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Zurich
HOTELS
-The Park Hyatt is fantastic and a 10 minute walk to shul.
Tram stop: Stockerstrasse

RESTAURANTS

Meat:

Olive Garden - Located inside he JCC
Tram stop: Bahnhof Enge


Milk/Parve:

Fein und Schein - cafe type of place; ambience lacking, but hey, food is food

Bagels and Co.  (Bederstrasse corner Klopstockstrasse 8002 Zürich) Tram Stop "Waffenplatzstrasse"

Books & Bagels - combination bagel shop and judaica store

Bakery:

ATTRACTIONS
-Walk around the lake area
-Bahnhofstrasse window shopping
-Take a train to Lucerne and buy the golden ticket, included a boat ride on Lake Lucerne, cogwheel train and tram. Then take bus back to Lucerne
-When you arrive in Lucerne you can go to the tourist office to see a live view from Mount Pilatus (Or you can check online). If it's cloudy skip the cogwheel train and just take a nice boatride and explore the town, ancient bridges, and walk on top of the old city fortress walls.




Options in the Alps

Arosa: Metropol Hotel - quaint little old hotel. Not very fancy - it's like honeymooning in your grandmother's house (HT: Mrs. Moishebatchy). The food is very basic, but delicious. Mikva on premises. If skiing is your thing, the have an agreement with one of the ski places (Härtner) not to charge Metropol customers for ski rentals over Shabbos.


Need a meal on shabbes, please PM me (Chuchem). I live 15 minute walk from the hyatt, close to chabad. Zürich has no eiruv!

Major Attractions
“Please edit the wiki to add more attractions”

Central Switzerland
-Lucerne, Pilatus Offers: Cogwheel, Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mini Zip-line and fun area
-Titlis Offers: Gondolas, Snow Tubing, Trutti Bikes, Ice Museum, Row Boating
-Brunni Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Stroll in Lake(!)

Jungfrau Region
-Jungfrau/jungfraujoch Click here for the Kosher hotel in Wengen / 360-degree panorama of Jungfraujoch-Top of Europe
-Grindelwald Offers: Gondolas, mega Zip-line, Trutti Bikes

Eastern Switzerland
-St. Moritz
Davos / Klosters
Arosa Click here for the Kosher Levins hotel

Southern Switzerland
-Zermatt - "Matterhorn"
-Saas-Fee Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mega Zip-line, Trotti Bikes, (Saas-Grund has Monster Trotteres) and on top of "Allalin" you can go Snow Tubing and Skiing even in the summer!
-Crans Montana You can email the Kosher hotel in Crans Montana Hotelmk@gmail.com  or call them at 0032485640498 or 003233011600


HalbTax Pass

A HalbTax pass (or Half Fare card) is a card designated for tourists and not for Swiss residents (officially...). The card gives you half price on all public transportation like buses, trains, trams, boats and also on "most" cable cars (attractions). There are basically 4 kinds.

1) An annual pass, the price is currently 175 francs. If i remember correctly it has a photo ID of the recipient, so double check before sharing it.
Click here for the annual pass

2) A 30 day pass, the price is currently 120 francs, it does not have a photo ID on it.
Click here or here for the 30 day pass

3) - Recommended for frequent traveling Swiss Travel Pass - you prepay a set amount per day and get unlimited for that day (plus "optional" for a fee, for 1 month including the days you chose, it is a HalbTax, even on the prepaid free days, it's only free for all transportation, on cable cars you only get half off). The price per day depends on how many days you prepay, for example if you prepay 8 days, the price per day will be about 53 francs, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 73 francs. If you are 25 y/o or younger, you can get the Youth Pass which is cheaper - If you prepay 8 days  the price per day will be about 40 francs a day, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 62 francs.
Click here (or here) for the prepaid pass

The card comes with a few days “you could chose your dates later”, officially when you want to use a certain day for the free day you should fill in on the pass that date, and when the first conductor comes he punches that day, but technically you can leave the date blank until the conductor comes, that way you have a chance if no conductor asks you for your card (happens quite often) you can save it for the next day :)

4) Swiss Transfer Ticket" This card costs 141 francs and is valid for 2 trips from and to the boarder or airport, for example you are traveling from the airport to Arosa and are not planning to go anywhere else or take any other transportation, with this card you will effectively pay 71 francs per way. This card is only valid for trips to and from the airport or boarder and no (long) stops allowed. Technically if you will travel one more day, the Swiss travel pass mentioned above will probably be cheaper.

Make sure to order your pass a few weeks before leaving, it takes about 1-3 weeks for the pass to arrive. But you can always buy it in the Airport, though you might have to wait in line and also if you want to buy the Youth pass (for 25 y/o or younger) they might ask you for proof...

There is also a family pass if you travel with a large family, I am not familiar with that.


Fast Baggage
There is a service via SBB, They deliver your luggage for you!! For example you are traveling from ZRH to Arosa, you don't want to be busy Shlepping around your luggage, You can check in your luggage in the airport and they (SBB) will deliver it to the train station in Arosa. This service is available "from and to" most train stations in Switzerland. You can ask about the Fast Baggage by any train station or read here or here

You can even buy a tag that you put on the luggage before checking in your luggage in any airport (i.e. JFK) and Rail Europe will take your luggage from the airplane in Switzerland and deliver it either to your hotel or to the train station in the city you're going to.  Read about Flight Luggage Here




PS. When doing research and getting to a website in German, just add /en (after .ch) to translate to English.
And Hey, Don't forget to write a TR ;)

Sample Itinerary for 9 hour stopover on Swiss flight from TLV to U.S. that lands at 810 and takes off around 5
Copied from @cholent:
Here it is: landed in zrh, crazy line for entering country but moved pretty quickly, about half an hour. Picked up sim in the airport. Rented car through Priceline from europecar. Drove to Titlis, stunning scenery along drive. Missed a turnoff because I couldn't get Waze to talk and I was trying to do some stuff online while we were driving, added half an hour to get there, but the stunning scenery made it worthwhile. Got there, parked, you pay at the entrance if you're going to park for more than an hour. Paid, took the cable car. Got off at there halfway station by mistake, gorgeous lake. Went back on and back up to the top. It was somewhat cloudy which was a pity. Suspension bridge was fun but no view because of the clouds. Took the ice flyer to the other peak, then went sledding down the hill, lots of fun. No tubing because there wasn't enough snow. We didn't have enough time for the ice cave because of the extra time driving there and we weren't sure where it was anyway. Made some new Israeli friends and took the cable car down with them. Got back to the airport, returning the car took less than five minutes, getting through the airport took a little longer so we didn't have time for showers at the lounge. It was amazing all around, I would definitely recommend

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1515 on: May 24, 2017, 02:06:26 AM »
Posting for a friend:

3 Chassidishe Bucherim are flying into Zurich for a wedding after Shavous and arriving at 05:00 PM. They will be returning the following day at 07:40 P.M. to a Non Schengen EU Country.
I know that it is a short turn but I am wondering if you all have any appropriate suggestions for Day 2 in/around Zurich?

Would highly recommend that they take the train to Luzern on Day 2. There are two trains each hour, and they could leave their luggage in the Luzern train station, and then they could go directly to the airport from there, about an hour ride. Luzern is much more scenic.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1516 on: May 24, 2017, 02:23:59 AM »
Would highly recommend that they take the train to Luzern on Day 2. There are two trains each hour, and they could leave their luggage in the Luzern train station, and then they could go directly to the airport from there, about an hour ride. Luzern is much more scenic.
Considering the time constraints, will they be able to do an activity in Luzerne? If so, what is recommended? If not, is the idea of the train ride to take in the views? Also, would it be possible to catch a minyan mincha somewhere?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1517 on: May 24, 2017, 03:14:39 AM »
Posting for a friend:

3 Chassidishe Bucherim are flying into Zurich for a wedding after Shavous and arriving at 05:00 PM. They will be returning the following day at 07:40 P.M. to a Non Schengen EU Country.
I know that it is a short turn but I am wondering if you all have any appropriate suggestions for Day 2 in/around Zurich?

If you're not looking to travel and want to stay in Zurich, you could do, Üetliberg, Boat ride, Walk around the lake area, Bahnhofstrasse window shopping, Zurich zoo, Zurich Tram Museum, Botanical Garden... but if you are willing to travel a bit further out  Lucerne is beautiful, and it's about an hour and a half away, and Mt. Titlis or Mt. Pilatus, is about two and a half.
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1518 on: May 24, 2017, 03:20:01 AM »
If you're not looking to travel and want to stay in Zurich, you could do, Üetliberg, Boat ride, Walk around the lake area, Bahnhofstrasse window shopping, Zurich zoo, Zurich Tram Museum, Botanical Garden... but if you are willing to travel a bit further out  Lucerne is beautiful, and it's about an hour and a half away, and Mt. Titlis or Mt. Pilatus, is about two and a half.
Considering the flight departs at 07:40, they'd have to leave Lucerne at 04:30.
How many hours are needed in Lucerne and what activities are there?

ETA: Lucerne to ZRH is 1:14 travel time by train.
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1519 on: May 24, 2017, 04:30:38 AM »
Note, in ZRH airport you can check in till 60 minutes before your flight if you are flying internationally. If one is flying Swiss one can check in their luggage night before. If one is flying with just carry on, one can arrive 30 minutes before departure and still make it, unless you are flying El Al or direct flight to the US.

They can take the 17:10 train and arrive in airport at 18:13.

Considering the flight departs at 07:40, they'd have to leave Lucerne at 04:30.
How many hours are needed in Lucerne and what activities are there?

ETA: Lucerne to ZRH is 1:14 travel time by train.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1520 on: May 24, 2017, 10:01:30 AM »
If you're not looking to travel and want to stay in Zurich, you could do, Üetliberg, Boat ride, Walk around the lake area, Bahnhofstrasse window shopping, Zurich zoo, Zurich Tram Museum, Botanical Garden... but if you are willing to travel a bit further out  Lucerne is beautiful, and it's about an hour and a half away, and Mt. Titlis or Mt. Pilatus, is about two and a half.
Uetliberg? That's a real mountain?  :P


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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1521 on: May 24, 2017, 10:38:47 AM »
Can anyone please be so kind and post an itinerary or ideas of most scenic outing in the St moritz-Engadine  area in the summer.
Will be there for about a week.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1522 on: May 24, 2017, 11:06:07 AM »
Can anyone please be so kind and post an itinerary or ideas of most scenic outing in the St moritz-Engadine  area in the summer.
Will be there for about a week.
Not to be snarky, but would you be so kind to read and search this thread for the relevant info? There is a ton of useful info and very helpful posters, it would be very considerate if you not to make them post everything again.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1523 on: May 24, 2017, 11:55:17 AM »
Note, in ZRH airport you can check in till 60 minutes before your flight if you are flying internationally. If one is flying Swiss one can check in their luggage night before. If one is flying with just carry on, one can arrive 30 minutes before departure and still make it, unless you are flying El Al or direct flight to the US.

They can take the 17:10 train and arrive in airport at 18:13.
They are flying with BA to LHR.

How much time is needed in Luzerne and which attractions would be best suited for that amount of time?
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1524 on: May 24, 2017, 01:35:22 PM »
They are flying with BA to LHR.

How much time is needed in Luzerne and which attractions would be best suited for that amount of time?
Well, if you're going to Switzerland you're not going there for something you can do all over. I'm not so knowledgeable, but I'm assuming the more knowledgeable here would say to go to the Pilatus or Rigi near Lucerne.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1525 on: May 24, 2017, 02:17:39 PM »
Not to be snarky, but would you be so kind to read and search this thread for the relevant info? There is a ton of useful info and very helpful posters, it would be very considerate if you not to make them post everything again.
YELPED I ACTUALLY READ THROUGH ALL 102 PAGES BEFORE ASKING FOR HELP and did not find the info i was looking for.
if there is anyone that can share their experince of the so many thing in the st moritz area it will be very much apreciated

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1526 on: May 24, 2017, 02:29:07 PM »
Not to be snarky, but would you be so kind to read and search this thread for the relevant info? There is a ton of useful info and very helpful posters, it would be very considerate if you not to make them post everything again.

yelped, If you have nothing to add or nice to say, why don't you be so "kind" and"considerate" and keep your "snarky" comments to you yourself.
All the he's trying to get is get some helpful info on a "supposedly helpful" forum. Did you bother reading through all the gaziilion pages to see if his question has even been answered?!?! No you didn't! But you just shoot snarky comments. The answer is, his question of "personal experience" has not been answered in all the previous pages!
Shout out to Meshugener!

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1527 on: May 24, 2017, 03:47:03 PM »
YELPED I ACTUALLY READ THROUGH ALL 102 PAGES BEFORE ASKING FOR HELP and did not find the info i was looking for.
if there is anyone that can share their experince of the so many thing in the st moritz area it will be very much apreciated
Good for you. Then ask away. Thank you for taking the time to read it and not ask duplicate questions ensuring that the helpful people here will continue to be helpful and not grow tired of answering the same questions that people expect to get answered as if they're getting paid for it.
yelped, If you have nothing to add or nice to say, why don't you be so "kind" and"considerate" and keep your "snarky" comments to you yourself.
All the he's trying to get is get some helpful info on a "supposedly helpful" forum. Did you bother reading through all the gaziilion pages to see if his question has even been answered?!?! No you didn't! But you just shoot snarky comments. The answer is, his question of "personal experience" has not been answered in all the previous pages!
Hello. I'm not quite sure what you're getting so worked up about. All I requested is that the poster should try to find the relevant info before asking to ensure that it wasn't asked before so that he is respectful of the help that is given here for free.

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« Reply #1528 on: May 24, 2017, 03:49:42 PM »
YELPED I ACTUALLY READ THROUGH ALL 102 PAGES BEFORE ASKING FOR HELP and did not find the info i was looking for.
if there is anyone that can share their experince of the so many thing in the st moritz area it will be very much apreciated
Why don't you post or research the threads at the following URLS: Use the search function

https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowForum-g188045-i336-Switzerland.html

https://www.lonelyplanet.com/thorntree/forums/europe-western-europe/switzerland

https://www.ricksteves.com/europe/switzerland/itinerary

https://community.ricksteves.com/travel-forum/switzerland

http://www.myswissalps.com/forum
And, by the way, Saulius responded to your question just last week with the above response. And I'm pretty sure this was discussed numerous times. So I'm not sure which 102 pages of which thread you were reading.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1529 on: May 24, 2017, 04:25:19 PM »
And, by the way, Saulius responded to your question just last week with the above response. And I'm pretty sure this was discussed numerous times. So I'm not sure which 102 pages of which thread you were reading.
I also know how to look up things on trip advisor but what i was looking for is personal insight from a heimishe person who share similar interests,
 there are great ideas and helpful tips or itinerary that ppl posted on different areas like Luzern Wengen and yet haven't seen one on St moritz area, now being that there are so many hikes etc in the area and cant do all i was looking for some advice, but chas vishalom i didn't want to be matriach ppl like you who find it difficult.