do some stuff online while we were driving, added half an hour to get there, but the stunning scenery made it worthwhile. Got there, parked, you pay at the entrance if you're going to park for more than an hour. Paid, took the cable car. Got off at there halfway station by mistake, gorgeous lake. Went back on and back up to the top. It was somewhat cloudy which was a pity. Suspension bridge was fun but no view because of the clouds. Took the ice flyer to the other peak, then went sledding down the hill, lots of fun. No tubing because there wasn't enough snow. We didn't have enough time for the ice cave because of the extra time driving there and we weren't sure where it was anyway. Made some new Israeli friends and took the cable car down with them. Got back to the airport, returning the car took less than five minutes, getting through the airport took a little longer so we didn't have time for showers at the lounge. It was amazing all around, I would definitely recommend

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1280 on: March 13, 2016, 01:40:35 PM »
i have a full day inn switzerland and dont want to go to far frrom zrh where should i go?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1281 on: March 13, 2016, 02:46:56 PM »
i have a full day inn switzerland and dont want to go to far frrom zrh where should i go?
look into pilatus, titlis, Kleiner Scheidegg, depending on your time.
Or perhaps a boatride on Lake Lucerne.

I recommend you try to avoid the Zurich-Bern train route as it is does not have the scenery Switzerland is known for.
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1282 on: March 13, 2016, 04:15:01 PM »
look into pilatus, titlis, Kleiner Scheidegg, depending on your time.
Or perhaps a boatride on Lake Lucerne.

I recommend you try to avoid the Zurich-Bern train route as it is does not have the scenery Switzerland is known for.
my question was which one of those(or more tthan one( should i do?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1283 on: March 13, 2016, 09:24:54 PM »
my question was which one of those(or more tthan one( should i do?
I do not know exactly how much time you have.  These are just a few things that people manage to do on stopovers.  Don't count on doing more than one.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1284 on: March 13, 2016, 11:25:20 PM »
Reaching Zurich around 2 PM on Friday and leaving at 7 AM on Sunday from Zurich. Please advice things to do? Should we stay in Zurich or cover close by places? Indian filmmakers always show so much natural beauty in Switzerland that it has been always one of the top places to visit.

For now, have reserved Crown Plaza Zurich (had IHG points), but it is no-penalty cancellation.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1285 on: March 15, 2016, 04:00:29 PM »
Kleiner Scheidegg, depending on your time.
-1 won't work out due to time

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1286 on: March 15, 2016, 04:01:17 PM »
Bump.
In the summer or in the winter? Looking for a Kosher hotel or/and Minyan?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1287 on: March 15, 2016, 04:06:16 PM »
I do not know exactly how much time you have.  These are just a few things that people manage to do on stopovers.  Don't count on doing more than one.
i have a full day

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1288 on: March 15, 2016, 07:49:31 PM »
In the summer or in the winter? Looking for a Kosher hotel or/and Minyan?

Non 613 it appears, so question not relevant.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1289 on: March 16, 2016, 05:27:14 PM »
In the summer or in the winter? Looking for a Kosher hotel or/and Minyan?

Reaching there in June 10, so I guess it is Summer :)

Sorry don't know about  Kosher hotel or/and Minyan..I am Indian


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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1290 on: March 16, 2016, 09:18:13 PM »
Reaching there in June 10, so I guess it is Summer :)

Sorry don't know about  Kosher hotel or/and Minyan..I am Indian
Your options are unlimited from little traveling and nice views like Lucerne to more complex traveling but magnificent views like Jungfrau the downside is that you will not have too much time to enjoy and take in the scenery.

P.S. most of the Indian films (dances) recorded in Switzerland were taken by the mountains in the south boarding Italy like Zermatt

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1291 on: March 17, 2016, 11:55:32 AM »
Your options are unlimited from little traveling and nice views like Lucerne to more complex traveling but magnificent views like Jungfrau the downside is that you will not have too much time to enjoy and take in the scenery.

P.S. most of the Indian films (dances) recorded in Switzerland were taken by the mountains in the south boarding Italy like Zermatt

Thanks for the advice VacationLover. You are right that we won't have much time in Jungfrau. May be for next trip whence go to Zermatt.

Lucerne looks like doable in one day. I am thinking like spending half-day in Zurich (unless there is lot more things to do here) and then next day go to Lucerne. Is this good plan? How much is the train between Zurich - Lucerne.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1292 on: March 17, 2016, 11:59:04 AM »
Thanks for the advice VacationLover. You are right that we won't have much time in Jungfrau. May be for next trip whence go to Zermatt.

Lucerne looks like doable in one day. I am thinking like spending half-day in Zurich (unless there is lot more things to do here) and then next day go to Lucerne. Is this good plan? How much is the train between Zurich - Lucerne.
That sounds like a good plan to me. You can check the train timetable and prices here sbb.ch/en

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1293 on: March 17, 2016, 12:23:17 PM »
That sounds like a good plan to me. You can check the train timetable and prices here sbb.ch/en

So, not much do to in Zurich? Or, I guess what to do in Zurich in half-day?

Also, train ticket between Zurich - Lucerne is ~57 CHF..anyway to get it for less?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1294 on: March 17, 2016, 02:32:06 PM »
So, not much do to in Zurich? Or, I guess what to do in Zurich in half-day?

Also, train ticket between Zurich - Lucerne is ~57 CHF..anyway to get it for less?
There is what to do in Zurich, but not scenery-wise.  Train should only cost 25 IIRC.
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1295 on: March 17, 2016, 04:00:19 PM »
There is what to do in Zurich, but not scenery-wise.  Train should only cost 25 IIRC.

Sorry I should have bene clearer: what should we do in Zurich in half-day to cover the main things?

Is that train ticket of 25 RT or OW?

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« Reply #1296 on: March 17, 2016, 07:21:50 PM »
Sorry I should have bene clearer: what should we do in Zurich in half-day to cover the main things?

Is that train ticket of 25 RT or OW?
Most tourists stroll the streets or go shopping.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1297 on: March 17, 2016, 09:05:45 PM »
Is that train ticket of 25 RT or OW?
OW
Most tourists stroll the streets or go shopping.
+1 Bahnhofstrasse is popular.  Also, a walk along the lake can be nice, especially in the summer, and you can check out the old city.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1298 on: March 17, 2016, 10:07:32 PM »
Most tourists stroll the streets or go shopping.

Thanks.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1299 on: March 17, 2016, 10:07:47 PM »
OW+1 Bahnhofstrasse is popular.  Also, a walk along the lake can be nice, especially in the summer, and you can check out the old city.

Thanks, will do.