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Zurich
HOTELS
-The Park Hyatt is fantastic and a 10 minute walk to shul.
Tram stop: Stockerstrasse

RESTAURANTS

Meat:

Olive Garden - Located inside he JCC
Tram stop: Bahnhof Enge


Milk/Parve:

Fein und Schein - cafe type of place; ambience lacking, but hey, food is food

Bagels and Co.  (Bederstrasse corner Klopstockstrasse 8002 Zürich) Tram Stop "Waffenplatzstrasse"

Books & Bagels - combination bagel shop and judaica store

Bakery:

ATTRACTIONS
-Walk around the lake area
-Bahnhofstrasse window shopping
-Take a train to Lucerne and buy the golden ticket, included a boat ride on Lake Lucerne, cogwheel train and tram. Then take bus back to Lucerne
-When you arrive in Lucerne you can go to the tourist office to see a live view from Mount Pilatus (Or you can check online). If it's cloudy skip the cogwheel train and just take a nice boatride and explore the town, ancient bridges, and walk on top of the old city fortress walls.




Options in the Alps

Arosa: Metropol Hotel - quaint little old hotel. Not very fancy - it's like honeymooning in your grandmother's house (HT: Mrs. Moishebatchy). The food is very basic, but delicious. Mikva on premises. If skiing is your thing, the have an agreement with one of the ski places (Härtner) not to charge Metropol customers for ski rentals over Shabbos.


Need a meal on shabbes, please PM me (Chuchem). I live 15 minute walk from the hyatt, close to chabad. Zürich has no eiruv!

Major Attractions
“Please edit the wiki to add more attractions”

Central Switzerland
-Lucerne, Pilatus Offers: Cogwheel, Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mini Zip-line and fun area
-Titlis Offers: Gondolas, Snow Tubing, Trutti Bikes, Ice Museum, Row Boating
-Brunni Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Stroll in Lake(!)

Jungfrau Region
-Jungfrau/jungfraujoch Click here for the Kosher hotel in Wengen / 360-degree panorama of Jungfraujoch-Top of Europe
-Grindelwald Offers: Gondolas, mega Zip-line, Trutti Bikes

Eastern Switzerland
-St. Moritz
Davos / Klosters
Arosa Click here for the Kosher Levins hotel

Southern Switzerland
-Zermatt - "Matterhorn"
-Saas-Fee Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mega Zip-line, Trotti Bikes, (Saas-Grund has Monster Trotteres) and on top of "Allalin" you can go Snow Tubing and Skiing even in the summer!
-Crans Montana You can email the Kosher hotel in Crans Montana Hotelmk@gmail.com  or call them at 0032485640498 or 003233011600


HalbTax Pass

A HalbTax pass (or Half Fare card) is a card designated for tourists and not for Swiss residents (officially...). The card gives you half price on all public transportation like buses, trains, trams, boats and also on "most" cable cars (attractions). There are basically 4 kinds.

1) An annual pass, the price is currently 175 francs. If i remember correctly it has a photo ID of the recipient, so double check before sharing it.
Click here for the annual pass

2) A 30 day pass, the price is currently 120 francs, it does not have a photo ID on it.
Click here or here for the 30 day pass

3) - Recommended for frequent traveling Swiss Travel Pass - you prepay a set amount per day and get unlimited for that day (plus "optional" for a fee, for 1 month including the days you chose, it is a HalbTax, even on the prepaid free days, it's only free for all transportation, on cable cars you only get half off). The price per day depends on how many days you prepay, for example if you prepay 8 days, the price per day will be about 53 francs, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 73 francs. If you are 25 y/o or younger, you can get the Youth Pass which is cheaper - If you prepay 8 days  the price per day will be about 40 francs a day, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 62 francs.
Click here (or here) for the prepaid pass

The card comes with a few days “you could chose your dates later”, officially when you want to use a certain day for the free day you should fill in on the pass that date, and when the first conductor comes he punches that day, but technically you can leave the date blank until the conductor comes, that way you have a chance if no conductor asks you for your card (happens quite often) you can save it for the next day :)

4) Swiss Transfer Ticket" This card costs 141 francs and is valid for 2 trips from and to the boarder or airport, for example you are traveling from the airport to Arosa and are not planning to go anywhere else or take any other transportation, with this card you will effectively pay 71 francs per way. This card is only valid for trips to and from the airport or boarder and no (long) stops allowed. Technically if you will travel one more day, the Swiss travel pass mentioned above will probably be cheaper.

Make sure to order your pass a few weeks before leaving, it takes about 1-3 weeks for the pass to arrive. But you can always buy it in the Airport, though you might have to wait in line and also if you want to buy the Youth pass (for 25 y/o or younger) they might ask you for proof...

There is also a family pass if you travel with a large family, I am not familiar with that.


Fast Baggage
There is a service via SBB, They deliver your luggage for you!! For example you are traveling from ZRH to Arosa, you don't want to be busy Shlepping around your luggage, You can check in your luggage in the airport and they (SBB) will deliver it to the train station in Arosa. This service is available "from and to" most train stations in Switzerland. You can ask about the Fast Baggage by any train station or read here or here

You can even buy a tag that you put on the luggage before checking in your luggage in any airport (i.e. JFK) and Rail Europe will take your luggage from the airplane in Switzerland and deliver it either to your hotel or to the train station in the city you're going to.  Read about Flight Luggage Here




PS. When doing research and getting to a website in German, just add /en (after .ch) to translate to English.
And Hey, Don't forget to write a TR ;)

Sample Itinerary for 9 hour stopover on Swiss flight from TLV to U.S. that lands at 810 and takes off around 5
Copied from @cholent:
Here it is: landed in zrh, crazy line for entering country but moved pretty quickly, about half an hour. Picked up sim in the airport. Rented car through Priceline from europecar. Drove to Titlis, stunning scenery along drive. Missed a turnoff because I couldn't get Waze to talk and I was trying to do some stuff online while we were driving, added half an hour to get there, but the stunning scenery made it worthwhile. Got there, parked, you pay at the entrance if you're going to park for more than an hour. Paid, took the cable car. Got off at there halfway station by mistake, gorgeous lake. Went back on and back up to the top. It was somewhat cloudy which was a pity. Suspension bridge was fun but no view because of the clouds. Took the ice flyer to the other peak, then went sledding down the hill, lots of fun. No tubing because there wasn't enough snow. We didn't have enough time for the ice cave because of the extra time driving there and we weren't sure where it was anyway. Made some new Israeli friends and took the cable car down with them. Got back to the airport, returning the car took less than five minutes, getting through the airport took a little longer so we didn't have time for showers at the lounge. It was amazing all around, I would definitely recommend

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1530 on: May 24, 2017, 04:29:36 PM »
I also know how to look up things on trip advisor but what i was looking for is personal insight from a heimishe person who share similar interests,
 there are great ideas and helpful tips or itinerary that ppl posted on different areas like Luzern Wengen and yet haven't seen one on St moritz area, now being that there are so many hikes etc in the area and cant do all i was looking for some advice, but chas vishalom i didn't want to be matriach ppl like you who find it difficult.
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Don't worry about it. I don't really know so much about Switzerland which is why I wanted to make sure that you did your research because I want the people who help out here to keep on helping. A good idea would be to add to the wiki all the things to do that were discussed in every area.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1531 on: May 24, 2017, 06:46:50 PM »
Well, if you're going to Switzerland you're not going there for something you can do all over. I'm not so knowledgeable, but I'm assuming the more knowledgeable here would say to go to the Pilatus or Rigi near Lucerne.
1) What would be the best way to go/up down the mountain?
2) What would be the most economical way to go up/down the mountain?
3) How long (in time) and rigorous is the trek down by foot?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1532 on: May 24, 2017, 10:48:30 PM »
1) What would be the best way to go/up down the mountain?
2) What would be the most economical way to go up/down the mountain?
3) How long (in time) and rigorous is the trek down by foot?
No idea. Start here.  http://www.pilatus.ch/en

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1533 on: May 25, 2017, 01:15:16 AM »
No idea. Start here.  http://www.pilatus.ch/en
dude you gotta chill bro. No asked you or anyone to police this thread. No one needs you to make sure that people are reading the up thread prior to posting. Go somewhere else and pretend to be "helpful" there. You troll.

To the  the public perhaps someone that has already done my pilatus can chime in on
1) What would be the best way to go/up down the mountain?
2) What would be the most economical way to go up/down the mountain?
3) How long (in time) and rigorous is the trek down by foot?
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1534 on: May 25, 2017, 08:51:27 AM »
1) What would be the best way to go/up down the mountain?
2) What would be the most economical way to go up/down the mountain?
3) How long (in time) and rigorous is the trek down by foot?

It would be advisable to have hiking shoes/boots, walking stick, sufficient water, and be reasonably fit. For many trails, you could take the gondola up, and trek down by foot. Usually, each mountain has multiple different trails to the top, and trekking down is usually fast, and not strenuous as going up.

Also, be aware that at high altitudes, there is less oxygen in the air, and one can be prone to shortness of breath, and altitude sickness.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1535 on: May 25, 2017, 09:08:20 AM »
dude you gotta chill bro. No asked you or anyone to police this thread. No one needs you to make sure that people are reading the up thread prior to posting. Go somewhere else and pretend to be "helpful" there. You troll.

To the  the public perhaps someone that has already done my pilatus can chime in on
I'm trying to help you. You were responding to my response with a question, I answered that I don't know the answer and you could try reading about it there. Not sure why you got so agitated.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1536 on: May 25, 2017, 10:36:41 AM »
Yes, I highly recommend staying there!
Can you please elaborate. I am looking into staying in Bayis Bagova and would like to hear recommendations.
Thanks!

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1537 on: May 25, 2017, 11:59:07 AM »
Can you please elaborate. I am looking into staying in Bayis Bagova and would like to hear recommendations.
Thanks!

I stayed at Bayis Bagova over a decade ago, it was then in a different location though, right next to Zermatt,
and I had a very positive experience.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1538 on: May 25, 2017, 11:18:33 PM »
Trying to decide between flying RT from ZRH-VCE or taking the train. Seems like many people love the scenic view of the train ride. Anyone have personal experience if this is something I won't experience otherwise or if it's worth taking a flight and saving 6 hours?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1539 on: May 25, 2017, 11:25:40 PM »
Trying to decide between flying RT from ZRH-VCE or taking the train. Seems like many people love the scenic view of the train ride. Anyone have personal experience if this is something I won't experience otherwise or if it's worth taking a flight and saving 6 hours?

I have taken the train and would highly recommend this, it is a pretty nice ride, plane will take you a bit less then 6 hours considering to / from the airport.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1540 on: May 25, 2017, 11:35:00 PM »
I have taken the train and would highly recommend this, it is a pretty nice ride, plane will take you a bit less then 6 hours considering to / from the airport.
I will be landing in ZRH at 10am on Thursday morning and would like to spend shabbos in Venice. With a 1pm flight, I would land in VCE at 2 pm... with a train I would not arrive before 7pm.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1541 on: May 25, 2017, 11:38:14 PM »
I will be landing in ZRH at 10am on Thursday morning and would like to spend shabbos in Venice. With a 1pm flight, I would land in VCE at 2 pm... with a train I would not arrive before 7pm.

Friday go touring, when are you leaving VCE?.

You don't need more then 2 full days in VCE.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1542 on: May 25, 2017, 11:46:20 PM »
Friday go touring, when are you leaving VCE?.

You don't need more then 2 full days in VCE.
Flying would mean arriving in VCE at 2pm on Thursday and flying back to Zurich Sunday morning. If I take a train and first get in Thursday night, I'd leave Venice Sunday evening. (Flight back to JFK is Thursday morning from ZRH)

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1543 on: May 29, 2017, 05:05:00 PM »
i was told that there is some sort of day pass (maybe taggacardt or something) that allows unlimted travel on the trains or something.
anyone knows of anything of the sort?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1544 on: May 29, 2017, 05:30:09 PM »
i was told that there is some sort of day pass (maybe taggacardt or something) that allows unlimted travel on the trains or something.
anyone knows of anything of the sort?

Yes, it's called Tageskarte. There is two types, the regular one: https://www.sbb.ch/en/travelcards-and-tickets/tickets-for-switzerland/1-day-travelpass/1-day-travelpass-for-the-half-fare-travelcard.html

Plus there is a Gemeinde Tageskarte, but you have to be a registered resident to buy them, has to be booked well in advanced, and are specific to a date. Costs about 48CHF and you don't need a half-card (halbtax). There are no restrictions on who may use them, but again to buy them you have to be a local resident. http://www.tageskarte-gemeinde.ch/en-us/

Tageskarte means day ticket in German; Gemeinde means Commune / Municipality