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Zurich
HOTELS
-The Park Hyatt is fantastic and a 10 minute walk to shul.
Tram stop: Stockerstrasse

RESTAURANTS

Meat:

Florentin - Located inside he JCC https://florentin.rest/
Tram stop: Bahnhof Enge

Grill Cave

Food truck. Check website for opening hours. Burgers, sandwiches, hot dogs etc.
https://www.thegrillcave.co/


Milk/Parve:

Babi's Bagels (Bederstrasse corner Klopstockstrasse 8002 Zürich) Tram Stop "Waffenplatzstrasse"

Bakery:
Ma'Adan Bakery
Manessestrasse/Schimmelstrasse
Has delicious pastries and also sells sandwiches, salads, and some sushi.

Butcher:
Metzgerei Kol Tuv

Can preorder for pickup.
Can also deliver throughout Switzerland by post.
See website for details.

https://www.koltuv.ch/en

ATTRACTIONS
-Walk around the lake area
-Bahnhofstrasse window shopping
-Take a train to Lucerne and buy the golden ticket, included a boat ride on Lake Lucerne, cogwheel train and tram. Then take bus back to Lucerne
-When you arrive in Lucerne you can go to the tourist office to see a live view from Mount Pilatus (Or you can check online). If it's cloudy skip the cogwheel train and just take a nice boatride and explore the town, ancient bridges, and walk on top of the old city fortress walls.




Options in the Alps

Arosa: Metropol Hotel - quaint little old hotel. Not very fancy - it's like honeymooning in your grandmother's house (HT: Mrs. Moishebatchy). The food is very basic, but delicious. Mikva on premises. If skiing is your thing, the have an agreement with one of the ski places (Härtner) not to charge Metropol customers for ski rentals over Shabbos.


Need a meal on shabbes, please PM me (Chuchem). I live 15 minute walk from the hyatt, close to chabad. Zürich has no eiruv!

Major Attractions
“Please edit the wiki to add more attractions”

Central Switzerland
-Lucerne, Pilatus Offers: Cogwheel, Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mini Zip-line and fun area
-Titlis Offers: Gondolas, Snow Tubing, Trutti Bikes, Ice Museum, Row Boating
-Brunni Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Stroll in Lake(!)

Jungfrau Region
-Jungfrau/jungfraujoch Click here for the Kosher hotel in Wengen / 360-degree panorama of Jungfraujoch-Top of Europe
-Grindelwald Offers: Gondolas, mega Zip-line, Trutti Bikes

Eastern Switzerland
-St. Moritz
Davos / Klosters
Arosa Click here for the Kosher Levins hotel

Southern Switzerland
-Zermatt - "Matterhorn"
-Saas-Fee Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mega Zip-line, Trotti Bikes, (Saas-Grund has Monster Trotteres) and on top of "Allalin" you can go Snow Tubing and Skiing even in the summer!
-Crans Montana You can email the Kosher hotel in Crans Montana Hotelmk@gmail.com  or call them at 0032485640498 or 003233011600


HalbTax Pass

A HalbTax pass (or Half Fare card) is a card designated for tourists and not for Swiss residents (officially...). The card gives you half price on all public transportation like buses, trains, trams, boats and also on "most" cable cars (attractions). There are basically 4 kinds.

1) An annual pass, the price is currently 175 francs. If i remember correctly it has a photo ID of the recipient, so double check before sharing it.
Click here for the annual pass

2) A 30 day pass, the price is currently 120 francs, it does not have a photo ID on it.
Click here or here for the 30 day pass

3) - Recommended for frequent traveling Swiss Travel Pass - you prepay a set amount per day and get unlimited for that day (plus "optional" for a fee, for 1 month including the days you chose, it is a HalbTax, even on the prepaid free days, it's only free for all transportation, on cable cars you only get half off). The price per day depends on how many days you prepay, for example if you prepay 8 days, the price per day will be about 53 francs, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 73 francs. If you are 25 y/o or younger, you can get the Youth Pass which is cheaper - If you prepay 8 days  the price per day will be about 40 francs a day, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 62 francs.
Click here (or here) for the prepaid pass

The card comes with a few days “you could chose your dates later”, officially when you want to use a certain day for the free day you should fill in on the pass that date, and when the first conductor comes he punches that day, but technically you can leave the date blank until the conductor comes, that way you have a chance if no conductor asks you for your card (happens quite often) you can save it for the next day :)

4) Swiss Transfer Ticket" This card costs 141 francs and is valid for 2 trips from and to the boarder or airport, for example you are traveling from the airport to Arosa and are not planning to go anywhere else or take any other transportation, with this card you will effectively pay 71 francs per way. This card is only valid for trips to and from the airport or boarder and no (long) stops allowed. Technically if you will travel one more day, the Swiss travel pass mentioned above will probably be cheaper.

Make sure to order your pass a few weeks before leaving, it takes about 1-3 weeks for the pass to arrive. But you can always buy it in the Airport, though you might have to wait in line and also if you want to buy the Youth pass (for 25 y/o or younger) they might ask you for proof...

There is also a family pass if you travel with a large family, I am not familiar with that.


Fast Baggage
There is a service via SBB, They deliver your luggage for you!! For example you are traveling from ZRH to Arosa, you don't want to be busy Shlepping around your luggage, You can check in your luggage in the airport and they (SBB) will deliver it to the train station in Arosa. This service is available "from and to" most train stations in Switzerland. You can ask about the Fast Baggage by any train station or read here or here

You can even buy a tag that you put on the luggage before checking in your luggage in any airport (i.e. JFK) and Rail Europe will take your luggage from the airplane in Switzerland and deliver it either to your hotel or to the train station in the city you're going to.  Read about Flight Luggage Here




PS. When doing research and getting to a website in German, just add /en (after .ch) to translate to English.
And Hey, Don't forget to write a TR ;)

Sample Itinerary for 9 hour stopover on Swiss flight from TLV to U.S. that lands at 810 and takes off around 5
Copied from @cholent:
Here it is: landed in zrh, crazy line for entering country but moved pretty quickly, about half an hour. Picked up sim in the airport. Rented car through Priceline from europecar. Drove to Titlis, stunning scenery along drive. Missed a turnoff because I couldn't get Waze to talk and I was trying to do some stuff online while we were driving, added half an hour to get there, but the stunning scenery made it worthwhile. Got there, parked, you pay at the entrance if you're going to park for more than an hour. Paid, took the cable car. Got off at there halfway station by mistake, gorgeous lake. Went back on and back up to the top. It was somewhat cloudy which was a pity. Suspension bridge was fun but no view because of the clouds. Took the ice flyer to the other peak, then went sledding down the hill, lots of fun. No tubing because there wasn't enough snow. We didn't have enough time for the ice cave because of the extra time driving there and we weren't sure where it was anyway. Made some new Israeli friends and took the cable car down with them. Got back to the airport, returning the car took less than five minutes, getting through the airport took a little longer so we didn't have time for showers at the lounge. It was amazing all around, I would definitely recommend

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1880 on: December 17, 2017, 09:36:56 PM »
Try out Megeve France  it's a half hour from Geneva much nicer than this places http://www.kosherskiclub.com/

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1881 on: December 17, 2017, 11:25:27 PM »
Try out Megeve France  it's a half hour from Geneva much nicer than this places http://www.kosherskiclub.com/
You've been by all three?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1882 on: December 18, 2017, 01:43:30 AM »
Try out Megeve France  it's a half hour from Geneva much nicer than this places http://www.kosherskiclub.com/
Thanks, but we want to go in January

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1883 on: December 18, 2017, 11:34:18 AM »
I read thru like half of this thread....so sorry if this has been discussed before. Any info on the kosher hotel in crans Montana? Views comparable to st.moritz ? I’m there mainly for views as we have a small baby..how’s the hotel itself ? Believe me I researched a lot before I go and ask on the forum but couldn’t find much...thanks @chuchem

read my TR I was there 2 years ago .

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1884 on: December 19, 2017, 04:47:39 PM »
i have a 10 hr stopover in zrh next month. what is the closest mountain to zrh that has sledding / snow tubing or skiing?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1885 on: December 19, 2017, 04:49:57 PM »
i have a 10 hr stopover in zrh next month. what is the closest mountain to zrh that has sledding / snow tubing or skiing?
Um hello google ?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1886 on: December 19, 2017, 04:58:00 PM »
Um hello google ?
From what i found the closest mountain is Uetilberg.
I wanted to know peoples experience with any of these mountains and if there is any better options.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1887 on: December 19, 2017, 07:58:01 PM »
From what i found the closest mountain is Uetilberg.
I wanted to know peoples experience with any of these mountains and if there is any better options.
Not Uetliberg. It's a hill compared to the others. Read the recent posts here. Plenty of reports.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1888 on: December 20, 2017, 11:46:42 AM »
Not Uetliberg. It's a hill compared to the others. Read the recent posts here. Plenty of reports.
Read last few pages. Chulent's trip etc. Either Lucerne for Rigi or Pilatus, or Titlis.
If he has 11 hours why shouldn't he see some real mountains, and not just a small hill?

All the mountains you mentioned are at least 2 hr away while Uetilberg is about an hr away.
Is Uetilberg so small that its worth to travel an additional hr each way on such a short stopover?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1889 on: December 20, 2017, 03:31:01 PM »
All the mountains you mentioned are at least 2 hr away while Uetilberg is about an hr away.
Is Uetilberg so small that its worth to travel an additional hr each way on such a short stopover?
It took me a lot less time to get Titlis, iirc.

IMO, the view does not compare at all. Pilatus is a lot closer. Was never there, though.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1890 on: December 20, 2017, 03:35:11 PM »
Utliberg has the advantage of being connected to the light rail. Obviously not the best place to go, but I went myself on a 12 hr stopover by myself because I wasn't going to rent a car etc. Still one of the coolest views I've seen.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1891 on: December 20, 2017, 03:48:15 PM »
Utliberg has the advantage of being connected to the light rail. Obviously not the best place to go, but I went myself on a 12 hr stopover by myself because I wasn't going to rent a car etc. Still one of the coolest views I've seen.
What's the difference? The trains are great all over. Just check the schedule to see if it works.

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« Reply #1892 on: December 21, 2017, 01:12:30 AM »
Pay your fines in Switzerland, as they will detain you at airport next time and will cost much more and the chances of you missing your flight because of that is also there,,,,

So I just realized that there are two different license plate numbers on the two fines. Obviously they can't both be me, but I have no clue which one (if either) is. Any idea as to how I can figure this out? And I only realized after paying one fine.
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1893 on: December 21, 2017, 06:38:04 AM »
So I just realized that there are two different license plate numbers on the two fines. Obviously they can't both be me, but I have no clue which one (if either) is. Any idea as to how I can figure this out? And I only realized after paying one fine.
how did you get a fine that wasnt supposed to be yours? they made a mistake?
the license plate number is on your contract. if you threw it out, you can ask them to email you a copy.
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1894 on: December 24, 2017, 05:34:52 PM »
Anyone here that ski'd in Arosa know of any discounts if I book rentals / buy lift tickets beforehand? Feel like I remember seeing that someone bought some sort of package but can't seem to find it.

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« Reply #1895 on: January 03, 2018, 12:14:55 PM »
Recommended hotels in Zurich?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #1896 on: January 03, 2018, 02:42:04 PM »
Recommended hotels in Zurich?
Sheraton Zurich Hotel only 12000 spg points for 1 night
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« Reply #1897 on: January 03, 2018, 03:39:13 PM »
Recommended hotels in Zurich?
Park Hyatt is the 3rd nicest hotel in town and bookable with certificates traded here
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« Reply #1898 on: January 03, 2018, 03:44:34 PM »
Park Hyatt is the 3rd nicest hotel in town and bookable with certificates traded here

And #1 and #2 are?

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« Reply #1899 on: January 03, 2018, 04:01:22 PM »
And #1 and #2 are?
Baur Au Lac and Dolder Grand
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