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Zurich
HOTELS
-The Park Hyatt is fantastic and a 10 minute walk to shul.
Tram stop: Stockerstrasse

RESTAURANTS

Meat:

Florentin - Located inside he JCC https://florentin.rest/
Tram stop: Bahnhof Enge

Grill Cave

Food truck. Check website for opening hours. Burgers, sandwiches, hot dogs etc.
https://www.thegrillcave.co/


Milk/Parve:

Babi's Bagels (Bederstrasse corner Klopstockstrasse 8002 Zürich) Tram Stop "Waffenplatzstrasse"

Bakery:
Ma'Adan Bakery
Manessestrasse/Schimmelstrasse
Has delicious pastries and also sells sandwiches, salads, and some sushi.

Butcher:
Metzgerei Kol Tuv

Can preorder for pickup.
Can also deliver throughout Switzerland by post.
See website for details.

https://www.koltuv.ch/en

ATTRACTIONS
-Walk around the lake area
-Bahnhofstrasse window shopping
-Take a train to Lucerne and buy the golden ticket, included a boat ride on Lake Lucerne, cogwheel train and tram. Then take bus back to Lucerne
-When you arrive in Lucerne you can go to the tourist office to see a live view from Mount Pilatus (Or you can check online). If it's cloudy skip the cogwheel train and just take a nice boatride and explore the town, ancient bridges, and walk on top of the old city fortress walls.




Options in the Alps

Arosa: Metropol Hotel - quaint little old hotel. Not very fancy - it's like honeymooning in your grandmother's house (HT: Mrs. Moishebatchy). The food is very basic, but delicious. Mikva on premises. If skiing is your thing, the have an agreement with one of the ski places (Härtner) not to charge Metropol customers for ski rentals over Shabbos.


Need a meal on shabbes, please PM me (Chuchem). I live 15 minute walk from the hyatt, close to chabad. Zürich has no eiruv!

Major Attractions
“Please edit the wiki to add more attractions”

Central Switzerland
-Lucerne, Pilatus Offers: Cogwheel, Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mini Zip-line and fun area
-Titlis Offers: Gondolas, Snow Tubing, Trutti Bikes, Ice Museum, Row Boating
-Brunni Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Stroll in Lake(!)

Jungfrau Region
-Jungfrau/jungfraujoch Click here for the Kosher hotel in Wengen / 360-degree panorama of Jungfraujoch-Top of Europe
-Grindelwald Offers: Gondolas, mega Zip-line, Trutti Bikes

Eastern Switzerland
-St. Moritz
Davos / Klosters
Arosa Click here for the Kosher Levins hotel

Southern Switzerland
-Zermatt - "Matterhorn"
-Saas-Fee Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mega Zip-line, Trotti Bikes, (Saas-Grund has Monster Trotteres) and on top of "Allalin" you can go Snow Tubing and Skiing even in the summer!
-Crans Montana You can email the Kosher hotel in Crans Montana Hotelmk@gmail.com  or call them at 0032485640498 or 003233011600


HalbTax Pass

A HalbTax pass (or Half Fare card) is a card designated for tourists and not for Swiss residents (officially...). The card gives you half price on all public transportation like buses, trains, trams, boats and also on "most" cable cars (attractions). There are basically 4 kinds.

1) An annual pass, the price is currently 175 francs. If i remember correctly it has a photo ID of the recipient, so double check before sharing it.
Click here for the annual pass

2) A 30 day pass, the price is currently 120 francs, it does not have a photo ID on it.
Click here or here for the 30 day pass

3) - Recommended for frequent traveling Swiss Travel Pass - you prepay a set amount per day and get unlimited for that day (plus "optional" for a fee, for 1 month including the days you chose, it is a HalbTax, even on the prepaid free days, it's only free for all transportation, on cable cars you only get half off). The price per day depends on how many days you prepay, for example if you prepay 8 days, the price per day will be about 53 francs, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 73 francs. If you are 25 y/o or younger, you can get the Youth Pass which is cheaper - If you prepay 8 days  the price per day will be about 40 francs a day, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 62 francs.
Click here (or here) for the prepaid pass

The card comes with a few days “you could chose your dates later”, officially when you want to use a certain day for the free day you should fill in on the pass that date, and when the first conductor comes he punches that day, but technically you can leave the date blank until the conductor comes, that way you have a chance if no conductor asks you for your card (happens quite often) you can save it for the next day :)

4) Swiss Transfer Ticket" This card costs 141 francs and is valid for 2 trips from and to the boarder or airport, for example you are traveling from the airport to Arosa and are not planning to go anywhere else or take any other transportation, with this card you will effectively pay 71 francs per way. This card is only valid for trips to and from the airport or boarder and no (long) stops allowed. Technically if you will travel one more day, the Swiss travel pass mentioned above will probably be cheaper.

Make sure to order your pass a few weeks before leaving, it takes about 1-3 weeks for the pass to arrive. But you can always buy it in the Airport, though you might have to wait in line and also if you want to buy the Youth pass (for 25 y/o or younger) they might ask you for proof...

There is also a family pass if you travel with a large family, I am not familiar with that.


Fast Baggage
There is a service via SBB, They deliver your luggage for you!! For example you are traveling from ZRH to Arosa, you don't want to be busy Shlepping around your luggage, You can check in your luggage in the airport and they (SBB) will deliver it to the train station in Arosa. This service is available "from and to" most train stations in Switzerland. You can ask about the Fast Baggage by any train station or read here or here

You can even buy a tag that you put on the luggage before checking in your luggage in any airport (i.e. JFK) and Rail Europe will take your luggage from the airplane in Switzerland and deliver it either to your hotel or to the train station in the city you're going to.  Read about Flight Luggage Here




PS. When doing research and getting to a website in German, just add /en (after .ch) to translate to English.
And Hey, Don't forget to write a TR ;)

Sample Itinerary for 9 hour stopover on Swiss flight from TLV to U.S. that lands at 810 and takes off around 5
Copied from @cholent:
Here it is: landed in zrh, crazy line for entering country but moved pretty quickly, about half an hour. Picked up sim in the airport. Rented car through Priceline from europecar. Drove to Titlis, stunning scenery along drive. Missed a turnoff because I couldn't get Waze to talk and I was trying to do some stuff online while we were driving, added half an hour to get there, but the stunning scenery made it worthwhile. Got there, parked, you pay at the entrance if you're going to park for more than an hour. Paid, took the cable car. Got off at there halfway station by mistake, gorgeous lake. Went back on and back up to the top. It was somewhat cloudy which was a pity. Suspension bridge was fun but no view because of the clouds. Took the ice flyer to the other peak, then went sledding down the hill, lots of fun. No tubing because there wasn't enough snow. We didn't have enough time for the ice cave because of the extra time driving there and we weren't sure where it was anyway. Made some new Israeli friends and took the cable car down with them. Got back to the airport, returning the car took less than five minutes, getting through the airport took a little longer so we didn't have time for showers at the lounge. It was amazing all around, I would definitely recommend

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1300 on: March 20, 2016, 08:03:06 AM »
anyone have info on the new spg design hotel The Cambrian, Adelboden?
is it near anything special?
how far from the closest minyan?
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1301 on: March 24, 2016, 05:52:57 AM »
anyone do lake lucerne and rigi/pilatus from zurich, any info?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1302 on: March 25, 2016, 08:24:54 AM »
anyone do lake lucerne and rigi/pilatus from zurich, any info?
What exactly is your question?  They were both discussed several times here. Rigi is a joke vs. Pilatus

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1303 on: March 30, 2016, 06:19:23 PM »
which is a better hotel to stay in sheraton stam or sheraton neoss shloss in terms of nicer and location(i have day pass so have the tram)?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1304 on: April 02, 2016, 02:57:44 PM »
going to zurich landing tue 9pm abd departing thur1035am, is it a waste to use free sign up nights on such a short 2 nights? (i have a reservation in sheraton around the corner 4 12k points currently 20k)

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1305 on: April 02, 2016, 03:36:09 PM »
going to zurich landing tue 9pm abd departing thur1035am, is it a waste to use free sign up nights on such a short 2 nights? (i have a reservation in sheraton around the corner 4 12k points currently 20k)
Meaning in the PH Zurich? Go for it. I did and I would again.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1306 on: May 18, 2016, 11:56:42 AM »
What are my options for phone service there for 2 weeks? Do they have reasonably priced plans in the airport?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1307 on: May 18, 2016, 12:06:43 PM »
Nothing is reasonably priced in Switzerland and definitely not in an airport... Sunrise is the cheapest of the big phone companies and lebara is a pay as you go with better international calling plans

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1308 on: May 18, 2016, 12:06:51 PM »
What are my options for phone service there for 2 weeks? Do they have reasonably priced plans in the airport?
I used to use Lebara they were very reasonable, now I use T-mobile

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1309 on: May 18, 2016, 11:54:41 PM »
What are my options for phone service there for 2 weeks? Do they have reasonably priced plans in the airport?
I used M Budget from the Migros a few years. Came out the cheapest. But can't you use the Israeli Sims? Don't they have free roaming in many European countries?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1310 on: May 19, 2016, 01:54:31 AM »
I used M Budget from the Migros a few years. Came out the cheapest. But can't you use the Israeli Sims? Don't they have free roaming in many European countries?
That's only one provider. This isn't for me.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1311 on: May 19, 2016, 11:55:15 AM »
What are my options for phone service there for 2 weeks? Do they have reasonably priced plans in the airport?

Have you considered T-Mobile's simple choice plans? It offers free data (at slow speed though) and texts, voice is $0.20/minute.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1312 on: June 07, 2016, 12:17:10 PM »
does it make sense to go to Switzerland for more than 2 days? i'm wondering if i should take it easy and relax there for 3/4 days and then move the vacation to Paris or Venice. i don't want to do more than 2/3 cities/countries and i have 10 days vacation including 2 shabbosim.

my question is, how long would it take to take a train from Zurich to Venice and how long till Paris. they both seem equal distance from ZRH
question 2, would it make more sense to do Paris, Zurich, and then Venice? (i must leave Sunday and would only do Venice on Shabbos)
question 3, is it too much to just park myself down in Zurich and just take it all in nice and slow?
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1313 on: June 07, 2016, 02:51:13 PM »
does it make sense to go to Switzerland for more than 2 days? i'm wondering if i should take it easy and relax there for 3/4 days and then move the vacation to Paris or Venice. i don't want to do more than 2/3 cities/countries and i have 10 days vacation including 2 shabbosim.
my question is, how long would it take to take a train from Zurich to Venice and how long till Paris. they both seem equal distance from ZRH

I think on your way by train Zürich to Venice you have to transfer in Milan, so if you are already there you might just as well look around.

question 2, would it make more sense to do Paris, Zurich, and then Venice? (i must leave Sunday and would only do Venice on Shabbos)
question 3, is it too much to just park myself down in Zurich and just take it all in nice and slow?
A lot depends on your mode of transportation between these cities. car, train, plane?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1314 on: June 07, 2016, 02:56:19 PM »
I think on your way by train Zürich to Venice you have to transfer in Milan, so if you are already there you might just as well look around.
A lot depends on your mode of transportation between these cities. car, train, plane?

was thinking of doing NYC>Venice Fri-Sunday/Monday

fly Venice>Paris Mon-Wed ($57)

train from Paris >Switzerland Wed-Sunday and then fly back home.

reasonable?
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1315 on: June 07, 2016, 03:08:42 PM »
was thinking of doing NYC>Venice Fri-Sunday/Monday

fly Venice>Paris Mon-Wed ($57)

train from Paris >Switzerland Wed-Sunday and then fly back home.

reasonable?
sounds good to me :)

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1316 on: June 08, 2016, 06:48:19 AM »
I would recommend to buy a sim from Yallo, i think they are cheapest for international calling and you can buy it in the airport. 

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« Reply #1317 on: June 08, 2016, 07:52:50 AM »
I would recommend to buy a sim from Yallo, i think they are cheapest for international calling and you can buy it in the airport.
Will keep that in mind. Thanks. Is that in the Venice wiki?
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1318 on: June 08, 2016, 12:16:05 PM »
does it make sense to go to Switzerland for more than 2 days? i'm wondering if i should take it easy and relax there for 3/4 days and then move the vacation to Paris or Venice. i don't want to do more than 2/3 cities/countries and i have 10 days vacation including 2 shabbosim.

my question is, how long would it take to take a train from Zurich to Venice and how long till Paris. they both seem equal distance from ZRH
question 2, would it make more sense to do Paris, Zurich, and then Venice? (i must leave Sunday and would only do Venice on Shabbos)
question 3, is it too much to just park myself down in Zurich and just take it all in nice and slow?
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does it make sense to go to Switzerland for more than 2 days? i'm wondering if i should take it easy and relax there for 3/4 days It really depends on your nature. My family travels every year to Switzerland and stay there the entire summer to relax... I usually go there for a week, not to relax but to tour and hike, have fun etc. Relaxing you can do at home or in Miami LOL. So it really depends on whether you are looking to relax or to have some fun and enjoy the scenes.

my question is, how long would it take to take a train from Zurich to Venice and how long till Paris Assuming you checked it on Google before posting here  :P I have traveled ZRH-VCE several times, both by train and by airplane and somehow I liked more the 45 minute flight than the 8 hour train ride with multiple stops.

question 3, is it too much to just park myself down in Zurich and just take it all in nice and slow? Again, depends on your nature and what YOU like, But regardless if you want to tour, relax or hike  an epic trail I would not stay in Zurich but in a town on the Alps.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1319 on: June 20, 2016, 10:56:08 AM »
Im looking at being in the alps for Sukkos, and / or the shabbos after sukkos. Are there any all year round minyanim / programs with our without food in the alps?