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Zurich
HOTELS
-The Park Hyatt is fantastic and a 10 minute walk to shul.
Tram stop: Stockerstrasse

RESTAURANTS

Meat:

Olive Garden - Located inside he JCC
Tram stop: Bahnhof Enge


Milk/Parve:

Fein und Schein - cafe type of place; ambience lacking, but hey, food is food

Bagels and Co.  (Bederstrasse corner Klopstockstrasse 8002 Zürich) Tram Stop "Waffenplatzstrasse"

Books & Bagels - combination bagel shop and judaica store

Bakery:

ATTRACTIONS
-Walk around the lake area
-Bahnhofstrasse window shopping
-Take a train to Lucerne and buy the golden ticket, included a boat ride on Lake Lucerne, cogwheel train and tram. Then take bus back to Lucerne
-When you arrive in Lucerne you can go to the tourist office to see a live view from Mount Pilatus (Or you can check online). If it's cloudy skip the cogwheel train and just take a nice boatride and explore the town, ancient bridges, and walk on top of the old city fortress walls.




Options in the Alps

Arosa: Metropol Hotel - quaint little old hotel. Not very fancy - it's like honeymooning in your grandmother's house (HT: Mrs. Moishebatchy). The food is very basic, but delicious. Mikva on premises. If skiing is your thing, the have an agreement with one of the ski places (Härtner) not to charge Metropol customers for ski rentals over Shabbos.


Need a meal on shabbes, please PM me (Chuchem). I live 15 minute walk from the hyatt, close to chabad. Zürich has no eiruv!

Major Attractions
“Please edit the wiki to add more attractions”

Central Switzerland
-Lucerne, Pilatus Offers: Cogwheel, Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mini Zip-line and fun area
-Titlis Offers: Gondolas, Snow Tubing, Trutti Bikes, Ice Museum, Row Boating
-Brunni Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Stroll in Lake(!)

Jungfrau Region
-Jungfrau/jungfraujoch Click here for the Kosher hotel in Wengen / 360-degree panorama of Jungfraujoch-Top of Europe
-Grindelwald Offers: Gondolas, mega Zip-line, Trutti Bikes

Eastern Switzerland
-St. Moritz
Davos / Klosters
Arosa Click here for the Kosher Levins hotel

Southern Switzerland
-Zermatt - "Matterhorn"
-Saas-Fee Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mega Zip-line, Trotti Bikes, (Saas-Grund has Monster Trotteres) and on top of "Allalin" you can go Snow Tubing and Skiing even in the summer!
-Crans Montana You can email the Kosher hotel in Crans Montana Hotelmk@gmail.com  or call them at 0032485640498 or 003233011600


HalbTax Pass

A HalbTax pass (or Half Fare card) is a card designated for tourists and not for Swiss residents (officially...). The card gives you half price on all public transportation like buses, trains, trams, boats and also on "most" cable cars (attractions). There are basically 4 kinds.

1) An annual pass, the price is currently 175 francs. If i remember correctly it has a photo ID of the recipient, so double check before sharing it.
Click here for the annual pass

2) A 30 day pass, the price is currently 120 francs, it does not have a photo ID on it.
Click here or here for the 30 day pass

3) - Recommended for frequent traveling Swiss Travel Pass - you prepay a set amount per day and get unlimited for that day (plus "optional" for a fee, for 1 month including the days you chose, it is a HalbTax, even on the prepaid free days, it's only free for all transportation, on cable cars you only get half off). The price per day depends on how many days you prepay, for example if you prepay 8 days, the price per day will be about 53 francs, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 73 francs. If you are 25 y/o or younger, you can get the Youth Pass which is cheaper - If you prepay 8 days  the price per day will be about 40 francs a day, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 62 francs.
Click here (or here) for the prepaid pass

The card comes with a few days “you could chose your dates later”, officially when you want to use a certain day for the free day you should fill in on the pass that date, and when the first conductor comes he punches that day, but technically you can leave the date blank until the conductor comes, that way you have a chance if no conductor asks you for your card (happens quite often) you can save it for the next day :)

4) Swiss Transfer Ticket" This card costs 141 francs and is valid for 2 trips from and to the boarder or airport, for example you are traveling from the airport to Arosa and are not planning to go anywhere else or take any other transportation, with this card you will effectively pay 71 francs per way. This card is only valid for trips to and from the airport or boarder and no (long) stops allowed. Technically if you will travel one more day, the Swiss travel pass mentioned above will probably be cheaper.

Make sure to order your pass a few weeks before leaving, it takes about 1-3 weeks for the pass to arrive. But you can always buy it in the Airport, though you might have to wait in line and also if you want to buy the Youth pass (for 25 y/o or younger) they might ask you for proof...

There is also a family pass if you travel with a large family, I am not familiar with that.


Fast Baggage
There is a service via SBB, They deliver your luggage for you!! For example you are traveling from ZRH to Arosa, you don't want to be busy Shlepping around your luggage, You can check in your luggage in the airport and they (SBB) will deliver it to the train station in Arosa. This service is available "from and to" most train stations in Switzerland. You can ask about the Fast Baggage by any train station or read here or here

You can even buy a tag that you put on the luggage before checking in your luggage in any airport (i.e. JFK) and Rail Europe will take your luggage from the airplane in Switzerland and deliver it either to your hotel or to the train station in the city you're going to.  Read about Flight Luggage Here




PS. When doing research and getting to a website in German, just add /en (after .ch) to translate to English.
And Hey, Don't forget to write a TR ;)

Sample Itinerary for 9 hour stopover on Swiss flight from TLV to U.S. that lands at 810 and takes off around 5
Copied from @cholent:
Here it is: landed in zrh, crazy line for entering country but moved pretty quickly, about half an hour. Picked up sim in the airport. Rented car through Priceline from europecar. Drove to Titlis, stunning scenery along drive. Missed a turnoff because I couldn't get Waze to talk and I was trying to do some stuff online while we were driving, added half an hour to get there, but the stunning scenery made it worthwhile. Got there, parked, you pay at the entrance if you're going to park for more than an hour. Paid, took the cable car. Got off at there halfway station by mistake, gorgeous lake. Went back on and back up to the top. It was somewhat cloudy which was a pity. Suspension bridge was fun but no view because of the clouds. Took the ice flyer to the other peak, then went sledding down the hill, lots of fun. No tubing because there wasn't enough snow. We didn't have enough time for the ice cave because of the extra time driving there and we weren't sure where it was anyway. Made some new Israeli friends and took the cable car down with them. Got back to the airport, returning the car took less than five minutes, getting through the airport took a little longer so we didn't have time for showers at the lounge. It was amazing all around, I would definitely recommend

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1560 on: June 14, 2017, 07:21:13 PM »
is there any kosher hotel in the Jungfrau Region this year

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1561 on: June 14, 2017, 09:31:47 PM »

The kosher Hotel in Wengen has relocated to Villars this year.
We are also looking for kosher hotel/ minyan in Jungfrau area for mid July.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1562 on: June 15, 2017, 11:21:23 AM »
someone told me in the Jewish newspaper in Zurich there is a column of all the places in the alps that ppl are arranging Minyanim for example i heard about a minyan in Grindelwald  But i don't have the info if you can contact someone there i am sure you there re plenty of minyanim

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1563 on: June 18, 2017, 05:28:50 PM »
Does anyone happen to know if the Crown Plaza Zurich is a Shabbos-friendly  hotel, and if there are such hotels in the Jewish area? Also, if there is a seudah hosting gemach?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1564 on: June 19, 2017, 03:00:10 AM »
Does anyone happen to know if the Crown Plaza Zurich is a Shabbos-friendly  hotel, and if there are such hotels in the Jewish area? Also, if there is a seudah hosting gemach?

As far as Crown Plaza, you would have to call them and ask them if they have rooms without electronic keys.
Good options are Hotel Ascot, Four Points Sheraton, Hotel Neufeld, Hotel St. Georges.....  Ascot and Neufeld offer kosher breakfast.
Seudah hosting gemach? If you go to the various shuls, most like everybody will ask who you are and invite you.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1565 on: June 19, 2017, 03:04:29 AM »
Does anyone happen to know if the Crown Plaza Zurich is a Shabbos-friendly  hotel, and if there are such hotels in the Jewish area? Also, if there is a seudah hosting gemach?

Was there for 1 night. Felt like I was sleeping in closets. Rooms are extremely small
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1566 on: June 19, 2017, 03:21:18 AM »
Was there for 1 night. Felt like I was sleeping in closets. Rooms are extremely small

Not surprised, but before you book a hotel room, you should check how many square meters
the rooms are. But generally, people in Zürich live in small flats. The rents are a fortune, but
the tradeoff is that everything is walking distance. 

May I recommend Atlantis,  "The 95 rooms and suites range from 34 to 210 square meters, and most feature either one or two balconies, a bathtub and shower, a complimentary alcohol-free minibar, Dipiù amenities, and Samsung suite pad."

http://atlantisbygiardino.ch/en/hotel/
http://www.starwoodhotels.com/design/property/rooms/index.html?propertyID=63726


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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1567 on: June 19, 2017, 04:21:05 AM »
Any info on what sim to get for a week or less Switzerland trip?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1569 on: June 19, 2017, 10:54:32 AM »
http://prepaid-data-sim-card.wikia.com/wiki/Switzerland
http://www.prepaidgsm.net/en/switzerland.html

http://www.lycamobile.ch/en/
http://lebara.ch/
Lycamobile was great for me a few months ago. Bought it at the airport for 15 franc. 3gb LTE data and 500/minutes and text, calls to US for 20 cents a minute, came with 5 franc included.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1570 on: June 19, 2017, 01:26:19 PM »
http://prepaid-data-sim-card.wikia.com/wiki/Switzerland
http://www.prepaidgsm.net/en/switzerland.html

http://www.lycamobile.ch/en/
http://lebara.ch/
Lycamobile was great for me a few months ago. Bought it at the airport for 15 franc. 3gb LTE data and 500/minutes and text, calls to US for 20 cents a minute, came with 5 franc included.
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1571 on: June 19, 2017, 04:44:33 PM »
Anybody know how the Park Hyatt treats globalists?
With regards to upgrades and kosher breakfast.
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1572 on: June 19, 2017, 06:37:23 PM »
Anybody know how the Park Hyatt treats globalists?
With regards upgrades and kosher breakfast.

Park Hyatt does not provide kosher breakfasts.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1573 on: June 22, 2017, 11:53:46 AM »
anyone know how to get a cheap place to stay in davos for 4 bachurim august 2-16

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1574 on: June 25, 2017, 09:49:58 AM »
Anyone has experience staying near a kosher hotel in the summer and eating in the hotel for meals and Shabbos?