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Zurich
HOTELS
-The Park Hyatt is fantastic and a 10 minute walk to shul.
Tram stop: Stockerstrasse

RESTAURANTS

Meat:

Florentin - Located inside he JCC https://florentin.rest/
Tram stop: Bahnhof Enge

Grill Cave

Food truck. Check website for opening hours. Burgers, sandwiches, hot dogs etc.
https://www.thegrillcave.co/


Milk/Parve:

Babi's Bagels (Bederstrasse corner Klopstockstrasse 8002 Zürich) Tram Stop "Waffenplatzstrasse"

Bakery:
Ma'Adan Bakery
Manessestrasse/Schimmelstrasse
Has delicious pastries and also sells sandwiches, salads, and some sushi.

Butcher:
Metzgerei Kol Tuv

Can preorder for pickup.
Can also deliver throughout Switzerland by post.
See website for details.

https://www.koltuv.ch/en

ATTRACTIONS
-Walk around the lake area
-Bahnhofstrasse window shopping
-Take a train to Lucerne and buy the golden ticket, included a boat ride on Lake Lucerne, cogwheel train and tram. Then take bus back to Lucerne
-When you arrive in Lucerne you can go to the tourist office to see a live view from Mount Pilatus (Or you can check online). If it's cloudy skip the cogwheel train and just take a nice boatride and explore the town, ancient bridges, and walk on top of the old city fortress walls.




Options in the Alps

Arosa: Metropol Hotel - quaint little old hotel. Not very fancy - it's like honeymooning in your grandmother's house (HT: Mrs. Moishebatchy). The food is very basic, but delicious. Mikva on premises. If skiing is your thing, the have an agreement with one of the ski places (Härtner) not to charge Metropol customers for ski rentals over Shabbos.


Need a meal on shabbes, please PM me (Chuchem). I live 15 minute walk from the hyatt, close to chabad. Zürich has no eiruv!

Major Attractions
“Please edit the wiki to add more attractions”

Central Switzerland
-Lucerne, Pilatus Offers: Cogwheel, Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mini Zip-line and fun area
-Titlis Offers: Gondolas, Snow Tubing, Trutti Bikes, Ice Museum, Row Boating
-Brunni Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Stroll in Lake(!)

Jungfrau Region
-Jungfrau/jungfraujoch Click here for the Kosher hotel in Wengen / 360-degree panorama of Jungfraujoch-Top of Europe
-Grindelwald Offers: Gondolas, mega Zip-line, Trutti Bikes

Eastern Switzerland
-St. Moritz
Davos / Klosters
Arosa Click here for the Kosher Levins hotel

Southern Switzerland
-Zermatt - "Matterhorn"
-Saas-Fee Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mega Zip-line, Trotti Bikes, (Saas-Grund has Monster Trotteres) and on top of "Allalin" you can go Snow Tubing and Skiing even in the summer!
-Crans Montana You can email the Kosher hotel in Crans Montana Hotelmk@gmail.com  or call them at 0032485640498 or 003233011600


HalbTax Pass

A HalbTax pass (or Half Fare card) is a card designated for tourists and not for Swiss residents (officially...). The card gives you half price on all public transportation like buses, trains, trams, boats and also on "most" cable cars (attractions). There are basically 4 kinds.

1) An annual pass, the price is currently 175 francs. If i remember correctly it has a photo ID of the recipient, so double check before sharing it.
Click here for the annual pass

2) A 30 day pass, the price is currently 120 francs, it does not have a photo ID on it.
Click here or here for the 30 day pass

3) - Recommended for frequent traveling Swiss Travel Pass - you prepay a set amount per day and get unlimited for that day (plus "optional" for a fee, for 1 month including the days you chose, it is a HalbTax, even on the prepaid free days, it's only free for all transportation, on cable cars you only get half off). The price per day depends on how many days you prepay, for example if you prepay 8 days, the price per day will be about 53 francs, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 73 francs. If you are 25 y/o or younger, you can get the Youth Pass which is cheaper - If you prepay 8 days  the price per day will be about 40 francs a day, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 62 francs.
Click here (or here) for the prepaid pass

The card comes with a few days “you could chose your dates later”, officially when you want to use a certain day for the free day you should fill in on the pass that date, and when the first conductor comes he punches that day, but technically you can leave the date blank until the conductor comes, that way you have a chance if no conductor asks you for your card (happens quite often) you can save it for the next day :)

4) Swiss Transfer Ticket" This card costs 141 francs and is valid for 2 trips from and to the boarder or airport, for example you are traveling from the airport to Arosa and are not planning to go anywhere else or take any other transportation, with this card you will effectively pay 71 francs per way. This card is only valid for trips to and from the airport or boarder and no (long) stops allowed. Technically if you will travel one more day, the Swiss travel pass mentioned above will probably be cheaper.

Make sure to order your pass a few weeks before leaving, it takes about 1-3 weeks for the pass to arrive. But you can always buy it in the Airport, though you might have to wait in line and also if you want to buy the Youth pass (for 25 y/o or younger) they might ask you for proof...

There is also a family pass if you travel with a large family, I am not familiar with that.


Fast Baggage
There is a service via SBB, They deliver your luggage for you!! For example you are traveling from ZRH to Arosa, you don't want to be busy Shlepping around your luggage, You can check in your luggage in the airport and they (SBB) will deliver it to the train station in Arosa. This service is available "from and to" most train stations in Switzerland. You can ask about the Fast Baggage by any train station or read here or here

You can even buy a tag that you put on the luggage before checking in your luggage in any airport (i.e. JFK) and Rail Europe will take your luggage from the airplane in Switzerland and deliver it either to your hotel or to the train station in the city you're going to.  Read about Flight Luggage Here




PS. When doing research and getting to a website in German, just add /en (after .ch) to translate to English.
And Hey, Don't forget to write a TR ;)

Sample Itinerary for 9 hour stopover on Swiss flight from TLV to U.S. that lands at 810 and takes off around 5
Copied from @cholent:
Here it is: landed in zrh, crazy line for entering country but moved pretty quickly, about half an hour. Picked up sim in the airport. Rented car through Priceline from europecar. Drove to Titlis, stunning scenery along drive. Missed a turnoff because I couldn't get Waze to talk and I was trying to do some stuff online while we were driving, added half an hour to get there, but the stunning scenery made it worthwhile. Got there, parked, you pay at the entrance if you're going to park for more than an hour. Paid, took the cable car. Got off at there halfway station by mistake, gorgeous lake. Went back on and back up to the top. It was somewhat cloudy which was a pity. Suspension bridge was fun but no view because of the clouds. Took the ice flyer to the other peak, then went sledding down the hill, lots of fun. No tubing because there wasn't enough snow. We didn't have enough time for the ice cave because of the extra time driving there and we weren't sure where it was anyway. Made some new Israeli friends and took the cable car down with them. Got back to the airport, returning the car took less than five minutes, getting through the airport took a little longer so we didn't have time for showers at the lounge. It was amazing all around, I would definitely recommend

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1580 on: June 26, 2017, 06:10:16 AM »
Park Hyatt does not provide kosher breakfasts.
They do though might not be free
״וזה כלל גדול: שישנא אדם כל דבר שקר. וכל מה שיוסיף שנאה לדרכי השקר – יוסיף אהבה לתורה.״ - אורחות צדיקים

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1581 on: June 26, 2017, 08:00:58 AM »
Does anyone have experience staying at a non kosher hotel in Davos for shabbos? like for room keys or electric front doors? etc.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1582 on: June 26, 2017, 08:42:03 AM »
Does anyone have experience staying at a non kosher hotel in Davos for shabbos? like for room keys or electric front doors? etc.

you can always ask the front desk to open the door... 
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1583 on: June 27, 2017, 03:28:40 PM »
Anyone have experience skiing in Saas Fee as someone who has never went skiing before? Will be in Switzerland for 2 days in August and would love to do 1 day Titlis/Lucerne and 1 day skiing in Saas Fee. I tried reaching out to them asking if they have any beginners course, but haven't heard back in a few days and trying to finalize my itinerary.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1584 on: June 27, 2017, 04:41:42 PM »
Anyone in St. Moritz next Shabbos?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1585 on: June 27, 2017, 10:45:09 PM »
Anyone know of a minyan in Grindenwald area in MId July?
Anyone know of a shul/minyan in BERN?

Were looking for minyan closest to wengen area for Mid July .
 



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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1586 on: June 29, 2017, 08:47:28 AM »
you can always ask the front desk to open the door...
Actually its not always so. I had booked a hotel with Hotels.com And then called hotel to see if I can get manual keys spoke to everyone working there including the director himself who told me that they never had any Jewish people stay there (It's open 1 1/2 years) and gave me loads of attitude and told they don't give out keys and will not offer having someone open my door when i need. I told him that it would only be twice and I will stay most of the day in my room.
And this was a 5 star hotel in Davos.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1587 on: June 29, 2017, 11:36:15 AM »
Actually its not always so. I had booked a hotel with Hotels.com And then called hotel to see if I can get manual keys spoke to everyone working there including the director himself who told me that they never had any Jewish people stay there (It's open 1 1/2 years) and gave me loads of attitude and told they don't give out keys and will not offer having someone open my door when i need. I told him that it would only be twice and I will stay most of the day in my room.
And this was a 5 star hotel in Davos.
Lol. Try getting a Swissie to go out of protocol..

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1588 on: June 29, 2017, 12:29:31 PM »
I assume you all learnt the halachos of Amirah Lackum corect?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1589 on: July 03, 2017, 06:03:47 PM »
5 hour layover in ZRH.

What's the best thing to see in that time?
I remember when a coke was a nickel, and you could buy VRs in OD.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1590 on: July 03, 2017, 09:30:53 PM »
5 hour layover in ZRH.

What's the best thing to see in that time?

Uetliberg, is about an hour away. The Jewish neighborhood, is about 15-20 minutes away with a short train ride. Bahnhofstrasse, is a big street with lots of shopping, and there's a nice boat ride you could take from that area too, it's about 20 minutes from the Jewish neighborhood and airport.
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1591 on: July 04, 2017, 01:47:26 AM »
Anyone have experience skiing in Saas Fee as someone who has never went skiing before? Will be in Switzerland for 2 days in August and would love to do 1 day Titlis/Lucerne and 1 day skiing in Saas Fee. I tried reaching out to them asking if they have any beginners course, but haven't heard back in a few days and trying to finalize my itinerary.

Summer time is not really the season to be skiing in Switzerland. In Saas Fee, you have the Allalin Glacier, but it's high up at 3,600m and not the best place for beginners. Plus, there are lots of seracs and crevasses, so it's dangerous to go off the piste.  Yes, there are ski schools, but then you should invest a week, not one day.  Also, the ski areas are only opened from 7am till noon in the Summer times.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1592 on: July 04, 2017, 03:32:00 PM »
Any pizza near the community?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1593 on: July 04, 2017, 03:35:28 PM »
Summer time is not really the season to be skiing in Switzerland. In Saas Fee, you have the Allalin Glacier, but it's high up at 3,600m and not the best place for beginners. Plus, there are lots of seracs and crevasses, so it's dangerous to go off the piste.  Yes, there are ski schools, but then you should invest a week, not one day.  Also, the ski areas are only opened from 7am till noon in the Summer times.
Thanks! Figured we can't come to Switzerland and not ski - guess we'll need another winter trip!
We're doing Titlis on the first day. Is it worth the travel to Junfraujoch to spend 1 night and 1 day there? Or just stay in Lucerne and do Pilatus?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1594 on: July 04, 2017, 08:53:08 PM »
Thanks! Figured we can't come to Switzerland and not ski - guess we'll need another winter trip!
We're doing Titlis on the first day. Is it worth the travel to Junfraujoch to spend 1 night and 1 day there? Or just stay in Lucerne and do Pilatus?

It is worth going up to Jungfraujoch, however, you should only book on the day you are going, after you have checked the weather forecast and the webcams. Do not go unless you have verified that the weather is perfect and not cloudy and or rainy on top.  If it's cloudy up there...stay in your room and put a sheet over your head. You'll get the same effect for a lot less money.
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1595 on: July 05, 2017, 10:46:50 AM »
Hi folks just spent the last few days in St Moritz and heading back home late Thursday night with the train i have a free day pass so i can practically travel anywhere i was thinking about sending my bags directly to the airport and taking advantage of the free day. Wanted to kow if any one has a nice idea for a few hours in the direction of Zurich or a bit out of the way is also fine my flight is not until midnight.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1596 on: July 05, 2017, 04:02:52 PM »
Hi folks just spent the last few days in St Moritz and heading back home late Thursday night with the train i have a free day pass so i can practically travel anywhere i was thinking about sending my bags directly to the airport and taking advantage of the free day. Wanted to kow if any one has a nice idea for a few hours in the direction of Zurich or a bit out of the way is also fine my flight is not until midnight.


You can visit Guarda -- https://www.myswitzerland.com/en-us/guarda-schellenursli.html  Guarda is a very beautiful village, famous for its architecture.

Then visit Scuol, and then take bus to Tarrasp Castle.
You can also go see the Brusio viaduct:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brusio_spiral_viaduct

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1597 on: July 06, 2017, 02:32:12 AM »

You can visit Guarda -- https://www.myswitzerland.com/en-us/guarda-schellenursli.html  Guarda is a very beautiful village, famous for its architecture.

Then visit Scuol, and then take bus to Tarrasp Castle.
You can also go see the Brusio viaduct:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brusio_spiral_viaduct
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1598 on: July 06, 2017, 04:12:21 AM »
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1599 on: July 06, 2017, 04:37:48 AM »
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You forgot to mention the price for a slice, and if they really know how to make pizza.